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online28 08-04-2014 07:08 AM

high risk items
 
How can I sell high risk item in new stealth account?
What is the "safe" standard to sell it?
for example, 5 seller feedback, 1 month old, etc.

Thanks:heh::FF:

rsot 08-04-2014 07:15 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quite the strong question there....you can't sell it on a new account.

"Safe" is such a relative term...

ilcarletto 08-04-2014 07:15 AM

Re: high risk items
 
There is no "safe" standard. You will be always at risk.
The more the account is solid, aged, with an history, the better.

Callidus 08-04-2014 07:16 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Depends what you mean by high risk.... are we talking the infamous headphone brand that shall not be named. If not, you probably won't be able to sell them. You need a SOLID account to sell high risk with a lot of feedback. Can be done on new accounts but it can lead to a lot of problems.

Ebayorbust 08-04-2014 07:19 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Yes you need to remember that selling counterfeits is illegal and could get you into a lot of trouble when caught.

jeffweico 08-04-2014 07:37 AM

Re: high risk items
 
If your items are legitimate and you can prove they are legitimate, then you might want to send a message to the VERO member asking for their permission to sell the item. That will avoid most of the eBay issues that come along with selling such items.

If you are selling counterfeits, then there is no "safe" way to sell such items. Forgetting about law enforcement, you will still have to deal with eBay/PayPal/Amazon and their security measures. They know which items are mass-produced by counterfeiters and they watch ALL accounts selling such items, especially NEW accounts. They will probably want to verify your identity and also know who your supplier is. They know the legitimate suppliers and will most likely call them to check to make sure you are a customer and that your items are legitimate.

Now, back to law enforcement for a sec... Remember, stealth WILL hide you from eBay and PayPal, but it WON'T hide you from law enforcement. And they are cracking down more and more on the sales of counterfeit merchandise.

online28 08-04-2014 08:42 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Im not selling counterfeiters stuffs.. just Game.
I bought it from my supplier.(They should be legal but they cant prove it)
However, if I list "Game" in new account, and MC010 wiill come immediately.
How can I list it without MC010 and MC999?

Thanks

Callidus 08-04-2014 08:44 AM

Re: high risk items
 
If they can't prove it surely it isn't legit?

Speeder33 08-04-2014 09:11 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Ebay assumes you are guilty until proven innocent. Your account won't last long selling high risk items without solid proof the items are legitimate

sergfro 08-04-2014 09:15 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by online28 (Post 574279)
Im not selling counterfeiters stuffs.. just Game.
I bought it from my supplier.(They should be legal but they cant prove it)
However, if I list "Game" in new account, and MC010 wiill come immediately.
How can I list it without MC010 and MC999?

Thanks



I would avoid listing cards against humanity items at all cost.

online28 08-04-2014 10:34 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speeder33 (Post 574295)
Ebay assumes you are guilty until proven innocent. Your account won't last long selling high risk items without solid proof the items are legitimate

Must they ask?:confused: anyway to avoid their asking?

online28 08-04-2014 10:49 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 574261)
If your items are legitimate and you can prove they are legitimate, then you might want to send a message to the VERO member asking for their permission to sell the item. That will avoid most of the eBay issues that come along with selling such items.

If you are selling counterfeits, then there is no "safe" way to sell such items. Forgetting about law enforcement, you will still have to deal with eBay/PayPal/Amazon and their security measures. They know which items are mass-produced by counterfeiters and they watch ALL accounts selling such items, especially NEW accounts. They will probably want to verify your identity and also know who your supplier is. They know the legitimate suppliers and will most likely call them to check to make sure you are a customer and that your items are legitimate.

Now, back to law enforcement for a sec... Remember, stealth WILL hide you from eBay and PayPal, but it WON'T hide you from law enforcement. And they are cracking down more and more on the sales of counterfeit merchandise.

If I want to sell Stream game, Could I get the receipt from XXX SHOP(Real local shop) rather than Stream?

Could the receipt prove the item is legitimate?


Thanks

Speeder33 08-04-2014 12:20 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by online28 (Post 574309)
Must they ask?:confused: anyway to avoid their asking?

If you are selling risky items, there is a high chance that they will eventually mc999 you.

online28 08-04-2014 12:26 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Speeder33 (Post 574340)
If you are selling risky items, there is a high chance that they will eventually mc999 you.

If I bought account which is passing MC999(they have called and pass the MC999 before I bought the account), is it possible to sell the risky items?

Im afraid of MC010.:s

MM78 08-04-2014 12:36 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by online28 (Post 574343)
If I bought account which is passing MC999(they have called and pass the MC999 before I bought the account), is it possible to sell the risky items?

Im afraid of MC010.:s

Your confusing MC999 that involves calling in to verify account info....

The other MC999 is the kind that is given when Ebay takes your listing down. No account in the world is immune to this.

unkown5454 08-04-2014 02:13 PM

Re: high risk items
 
This post is so much fail. Not even worth answering such silly questions.

You want to sell ill.egal stuff. We can't help you.

lolzcat 08-04-2014 02:25 PM

Re: high risk items
 
You can get away with it on a new account but it will cause problems. you will have listing take downs, suspensions, and eventually they're going to want you to verify that the supplier is legit. I guess it doesn't matter if you want to burn through accounts but long term its not a good strategy

jeffweico 08-04-2014 04:15 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by online28 (Post 574312)
If I want to sell Stream game, Could I get the receipt from XXX SHOP(Real local shop) rather than Stream?

Could the receipt prove the item is legitimate?


Thanks

If you were selling 1 or 2 such items, then eBay would probably accept those receipts. But if you are listing large volumes (and by large, I mean anything more than 10 - and the 10 do not have to be listed at the same time) then they will want to see a relationship with a wholesale supplier. If the item is simply cheaper in China than it is in the US, then you could make that point and maybe eBay would be OK with it.

It is just that with all of the counterfeits, eBay has become very hard on sellers who sell these types of items, even if they are 100% legitimate. I know people who sold legitimate DVD's that got banned by eBay because eBay didn't like their suppliers (closeout companies).

I would just add that just because someone you bought the "game" from tells you it is legitimate does not necessarily mean that it IS legitimate. Someone trying to sell counterfeits is not likely to admit they are selling counterfeits. Not that I am judging your supplier, the "game" may be 100% legitimate. I'm just saying you have to be careful when buying.

GhostWhoWalks 08-04-2014 09:30 PM

Re: high risk items
 
My products! :)

Don't sell uno cards! I guess that's high risk now days from what I read. Still laughing at how lame that is of Ebay to do that.

For high risk I would say anything over $40 on newer accounts might be high risk, anything with a brand name, or titles that have the word "iphone" or any type of phone name in it, anything that is below $1 on newer accounts, anything is hot selling I would say or a HOT ITEM. They might think you are just coming in to cash in and bail out.

One guy posted sim cards for .99 cents and got the account locked. Just really depends.

Try here if you want to build up the account first. Build it up for 3 months first get some feedback get some limits raised on their on and voila finito.

Do about a few items then after 3 months try listing other things? I am not sure what ebay time frame for aged accounts is but I'm guessing 3 months. I could be wrong. I never have a problem at all.
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jeffweico 08-04-2014 09:42 PM

Re: high risk items
 
High risk items, a few examples:

DVD Box Sets
Disney DVD's (the classic animated ones)
New releases on DVD
Fitness programs sold on infomercials, such as the P90X, Shaun Insanity, Beachbody, etc.
Rolex watches
Ladies purses (brand names)
Razor blade cartridges
Jewelry (since most people cannot sell real gold from ⊗⊗⊗⊗ gold and real gems from ⊗⊗⊗⊗ gems)
Hot new "as seen on TV" items
Apple ANYTHING
Electronics (counterfeits and quality issues)
Autographs
Rare coins and stamps
Hot name brand apparel, such as FUBU, etc.

There is a ton of stuff that falls into the high-risk category. Basically, anything that is mass-produced by counterfeiters falls into that category. So does anything that can be easily ⊗⊗⊗⊗d, such as autographs and jewelry. Anything that can be mis-graded, such as rare stamps and coins, valuable comics and such. Anything having known quality issues.

This is not an exhaustive list, but it should give you an idea...

GhostWhoWalks 08-04-2014 10:02 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 574487)
High risk items, a few examples:

DVD Box Sets
Disney DVD's (the classic animated ones)
New releases on DVD
Fitness programs sold on infomercials, such as the P90X, Shaun Insanity, Beachbody, etc.
Rolex watches
Ladies purses (brand names)
Razor blade cartridges
Jewelry (since most people cannot sell real gold from ⊗⊗⊗⊗ gold and real gems from ⊗⊗⊗⊗ gems)
Hot new "as seen on TV" items
Apple ANYTHING
Electronics (counterfeits and quality issues)
Autographs
Rare coins and stamps
Hot name brand apparel, such as FUBU, etc.

There is a ton of stuff that falls into the high-risk category. Basically, anything that is mass-produced by counterfeiters falls into that category. So does anything that can be easily ⊗⊗⊗⊗d, such as autographs and jewelry. Anything that can be mis-graded, such as rare stamps and coins, valuable comics and such. Anything having known quality issues.

This is not an exhaustive list, but it should give you an idea...

Seriously Razor blade cartridges??? loll wow ebay is really good!

unkown5454 08-04-2014 10:08 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Go to iOf.fer.com

Take every featured category they have on their home page, then place the word "hot" in front of the category name. Now you have the official high-risk list.

Ebayorbust 08-05-2014 01:53 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

DVD Box Sets
Disney DVD's (the classic animated ones)
New releases on DVD
You would be amazed at how many f@ke ones of these I've seen sold on accounts. Many think they are too clever to get caught. How wrong they are.

rsot 08-05-2014 02:52 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 574495)
Seriously Razor blade cartridges??? loll wow ebay is really good!

Question of health and safety - few members have reported in OLD posts about big issues with the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ razor blades :(

jeffweico 08-05-2014 10:32 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 574495)
Seriously Razor blade cartridges??? loll wow ebay is really good!

I bought some Mach3 cartridges on eBay years ago. I had no idea that counterfeits of these existed, so I didn't see any issues with ordering. These are fairly expensive items - I think that a 4 pack was nearly $20 at Walgreens and there was a 16 pack on eBay for $15! I was THRILLED to get such a good deal.

Until the first time I used them. I nearly ended up in the emergency room! They cut me in 3 places before I even realized what was going on. I called Gillette to complain and sent the cartridges to them. I was ready to get an attorney and file a lawsuit. Then Gillette came back and told me they were counterfeits.

I was stunned! Up until that point, if you mentioned "counterfeits" I thought of things like Rolex watches, or expensive jewelry. I had no idea that even cheap items were being mass-produced by counterfeiters. That was a fairly painful way to get an education. Luckily I was not disfigured by them, but that could EASILY have happened.

Needless to say, I would NEVER buy a pack of razors online again - not even from Amazon!

GhostWhoWalks 08-05-2014 01:32 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 574553)
Question of health and safety - few members have reported in OLD posts about big issues with the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ razor blades :(

oh WOW. That's really something.

GhostWhoWalks 08-05-2014 01:34 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 574628)
I bought some Mach3 cartridges on eBay years ago. I had no idea that counterfeits of these existed, so I didn't see any issues with ordering. These are fairly expensive items - I think that a 4 pack was nearly $20 at Walgreens and there was a 16 pack on eBay for $15! I was THRILLED to get such a good deal.

Until the first time I used them. I nearly ended up in the emergency room! They cut me in 3 places before I even realized what was going on. I called Gillette to complain and sent the cartridges to them. I was ready to get an attorney and file a lawsuit. Then Gillette came back and told me they were counterfeits.

I was stunned! Up until that point, if you mentioned "counterfeits" I thought of things like Rolex watches, or expensive jewelry. I had no idea that even cheap items were being mass-produced by counterfeiters. That was a fairly painful way to get an education. Luckily I was not disfigured by them, but that could EASILY have happened.

Needless to say, I would NEVER buy a pack of razors online again - not even from Amazon!

OMFG! That's one thing I don't try to save money or go cheap on is that. I mean you putting a blade up to your neck! You don't wanna f around with that, that's for sure!

If I do get it cheaper it's with a coupon or on sale. But yikes man. I would of reported them to EB for sure!!!!!!! Sorry to hear that Jeffery!

newjerseymax 08-06-2014 08:56 AM

Re: high risk items
 
My guess 50% if not more what is being sold on ebay has been counterfeited at one time or another.... I have read that even military planes in our US Air Force have ended up with counterfeit parts.... Some interesting videos on youtube....

GhostWhoWalks 08-06-2014 09:06 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by newjerseymax (Post 574975)
My guess 50% if not more what is being sold on ebay has been counterfeited at one time or another.... I have read that even military planes in our US Air Force have ended up with counterfeit parts.... Some interesting videos on youtube....

Yup, I know a guy who works for the military and he told me one guy was trying to save money and pocket the profits and got parts made in china for a few bucks that would normally cost $400 to $500 and they put this on the planes without knowing and one day the plane just something happened in mid air and we can guess what happened next.

I couldn't believe it!

rsot 08-06-2014 09:44 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 574978)
Yup, I know a guy who works for the military and he told me one guy was trying to save money and pocket the profits and got parts made in china for a few bucks that would normally cost $400 to $500 and they put this on the planes without knowing and one day the plane just something happened in mid air and we can guess what happened next.

I couldn't believe it!

http://www.heartcom.org/BelieveorNot.jpg

MM78 08-06-2014 10:51 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Youtube "phake Britain" You can see all the stuff being bootleged in Britain.....Even Corona's!

GhostWhoWalks 08-06-2014 10:07 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 574985)

troll! lol

:thumb::laugh::pound:

GhostWhoWalks 08-06-2014 10:08 PM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 575005)
Youtube "phake Britain" You can see all the stuff being bootleged in Britain.....Even Corona's!

omfg I got to rip these videos! I can't believe this! WOW Talk about VeRO and other items. Yikes!

MM78 08-07-2014 02:15 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 575229)
omfg I got to rip these videos! I can't believe this! WOW Talk about VeRO and other items. Yikes!

Dude it's not even Funny, they phake stuff you had no idea!

GreenBean 08-07-2014 02:42 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 575005)
Youtube "phake Britain" You can see all the stuff being bootleged in Britain.....Even Corona's!

For sure.

The cousins across the Pond do all sorts of phakes.

Make them in the house even.

Google the UK site FACT


It's a squeaky bum moment for many.

:boink:

rsot 08-07-2014 03:51 AM

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MM78 08-07-2014 09:42 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Northern Ireland eBay trader given a suspended sentence for selling counterfeit Disney DVDs

Northern Ireland eBay trader given a suspended sentence for selling counterfeit Disney DVDs | FACT

rsot 08-07-2014 10:27 AM

Re: high risk items
 

GhostWhoWalks 08-07-2014 11:41 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 575396)
Northern Ireland eBay trader given a suspended sentence for selling counterfeit Disney DVDs

Northern Ireland eBay trader given a suspended sentence for selling counterfeit Disney DVDs | FACT

If he got busted he didn't use stealth methods! :pound:

Ebayorbust 08-07-2014 11:46 AM

Re: high risk items
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 575429)
If he got busted he didn't use stealth methods! :pound:

This is true however these arrests usually arise from a small "tip off". ;)


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