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Zak412134 01-04-2013 01:37 AM

Has anyone found success with stealth?
 
I've recently been banned from eBay, and I've contacted them for them to just fob me off. I'm studying the stealth guide at the moment but just wanted to see if anyone could share any successful stealth experiences.

By successful stealth experience I mean businesses that got back on eBay selling volume.

Zak.

mercurial333 01-04-2013 01:42 AM

Let the boasting begin.

Check the second sticky in the Subscriber section xD

turboman 01-04-2013 04:00 AM

hehe are you kidding me

we wouldnt be here other wise mate

yes we came here as we got banned or other

i kept on trying to stealth myself... failed accounts over and over and over

i got the book and have started earning money again

my circumstances found me out of work, banned from ebay and almost broke, almost lost my home car and everything

once i was earning again i could creep back up the ladder

have lost stealth accounts along the way but is only down to my own faults slip up and errors

it can be a long road....but one well worth the trip

some paitence and you can be back on track

you will want to rant and rave... and it may get a little frustrating if you come accross a difficult hurdle... but dont forget we have all been in the same boat at some point

and dont forget now your in stealth mode, dont be posting any personal info, your name or anything like that, if you have to post about a situation you find yourself in keep it business info based only no personal info

you should do ok... and dont get cocky, if you have the book read it, dont think thats it aww that easy enough... read it again, not everything in the book will apply to you if you uk but its still an education... then just when you think you have it sorted read it again LOL

you will more than likely always need to look back on

and dont think now your going stealth everything will just fall into place and be cool
you still have to operate in a 100% proper manner... mess up getting limitations, negatives, warnings and poof your gone

1st things 1st best thing you could have done is get the book
get reading, make notes, think it through
read it again and again

good luck and if you get stuck... you can rest assured someone will have already asked the question your about to... search and read other peoples input here, its very educational just reading other members issues and how they are resolved or not
and ask the members for help

MM78 01-04-2013 04:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407119)
I've recently been banned from eBay, and I've contacted them for them to just fob me off. I'm studying the stealth guide at the moment but just wanted to see if anyone could share any successful stealth experiences.

By successful stealth experience I mean businesses that got back on eBay selling volume.

Zak.

If everyone that was successful with Stealth punched you...you would be dead! :fight:

derbydave 01-04-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mercurial333 (Post 407120)
Let the boasting begin.

I've had 6-8 accounts shut down over the last 2 or so months

GreenBean 01-04-2013 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407119)
I've recently been banned from eBay, and I've contacted them for them to just fob me off. I'm studying the stealth guide at the moment but just wanted to see if anyone could share any successful stealth experiences.

By successful stealth experience I mean businesses that got back on eBay selling volume.

Zak.

For sure. We have users here who have gained power-seller status & TRS.
This is not just in the USA but also UK & Australia. Others run multiple accounts

Look at it this way, Zak. If you can grasp the concepts, apply them & operate correctly, you could achieve whatever you want.

It's not easy. It is hard work. But it's such a great kick in the face of ebay to earn that PS badge or TRS badge.
It's as good as selling on an account & slowly but surely & getting more feedback thus proving to yourself you deserve being an ebay seller.
:pop2:

NoneOther 01-04-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derbydave (Post 407155)
I've had 6-8 accounts shut down over the last 2 or so months

Then you need to look seriously at your business model or selling practices. :help:

derbydave 01-04-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 407231)
Then you need to look seriously at your business model or selling practices. :help:

nothing to do with any of that. ended up in hospital for 4 weeks, people buying stuff and not getting their items, so accounts were all shut down along with the paypal accounts. i didn't profit from it either. i presume they all got their money back, i haven't touched the accounts since i came out of hospital

slim jim 01-04-2013 11:12 AM

there is nothing but success that can be found here HOWEVER it is very important to read first. I would suggest reading around for a month, soaking up all the info and then doing your thing. I bought my first 2 accounts, now I make them on my own. There is nothing worse than buying/creating an account and then realizing you made a stupid mistake to get it shut down. Research, research, research!

bruceuk 01-04-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407119)
I've recently been banned from eBay, and I've contacted them for them to just fob me off. I'm studying the stealth guide at the moment but just wanted to see if anyone could share any successful stealth experiences.

By successful stealth experience I mean businesses that got back on eBay selling volume.

Zak.

Stealth to me isnt just about selling volume as a sign of success.
Its about underwriting your income.
I would far prefer 10 accounts generating £1k a month than 1 account generating £10k a month as the risk is far less if one goes down and will not effect your livelyhood as it does when your first main account gets taken away from you.
Stealth is protection from this pure and simple.

NoneOther 01-04-2013 12:30 PM

Now there's a man who understands stealth :thumb:

Zak412134 01-04-2013 01:05 PM

Thanks for all the replies guys that's exactly what I was after.

As I mentioned in another thread I have another two accounts - both will have been linked but I haven't been restricted yet. However with one of these accounts its due to go below standard 20th Jan. Once it's below standard I won't be able to close this account so is it worth closing it myself or do I let ebay ban me?

Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2

NoneOther 01-04-2013 01:44 PM

Never ever close accounts yourself, always leave that to e/b and p/p.

Old accounts are worth hanging on to, given time to mature/mend they can be revived successfully, with due care.

bruceuk 01-04-2013 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 407248)
Now there's a man who understands stealth :thumb:

Thanks NONE.
And yet i still learn something new every day .
When that stops i may consider myself educated in the art of stealth.

NoneOther 01-04-2013 03:05 PM

If you get to the stage where you don't learn something new stealth related every day then you will have become complacent about it and will come undone sooner rather than later.

The game changes all the time and only those on top of it will continue to avoid the pitfalls.

Education never stops

Zak412134 01-04-2013 04:00 PM

OK I don't want to spam the forum with new topics for every question so heres another one:

With regards to the address the book recommends either using a family / freinds address, renting an address, or creating a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address that belongs to a big box store like ASDA.

My question is I've only got a couple of addresses I can get access to that belong to family members, and I can't find any company which will let me rent an address for a decent price.

So in order to get the 5 / 10 / 15 stealth accounts running as recommended I would have to use the ASDA addresses, but I won't have access to these obviously so when eBay send me a letter with a code through the post to increase my limit I won't have this available - what are my options at this stage?

Zak.

mercurial333 01-04-2013 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derbydave (Post 407155)
I've had 6-8 accounts shut down over the last 2 or so months

That's not boasting, and certainly no success story :)

NoneOther 01-04-2013 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407296)
OK I don't want to spam the forum with new topics for every question so heres another one:

With regards to the address the book recommends either using a family / freinds address, renting an address, or creating a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address that belongs to a big box store like ASDA.

My question is I've only got a couple of addresses I can get access to that belong to family members, and I can't find any company which will let me rent an address for a decent price.

So in order to get the 5 / 10 / 15 stealth accounts running as recommended I would have to use the ASDA addresses, but I won't have access to these obviously so when eBay send me a letter with a code through the post to increase my limit I won't have this available - what are my options at this stage?

Zak.

Apply some lateral thinking, there are many alternative options available.

Zak412134 01-04-2013 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 407310)
Apply some lateral thinking, there are many alternative options available.

OK I'll go with it just because the stealth book tells me to. So now my official address corresponds with a McDonalds.

GreenBean 01-04-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407336)
OK I'll go with it just because the stealth book tells me to. So now my official address corresponds with a McDonalds.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Yes, this is in the book.

Please bear in mind the book was written some time ago.

Users on the forum have found it more expedient to have access to a real address. This is what NoneOther meant by thinking laterally.

If your account was not stealth, I am sure you would have access to your address? The fact the account is stealth is even more reason to be as real as possible to the eyes of ebay/paypal.
Do you agree?

GreenBean 01-04-2013 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407296)
So in order to get the 5 / 10 / 15 stealth accounts running as recommended I would have to use the ASDA addresses, but I won't have access to these obviously so when eBay send me a letter with a code through the post to increase my limit I won't have this available - what are my options at this stage?

Zak.

To decide at this stage of your stealthing to run numerous accounts is commendable.

It may be more expedient to start with say one or at most 2 accounts. That way you can factor in costs of having rental addresses. Doing that would allow you to find the many available addresses suitable for usage.

What have you done about returns of items? Have you considered that?
At this point, you are tweaking the plan to go on to sell well.
:pop2:

Zak412134 01-04-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 407339)
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Yes, this is in the book.

Please bear in mind the book was written some time ago.

Users on the forum have found it more expedient to have access to a real address. This is what NoneOther meant by thinking laterally.

If your account was not stealth, I am sure you would have access to your address? The fact the account is stealth is even more reason to be as real as possible to the eyes of ebay/paypal.
Do you agree?

Thanks for clarifying that. I was just ordering a pre-paid card registered to Mcdonalds address. I saw your message just before confirming the payment.

Yeah my account was not stealth, and I obviously have access to my home address - so from what I understand you're telling me to register the first account at my home address?

Zak.

Zak412134 01-04-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 407341)
To decide at this stage of your stealthing to run numerous accounts is commendable.

It may be more expedient to start with say one or at most 2 accounts. That way you can factor in costs of having rental addresses. Doing that would allow you to find the many available addresses suitable for usage.

What have you done about returns of items? Have you considered that?
At this point, you are tweaking the plan to go on to sell well.
:pop2:

Yeah I've pretty much decided that I'd need several accounts - the items I sell offer low profit margins but I was after a high volume strategy. This was the best way to go about it as when eBay evaluated me as below standard had I made a few more transactions the % aspect would have been fine.

Zak412134 01-04-2013 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 407341)
What have you done about returns of items? Have you considered that?
At this point, you are tweaking the plan to go on to sell well.
:pop2:

With regards to returns, our business account with Royal Mail has a sticker with a unique ID that reflects my account called a pre paid impression. It also states the return address. So if there are any problems with the customer (e.g. address is incomplete, or they're not in to sign for a parcel) they'll return it to me directly.

I have to say though, I understand I'm new to this game but between the stealth book and the forums I've spent hours and I keep getting conflicting advice and I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing.

If the returns was the only problem with using an address I have no access to then that's not really a problem. Having said that I've got another thread open in another window which advises not to use relatives addresses even though this is the best option according to the book. But as far as I can tell eBay will mail me a code that is used to increase my selling limits - if I don't have access to that how can I continue with stealth?

In the grand scheme of things here's where I am:

- I already know the name I would like to use.
- My IP changes each time I connect to the Internet
- I have created a new user on my laptop for stealth purposes
- I have a bank account that has never been used with eBay / Paypal

What I've got left to do though is to determain the best way to get an address - use an address I don't have access to or use a friends address which I have access to. With regards to the phone number I have several mobile numbers that I never use. I'm not sure if I can use these or if a landline is definately required.

Sandy D 01-05-2013 03:12 AM

Going from losing our jobs within a month of each other, using up our 401k and savings to pay the bills because unemployment ran out and for the first time in our lives with young kids we wonder if the economy would rebound so we could gain all we worked for back.

To

Living in a 4 bdr 3 bath caged swimming pool and lanai home, renting a large warehouse and several storage units to store stock, driving a new SUV, being able to do what we want and when we want it and regained our 401k money and added then some I would say hell yes stealth has been a major success for me and my family and then some.

It takes the will to survive, lots of hours of work, effort, setting goals, spending 12-18 hours a day for more then a year learning stealth then anyone with this in mind will be successful.

It wont be handled to you, you have to earn it and it will come.

I dont take any of it for granted, I am working harder now then ever before building and building for the future.

vxmotorsport 01-05-2013 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407336)
So now my official address corresponds with a McDonalds.



:dance: :dance: :dance:

This really made me chuckle!

Make sure you have a good read of the forums buddy!

Roscoe 01-05-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zak412134 (Post 407344)
Yeah I've pretty much decided that I'd need several accounts - the items I sell offer low profit margins but I was after a high volume strategy. This was the best way to go about it as when eBay evaluated me as below standard had I made a few more transactions the % aspect would have been fine.

I think the Minimum anyone should have is TEN PP accounts.

Who knows what the future holds in terms of rules and regulations.

I'm in the process of creating 50 +/- accounts. Once I get there I see how I feel and what is happening with my PP accounts.

I can't think of any reason not to have at least TEN accounts? :juggle:

Shadowmoe7 01-06-2013 03:44 PM

what is success

NoneOther 01-06-2013 04:22 PM

A measure of the outcome of your efforts

Stigger 01-08-2013 02:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turboman (Post 407142)
hehe are you kidding me

we wouldnt be here other wise mate

yes we came here as we got banned or other

i kept on trying to stealth myself... failed accounts over and over and over

i got the book and have started earning money again

my circumstances found me out of work, banned from ebay and almost broke, almost lost my home car and everything

once i was earning again i could creep back up the ladder

have lost stealth accounts along the way but is only down to my own faults slip up and errors

it can be a long road....but one well worth the trip

some paitence and you can be back on track

you will want to rant and rave... and it may get a little frustrating if you come accross a difficult hurdle... but dont forget we have all been in the same boat at some point

and dont forget now your in stealth mode, dont be posting any personal info, your name or anything like that, if you have to post about a situation you find yourself in keep it business info based only no personal info

you should do ok... and dont get cocky, if you have the book read it, dont think thats it aww that easy enough... read it again, not everything in the book will apply to you if you uk but its still an education... then just when you think you have it sorted read it again LOL

you will more than likely always need to look back on

and dont think now your going stealth everything will just fall into place and be cool
you still have to operate in a 100% proper manner... mess up getting limitations, negatives, warnings and poof your gone

1st things 1st best thing you could have done is get the book
get reading, make notes, think it through
read it again and again

good luck and if you get stuck... you can rest assured someone will have already asked the question your about to... search and read other peoples input here, its very educational just reading other members issues and how they are resolved or not
and ask the members for help


cracking post that pal, it should be sent as a welcome email to every u.k newbie that joins the site.


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