I guess ETSY kicked me again

[kronengriffharry]

I opened a stealth ETSY account a week ago.
Used the name, address, CC of the account I once bought from a seller here.
New Static IP
new images, cleaned with exif cleaner
Everything went smooth, already had a sale 2 days ago.
Listed a few new items today and noticed they don't show up in search.
Since a while I can't find my shop anymore.
None of my listings either.

I already contacted seller support but I already know they totally suck.
Not sure if they will ever answer.

Did I overlook something what might have linked me?

[unkown5454]

You linked yourself somehow. Once the items stop showing up, it's time to start over. The store is done.

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

You linked yourself somehow. Once the items stop showing up, it's time to start over. The store is done.

I don't mind to start over but want to figure out what linked me

[unkown5454]

First of all, account info can be whatever you want it to be. All that matters is a new CC.

Then...new IP, new windows/mac user account, new PP email, and new images.

Now, if you have items that a strictly prohibited, you just won't last. Other than that, this is exactly what I have done every time and all accounts are open. Et.sy is incredibly easy to make accounts on. I don't know why people struggle with this.

[MM78]

I would recommend a Portable Browser.

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by MM78

I would recommend a Portable Browser.

Using firefox portable

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

First of all, account info can be whatever you want it to be. All that matters is a new CC.

Then...new IP, new windows/mac user account, new PP email, and new images.

Now, if you have items that a strictly prohibited, you just won't last. Other than that, this is exactly what I have done every time and all accounts are open. Et.sy is incredibly easy to make accounts on. I don't know why people struggle with this.

New CC (came with the account that I purchased)
new PP email, new user account and new images
items are not prohibited
no copyright issues, I only sell my own designs on handmade items

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by kronengriffharry

no copyright issues, I only sell my own designs on handmade items

If you were already banned with those, and then relisted them, you linked yourself....

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

If you were already banned with those, and then relisted them, you linked yourself....

totally new designs, never listed on ETSY before

[GreenBean]

Can you be 100% sure there is no similarity?

The actual item may now be flagged, even with design variations.

[kronengriffharry]

Not sure what exactly you mean.
I listed simple patterns (some with monogram) on the old account
On this account I listed graphic designs, totally different

[unkown5454]

Do you have any competitors?

What's funny is that you said the account was up until you listed some more items, then they all disappeared. From my experience with Et.sy, that's exactly what happens when you upload an image and the hash bot recognizes it to belong to a previous account.

One of those items brought the account down.

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

Do you have any competitors?

Yeah, enough competitors

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

What's funny is that you said the account was up until you listed some more items, then they all disappeared. From my experience with Et.sy, that's exactly what happens when you upload an image and the hash bot recognizes it to belong to a previous account.

Since last friday I listed about a hand full each day.
Sometimes it takes a while but after 30 minutes or so they came up in search.
Until today...
But I did not change anything

[unkown5454]

So you listed nothing the day it went down?

I really don't know what else to tell you other than potential competitor problems or hash bot finding one of those new items.

This is something you are going to have to test on your own by making new accounts and carefully listing new items until accounts go down again. Just change one thing each time until you narrow down the problem. That's how ste/alth is perfected anyways. Many of the sites I operate on are not even mentioned on this forum. I had to test them on my own applying all collective knowledge of ste/alth.

Not once have the stea/lth methods we speak of here ever failed me on any site.

[kronengriffharry]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

So you listed nothing the day it went down?

I listed 3 new items yesterday but noticed a minute later that there has been no traffic on my site since about an hour or so before I listed those 3.
Does that make sense?

The store is still visible on ETSY but does not show up in search.

Needless to mention that seller support did not get back to me yet

[unkown5454]

From everything you have mentioned, my opinion is still that one of those items caused a problem and the store was removed from search. Eventually they will come by and delete the store.

Don't expect them to help you with anything. You need to move on and make new stores and stop wasting time.

[kronengriffharry]

News from Etsy's Marketplace Integrity Team

Hello,

This is Patrick from Etsy's Marketplace Integrity Team. Thank you for getting in touch with us about this.

It looks like your shop has been deactivated for security reasons, based on certain information you entered while creating your listings. I'm happy to work with you on removing the delay, but first I'd like to get your help in answering a few questions about your shop and items.

For items to be listed in the Handmade category, they have to fit into Etsy’s definition of Handmade. To ensure that your items can be sold in this category, I ask that you please answer the following questions within the next two weeks.

Any information you provide will be kept completely confidential. Please note, however, that providing false information may result in the suspension of your account privileges.

Step 1:
Explain how you run your business and who is involved in the design and creation of your items:

1) What is your role in the business? What does your day to day look like?
2) If you have hired employees, what are their names and what is their role in your business?
3) Where are you and the members of your shop located?

Step 2:
Explain your Handmade process. Imagine you’re teaching someone to make the item listed below. Please write out – in as much detail as possible – the steps you use to create the following item:

bla bla bla...

Step 3:
Document your Handmade process. Please attach photographs of the steps you described above. In all of the images you attach, please include a piece of paper displaying your username and the date.

Specifically, I'll need to see images of:
-The workspace, tools, and equipment you use to make the items in your shop.
-The raw materials or supplies you use to create your items.
-The step-by-step process you use to create the item specified in Step 2.

Step 4:
Fill out your About page and tell the Etsy community about how your items are being produced and who is involved in your shop.

For tips on creating your About page, please take a look at these resources:

Links removed

For your reference, here is a direct link for creating and editing your About page:

Once I hear back from you with this information, I'll review it and promptly get back to you. I understand that your Etsy shop is your business, and I intend to make this process as quick and smooth as possible.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns about this process. I look forward to learning more about your creative business.



Best,
Patrick
Etsy Marketplace Integrity

____

This message is a private conversation between you and Etsy. Please respect this confidentiality and refrain from distributing this communication without permission from Etsy. If you feel this message was sent to you in error, please delete it and let us know. Thank you.

[kronengriffharry]

Best part is
Step 4:
Fill out your About page and tell the Etsy community about how your items are being produced and who is involved in your shop.


Just wondering how am I gonna do that since they deactivated the account today and I can not even log in

[unkown5454]

Ok, this is the last time I am going to respond to you.

I have told you already that I have gone through all the BS in creating Et.sy acconts and you refuse to listen to my advice.

What they are doing is discouraging you in order to get rid of you. Just like the big e-commerce sites, they will do absolutely nothing to help you and they don't care.

MAKE NEW ACCOUNTS. STOP WASTING TIME COMPLAINING. You obviously have very little experience in the ways of stea/lth and I am not going to hold your hand every second.

Don't listen to me, whine all day long, then give up. I'm done here.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

Ok, this is the last time I am going to respond to you.

I have told you already that I have gone through all the BS in creating Et.sy acconts and you refuse to listen to my advice.

What they are doing is discouraging you in order to get rid of you. Just like the big e-commerce sites, they will do absolutely nothing to help you and they don't care.

MAKE NEW ACCOUNTS. STOP WASTING TIME COMPLAINING. You obviously have very little experience in the ways of stea/lth and I am not going to hold your hand every second.

Don't listen to me, whine all day long, then give up. I'm done here.

People just wont listen. Many of use use trial and error and test to learn and help others. Many will listen but some wont.

You have laid it our perfectly and used your time to do so.

OP people are not trying to help you for nothing, they are taking their time to spend helping you. Why not listen?

Whatever you are doing it is wrong period. Listen to Unknown, one of the brightest we have here who has a vast knowledge across different selling platforms.

[kronengriffharry]

My intention was to keep you updated

I kissed that account goodbye anyway, but I just wanted to share their response

And I think I know now what killed that account
The address on the account is in IL, but I stated TX as location.

well, live and learn