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moneyhustler88 03-27-2013 06:25 PM

wow keithy..perhaps eBay are tightening up on refunds? Who knows. thanks though..and yeah sorry mean seller @ Greenbean

GreenBean 03-27-2013 06:27 PM

Time to stop the phone calls. You are wasting your time.

Get all the evidence together from the seller telling you of his limit issues & RM telling you delivery info.

Frankly you are waffling around. Do you not know how to make a statement of the issues in writing?
:ranger:

SUVE 03-27-2013 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 434873)
Hi No. I'll explain fully perhaps I haven't explained this well.

I bidded on a £70 item, on winning it on ebay
The seller sends me a message saying that his paypal recieval limit has been reached, can I send it to his wifes account the payment and he'll mark the transaction as complete.
I said thats fine as long as the account surname on paypal matches your surname on eBay and you deliver to my ebay & paypal matching verified address.
He agreed, I sent payment.

Nothing ever gets received.
I message him. He claims his wife mixed up the delivery and he sent it to the wrong house. The house he sent it to is still in my town.
I open a dispute >> Paypal say postage info for wrong address is sufficient.

Oh and after I paid on ebay buyer changed payment to sent/marked it.
I said to ebay i sent payment to address buyer asked it was a outside of paypal transaction/ebay because he SPECIFIED so. I told them he had said about his recieval limit, even offered to send them the messages.

Please re read my earlier post further up......how on earth would you be able to escalate this to a complaint/dispute when on your EB/PP it would show as being unpaid for ???

The item will still have shown as being UNPAID for on your EB/PP A/C (even if the seller marked it as 'complete', if this is even possible ???), with no ELECTRONIC records of any funds being received or recorded by or at the linked eB- PP end for you as a buyer.

You acting outside of EB/PP buyer protection terms with or without the sellers say so has little to no bearing on you then NOT being protected by the buyer scheme....because you acted outside of their buyer/seller protection ToS.

The risk of you rendering yourself ineligible for buyer protection is very high because you paid for an EB item to a DIFFERENT PP A/C.

This transaction account you've conveyed is beyond the 'norm' by most expectations.

moneyhustler88 03-27-2013 06:33 PM

Hey SUVE sorry I missed responding to that. Well I just opened a dispute on PayPal.
And as for eBay the seller can mark a payment as received.

And well all I did was follow instructions that were sent to me via eBay.
And as far as I was aware PayPal states that for an item to be validated as delivered it must show evidence of address, postcode etc.
But there now saying thats not the case.
If i had known I'd be unprotecting myself..would have never carried out the transaction.

Whats more weird is that when i call paypal they're agreeing with me, re-opening the case on appeal. Then literally 30 mins later it's closed by someone and the same decision again.

I think its time i got royal mail+ the cops involved

SUVE 03-27-2013 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 434904)
Hey SUVE sorry I missed responding to that. Well I just opened a dispute on PayPal.
And as for eBay the seller can mark a payment as received.


And well all I did was follow instructions that were sent to me via eBay.
And as far as I was aware PayPal states that for an item to be validated as delivered it must show evidence of address, postcode etc.
But there now saying thats not the case.
If i had known I'd be unprotecting myself..would have never carried out the transaction.

Whats more weird is that when i call paypal they're agreeing with me, re-opening the case on appeal. Then literally 30 mins later it's closed by someone and the same decision again.

I think its time i got royal mail+ the cops involved

Either EB or PP dealt with this, not both of them (???).

The seller CAN mark it as received, understood BUT there are NO electronic funds transfers/&/or records (as in your case) which EB/PP can discern about for that particular EB/PP A/C item transaction.

You will have very little to no leeway with the Police on this.

I cannot offer you 'better' advice than the given below to you:

Time to stop the phone calls. You are wasting your time.

Get all the evidence together from the seller telling you of his limit issues & RM telling you delivery info.

Frankly you are waffling around. Do you not know how to make a statement of the issues in writing?

moneyhustler88 03-27-2013 06:45 PM

It was all paypal i complained through.
And i could do with help on statement, can you pm me SUVE? Would appreciate it

SUVE 03-27-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 434908)
It was all paypal i complained through.
And i could do with help on statement, can you pm me SUVE? Would appreciate it

The person who gave you that piece of advise that I advised you to refer to, is 'better' positioned than myself to render that help

Stick to factual information, keep your emotion out of it & be brief & to the point. Back it up with any records or verifiable details you have to hand on this matter.

moneyhustler88 03-27-2013 06:58 PM

yeah..ok...cool

moneyhustler88 03-28-2013 12:18 PM

I found out how the seller got away with this now..he's sent paypal a photoshopped post office receipt for the item which matches my paypal address

rsot 03-28-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 434908)
It was all paypal i complained through.
And i could do with help on statement, can you pm me SUVE? Would appreciate it

Probably best to take initiative and pm SUVE directly :)

moneyhustler88 03-28-2013 01:19 PM

I didn't want to bother him. This sucks to be fair..i've got 3 amazing stealths I've set up and aged right..2 with no problems in 2 years. and i use this 1 account and mess it up *slaps head* fml. I feel like just giving up tbf..learn a lesson $500 down lol

TonyAlmeida 03-28-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 435095)
I didn't want to bother him. This sucks to be fair..i've got 3 amazing stealths I've set up and aged right..2 with no problems in 2 years. and i use this 1 account and mess it up *slaps head* fml. I feel like just giving up tbf..learn a lesson $500 down lol

???????????????????:help::help::help::help:

moneyhustler88 03-28-2013 01:23 PM

Well i've got a police report..got a email from royal mail...all confirming the item didn't go where it was suppose to. all sent to paypal so suppose its praying time now. But never again will i do a transaction outside of ebay..


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