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toonamy 06-17-2014 07:29 AM

VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
What is the general opinion about the use of VPS and VPN with dedicated, fresh and unused IP?

I need to be "based" in another country. I'm not sure if I should get a new fresh, unused and dedicated IP from a VPN service, or try out one of these VPS-systems.

Some sellers of accounts give private IP that was used to establish the account. Whilst others do fully unlimited accounts, but you have to continue using it and establishing cookies from a new IP and user.

Karakolio 06-17-2014 07:53 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
VPN companies are high risk. Why do you think IP will be unused? It's just a marketing trick, otherwise they will be making a loss.

toonamy 06-17-2014 08:44 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
I'm a bit interested in why VPNs are high-risk, because there are different opinions on the matter. I am currently about to buy an account from someone on the forum that also provide the IP address used to create it.

thready 06-17-2014 01:21 PM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
The general opinion from what i read here is VPN is risky and VPS is less riskier than VPN.

stanislav 06-18-2014 12:34 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Okay can someone explain this to me, maybe I am missing something here...

You say that using VPN is risky ... Okay ....

So when I use my ISP aren't all IPs I use are also used by others? I am pretty sure a lot of others who use my ISP also log into their eBay and PayPal accounts. So if one of their accounts was to get suspended and then I happen to use the same IP they were suspended with, would that suspend me too? I doubt that ... Pretty sure by now I would have used someone's suspended IP ...

GhostWhoWalks 06-18-2014 09:41 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
VPS is good. Make sure you have 256MB on it to operate your eb account.

It's all you need. They are low as $4 per month. I got 4 dozen of these.

toonamy 06-19-2014 08:49 PM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 560798)
Okay can someone explain this to me, maybe I am missing something here...

You say that using VPN is risky ... Okay ....

So when I use my ISP aren't all IPs I use are also used by others? I am pretty sure a lot of others who use my ISP also log into their eBay and PayPal accounts. So if one of their accounts was to get suspended and then I happen to use the same IP they were suspended with, would that suspend me too? I doubt that ... Pretty sure by now I would have used someone's suspended IP ...

This is part of the reason why I am wondering as well. IPs will get recycled if its your ISP or VPN provider. And nobody offers any real concrete points to why VPS is more secure, except from the fact that some VPNs do public IPs. But even logging on such a VPN with a public-used IP would me absolute complete madness in any case.

Anyway, I will be getting a VPS set and start operating from that just. It also adds some privacy, as I connect to the VPS using a VPN.

thready 06-20-2014 04:47 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toonamy (Post 561187)
This is part of the reason why I am wondering as well. IPs will get recycled if its your ISP or VPN provider. And nobody offers any real concrete points to why VPS is more secure, except from the fact that some VPNs do public IPs. But even logging on such a VPN with a public-used IP would me absolute complete madness in any case.

Anyway, I will be getting a VPS set and start operating from that just. It also adds some privacy, as I connect to the VPS using a VPN.


You can't get shut down just because you use a previously used IP by someone who was suspended. You have to meet several requirements to trigger a manual review or suspension.

GreenBean 06-20-2014 06:08 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Sometimes if paypal/ebay are looking and an account is flagged, the same IP being used could be a problem.

stanislav 06-22-2014 01:12 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
I guess they won't shut down your account just because you used an IP that was already used by another ebay user who was also shut down however like others here said it will raise a red flag and your account might be reviewed manually. The more red flags you accumulate the more chance there is for linking your account with another one of yours or someone's. I was once linked to another suspended account that wasn't mine because I used FLYNumber which was used by someone else and their account was suspended. They asked me to send documents, invoices and such but thankfully I passed and was reinstated.

toonamy 06-22-2014 06:12 PM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Why is a private, dedicated and "fresh" IP from a VPN less likely to have been used than the VPS ip? They all cycle IPs.

stanislav 06-22-2014 11:13 PM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toonamy (Post 561633)
Why is a private, dedicated and "fresh" IP from a VPN less likely to have been used than the VPS ip? They all cycle IPs.

They claim when you buy their FRESH IP it hasn't been used by anyone before. Basically it is reserved to you only and is not a shared ip.

toonamy 06-23-2014 10:57 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 561660)
They claim when you buy their FRESH IP it hasn't been used by anyone before. Basically it is reserved to you only and is not a shared ip.

Equally a VPS IP can be used as well. They don't even claim to have unused IPs.

stanislav 06-24-2014 02:01 AM

Re: VPN Dedicated IP vs VPS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toonamy (Post 561717)
Equally a VPS IP can be used as well. They don't even claim to have unused IPs.

If they don't claim then it must be shared ip ...


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