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Tilapas 11-15-2012 12:47 PM

MC999 on multiple attempts for a stealth account.
 
I read the stealth guide but I'm missing something..

I'm using entirely different computers, new IP address, ALL new info.
Fully verified paypal.
My stealth paypal accounts are always fine but my ebay accounts always get MC999 suspensions within 24 hours of listing 1-2items.

""Thanks for selling on eBay. It's important that we speak with you about recent activity on your account. Your listings have been removed until we can talk with you. ""

Should I just try calling them?
Sick of wasting new vanilla visa's on stealth accounts that just go to crap so soon...don't understand it.

Johnson1 11-15-2012 06:55 PM

If your accounts are always being suspended then it would not hurt to see what eBay has to say. You have Nothing to lose.

MM78 11-15-2012 07:31 PM

Are you selling expensive, VERO, virtual goods?

Tilapas 11-16-2012 12:29 AM

Nope, no vero, nothing expensive, very cheap basic items.
Only listed 2 items on each account, both banned.
The type of items I listed I am 100% sure they are fine.
Buy it now items for under $15

IP address is not the problem either, I'm tethering off my phone and keeping track of all IP's used.
I'm EXTREMELY confused about this.

The paypal accounts are fine and up and running, even got money put into them via other means and are fine.
It's only the ebay accounts that aren't working out for me.

Same exact info on both paypal and ebay too, I made 100% sure of it.

NGALO1983 11-16-2012 12:40 AM

Thats what happen to me the first time too. Paypal was verified but Ebay deleted my ish within 5 minutes of selling. I got five new ebay and paypal up and running. I learned to wait a couple of days about 3-4 days before I list my first item for sale.

Tilapas 11-16-2012 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGALO1983 (Post 393827)
Thats what happen to me the first time too. Paypal was verified but Ebay deleted my ish within 5 minutes of selling. I got five new ebay and paypal up and running. I learned to wait a couple of days about 3-4 days before I list my first item for sale.

I waited 3days before switching each account to seller accounts.
Is this what you mean or do I need to wait 3-4days after turning into seller account before listing any items?

Seems awfully strange to me that ebay would ban somebody simply for listing an after changing to a seller account. Isnt' that the entire reason to get a seller account? If I wasn't going to sell 1 item right away then I'd prolly just convert to a seller account later when I had an item to list.

So confused, this is literally driving my brain bonkers, hehe.

GreenBean 11-16-2012 02:57 AM

Belated welcome to the forum. :)

I find it easier to not think of the MC0999 as a ban.

It's more a notice from ebay to confirm details of an account usually after listing items.

I must add it does differ with each account.

For the details of your stealth account what do you do?

Maybe we can run thro' everything to help resolve these issues.

:pop2:

Tilapas 11-16-2012 02:51 PM

Paypal account's are both totally solid, up and running, and one's received over $400 into it already with no issues, so I'm going to forgoe the whole paypal part unless you feel it's important.

I get a new IP off my phone, I check it with whatismyip.com and make sure it's not one I've already used.

Paypal's were fully verified with both bank account and vanilla visa cards, both completely fresh info, never used before.
Used entirely different computer that has literally never been used for ebay or paypal before, pretty much a fresh windows 7 format.
Used CCleaner before creating accounts, never after, so I kept the ebay/paypal cookies.
Created ebay account with exact same info as paypal.
Linked paypal to ebay account.
Waited 3 days before changing to seller account.
Used a google voice number that was never used with any previous account to confirm seller account, confirmed fine as far as I know.
Listed 2 items, buy it now items for under $15.
Very basic household items.
No vero or anything like that.
First one got the mc999 in about 2 hours, with fees credited back to the account.
Second one got the mc999 about 24 hours after listing the items with fees credited back to the account.

Did I miss anything?
Is it simply because I listed in the first hour of converting into a seller account? I read a post where you said people were reporting problems due to that but that just wouldn't make sense to me.

Please, if I missed any part of the process or if you have further questions, just ask.
I really want to figure this out.
I am very computer savvy and I know all about this kind of stuff, I don't understand what I am doing wrong.

GreenBean 11-16-2012 05:00 PM

Could you do a screenshot of the mc0999, please?

um, one thing that stuck out was 'iphone'.

Is the ebay app downloaded? That has been reported as a means of linking.

The other angle is name & address. 'concrete' info or pulled out of the hat?

:juggle:

NGALO1983 11-16-2012 05:01 PM

Im different from you but as GreanBean said each account is different.

Normally, I convert to a seller account first day then wait 3-4 days later to sale. It works for me.
What about flash? Did you open an e-mail that is connected to another Ebay then the one you created?

They can track you through there which was a mistake I made before.

Tilapas 11-16-2012 05:30 PM

Addresses were both real addresses, not made up.
Never said Iphone, I said phone, I tether off my rooted android phone via wireless tether.
I am doing it off actual computers though.
I own 3 computers, so I am using a different one for each account.
Nope, not clicked a single email from them.
I am aware they can track you through that.

As for the Mc999, here is exactly what it says, a copy and paste.

MC999 Your eBay account is restricted - *snipped name



Dear *snipped name* (snipped name),

Thanks for selling on eBay. It's important that we speak with you about recent activity on your account. Your listings have been removed until we can talk with you.

To prevent your account from being closed, please contact us within the next 48 hours using this link:
http://contact.ebay.com*snipped rest of link*

Note: You may be asked to sign in. You can always sign in from the eBay home page before clicking the link above.

We appreciate your help verifying your account as quickly as possible and welcome you as a member of our community.

Thanks,

eBay

Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.


So you guys are just as confused as me then?
Maybe I'll try making a new one and waiting 3-4 days before listing an item instead of 3-4 days before turning it into a seller account.
It's literally the only thing I can possibly think of.

TurtleCove 11-16-2012 06:32 PM

I really think you're wasting your time, waiting to convert to a sellers account, or even waiting to sell on a new sellers account. Tens of thousands of people create new sellers account, and list within the first hour of such creation.

I'm as lost as you are dude.

I don't know how sophisticated EB is getting, but are they interrogating information within the headers of your auction photo's? Are you using the same photo's, as from a banned account?

BigCJ 11-16-2012 06:53 PM

You need to list only 1 item and it helps to wait 30 days to start selling. I know some people can list right away and get away with it, but with the holidays, I feel that ebay is vamping up security. :noidea:

It also might have something to do with the new ebay layout as to why people are having issues? I know when I use the new format, and list right away, I get the MC of doom quicker than the old format.

Tilapas 11-16-2012 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TurtleCove (Post 394029)
I really think you're wasting your time, waiting to convert to a sellers account, or even waiting to sell on a new sellers account. Tens of thousands of people create new sellers account, and list within the first hour of such creation.

I'm as lost as you are dude.

I don't know how sophisticated EB is getting, but are they interrogating information within the headers of your auction photo's? Are you using the same photo's, as from a banned account?

Nope, completely different items altogether.
I still sell on my main account.
I've never been banned on ebay before, just paypal.

Packattack12 11-17-2012 06:54 PM

Call them. They just want to talk about your plans to sell and 'give you a little advice'...I've got this a few times and called them and they lifted the restriction and I was good to go after. Hope this helps.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Tilapas (Post 394008)
Addresses were both real addresses, not made up.
Never said Iphone, I said phone, I tether off my rooted android phone via wireless tether.
I am doing it off actual computers though.
I own 3 computers, so I am using a different one for each account.
Nope, not clicked a single email from them.
I am aware they can track you through that.

As for the Mc999, here is exactly what it says, a copy and paste.

MC999 Your eBay account is restricted - *snipped name



Dear *snipped name* (snipped name),

Thanks for selling on eBay. It's important that we speak with you about recent activity on your account. Your listings have been removed until we can talk with you.

To prevent your account from being closed, please contact us within the next 48 hours using this link:
http://contact.ebay.com*snipped rest of link*

Note: You may be asked to sign in. You can always sign in from the eBay home page before clicking the link above.

We appreciate your help verifying your account as quickly as possible and welcome you as a member of our community.

Thanks,

eBay

Please don't reply to this message. It was sent from an address that doesn't accept incoming email.


So you guys are just as confused as me then?
Maybe I'll try making a new one and waiting 3-4 days before listing an item instead of 3-4 days before turning it into a seller account.
It's literally the only thing I can possibly think of.


rsot 11-18-2012 09:32 AM

I would agree on calling them and being professional on the phone

octour 11-28-2012 08:21 AM

Have you made any purchases before converting it to a seller account? Buying a digital product to your email and a physical product to the address on record is something I do as a precaution. Build up your e by browsing history for 30 days and buy a few (less than $1) things for about a month, then convert it.

Maybe sell some used crap from around the house first?

Dan32 04-02-2013 04:49 PM

Just got this MC999 on one of my new stealth accounts.

Only on one of them for whatever that's worth...

Brand new account, waited about 4 days before I listed. Listed 3 low risk items, the next day they were all taken down, and I had an MC999 in my messages. Asking to call them within 48hrs to avoid account being closed.

Should I abandon the account, or call them up and see what they have to say?

After looking through other threads, it seems as though I shouldn't *67 block my number, so should i use spoofcard.com or something similar to make the caller ID appear as the number I used on the account?

Thanks for the help!

turkeyhunt 04-02-2013 08:15 PM

I would call. What do you have to lose? If you don't call, it will be suspended, and if you do call you have a chance to save it

Also, why don't you have active phone number, especially since you just created the account?

vogeltron 04-06-2013 03:02 AM

Personally, I only open up buying accounts to start. I purchase cheap items for about two months to get some buying feedback. Then I change my account to a seller account. Always start out selling lower risk auctions. Usually household stuff. Have yet to have a problem. The thing about my system is I am constantly planning for the future. I am getting account prepped months in advance. The days of registering an account with eBay and selling the same day are over. Also about once a year I register multiple buying accounts. They just sit there for years before I do anything with them. I have some from 08 and 09 I am just starting to go through the process. If you are serious about stealth you always have to be one step ahead of whatever might happen to you. Like anything in life preparation and an understanding of how eBay asses risk is key to staying on eBay/PayPal for the long haul.

tkt234 04-07-2013 03:47 AM

I think you need to wait about 5 days. I personally have been creating new ebay and paypal accounts in my city with no problems(I wait 5 days and then start to sell items with new accounts). But I have gotten suspended also. But most of the times all goes ok. I have used free wifi area IPs and those are just ok. I have used my same and old laptop all the time(I just make a new user under Windows XP(all the names and details are different of course)). So I cannot understand how they link you. I have been linked by almost the same items. Problem is that once I have used that free wifi area IP, then I cannot use it any more for Ebay.

newjerseymax 04-07-2013 01:59 PM

I wait at least 90 days.... Within those 90 days I buy about 4 items a month...

I say wait til you have at least 10 feedback imo

rsot 04-08-2013 08:58 PM

I aim for 30 myself - works decently.

GreenBean 04-09-2013 05:23 AM

Minimum of 30 on mine.

Prefer 'dressings' on the account(s)

:juggle:

a.v.limited 04-12-2013 04:07 AM

are you using paypal email addresses you have used before maybe

vogeltron 04-13-2013 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by newjerseymax (Post 438119)
I wait at least 90 days.... Within those 90 days I buy about 4 items a month...

I say wait til you have at least 10 feedback imo

Solid advice. I also agree with greenbeam. The more history on eBay buying items and time before registering as a seller the better. eBay is hyper sensitive now. It is like taking someone out on a date, you have to go through all the I am not an ax murder blah blah to get a reputation and build trust with them before things can begin to get serious. To be honest every account is a relationship with eBay like it or not. The more feedback you get and the better DSR's, higher sales volume. All that plays into how eBay/PayPal treats your accounts. eBay is not a fly by one night stand anymore. Study the eBay Stealth if you haven't already. You have to do your work to get on and stay on.

Dmshark25 04-13-2013 11:29 AM

I have 20 accounts and sell right away and each first listing gets taken down and than I call. They just want to talk to you ask if u have products in ur posession and want u to basically repeat back all ur stealth info and than they reinstate ur account, they say u have done nothing wrong they just do this with all new sellers. So relax they reinstated all 20 of my accounts just call within 48 hrs I think

danshan 04-13-2013 11:33 AM

yep I do it every day no tough questions nothing weird

steathyfan111 04-13-2013 03:31 PM

dmshark & danshan


i too have had some recent success with my mc999s.

have you ever voluntarily called? i have been doing this recently and it seems to hold off the mc999. just wondering on some otherr thoughts.


also what do you say when they want to id verify you? you havnt lived in the country for a year?

steathyfan111 04-13-2013 08:43 PM

MC999 Verify FIRST
 
i just want to share that i have had a little recent success calling and having ebay help me list my first item. this would seem to stop the mc999 for the first few items. anyone have the same experience?

tkt234 04-14-2013 07:44 AM

no you never call them like that, don't let them know you exist, they can suspend you or limit you right away if they find something linked.
I wouldn't do that, because better they don't know for some days that your account is there. If you make a new ebay account then it will take time for them to see that you are selling some items there(before you have to wait 4-5 days) and then you can list.

tkt234 04-14-2013 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 440008)
I have 20 accounts and sell right away and each first listing gets taken down and than I call. They just want to talk to you ask if u have products in ur posession and want u to basically repeat back all ur stealth info and than they reinstate ur account, they say u have done nothing wrong they just do this with all new sellers. So relax they reinstated all 20 of my accounts just call within 48 hrs I think

creating way too many accounts won't help
they link you by the same products or "almost same prodcuts"
I myself stopped doing a lot of accounts and now haven't gotten suspended for a while. The key here is to create the low # of accounts in 1 week(like 1 or 2)

Dmshark25 04-14-2013 09:02 AM

I started to call when I noticed every account was going down after that first listing , I figured maybe I could call and ask them to help me set up the listing acting like a new member so they would and ask all my info but a day or so later same thing everything down I'd have to call up and Verify, so I stopped calling before and now just wait until they take the listing down , I just did another call last night for my 21 account so don't worry , as long as u use stealth info they won't find a real question in there database and ur good to go

Dmshark25 04-14-2013 09:06 AM

And tkt234 is right I made all my accounts over a period of 6 months , don't make them all in a week, and they are all good now and aging

GreenBean 04-14-2013 09:42 AM

:faint: Please stop making an urban myth of it being a wise idea to call into ebay on a new account.

This is not sensible at all.

Ensure you read the forum and find out the repercussions of contacting ebay.

AVOID this dangerous practice

:nono:

Sandy D 04-14-2013 03:01 PM

Browsing, watching, buying always helps a new account.

rickymen 04-14-2013 04:36 PM

try this, activate your account as a seller account by listing your first item...end the item early, then buy a couple items to get some feedback...about a week or 2 later, try listing an item or 2 and see if this happens to you again! their auto system is designed to take down accounts that are new and try to list without feedback...it could be the ip's your using are somehow connected to some other account somewhere in the world which is why their system is attacking you...it happened to me...luckily for me, i still have my top rated stealth account...keeping my fingers crossed!

steathyfan111 04-14-2013 11:42 PM

@dmshark.

at the end of the process. when they cant find stealth info what do they say? verify your phone number ?

GreenBean 04-15-2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steathyfan111 (Post 440390)
@dmshark.

at the end of the process. when they cant find stealth info what do they say? verify your phone number ?

They say supply ID. The seller got sprung becasue of not being able to satisfy ebay's conditions to sell.

A verified phone number proves zilch.

:typing:

GreenBean 04-15-2013 01:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rickymen (Post 440304)
try this, activate your account as a seller account by listing your first item...end the item early, then buy a couple items to get some feedback...about a week or 2 later, try listing an item or 2 and see if this happens to you again! keeping my fingers crossed!

You do know that ebay flags accounts that cancel listings?

Again, this is a risky method.

Ideally, sensibly, a new account should be used to avoid being flagged by ebay.

Not rocket science.

:juggle:


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