| | Re: List of do's and don'ts Any good branded FlashDrive (USB Drive) will work.....I run a 32GB Kingston (Not an Ebay phake), it basically holds all my Stealth Info...from account(s), Pictures, everything. |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 02:14 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 575835)
Roaming plans will kill your budget. You are better off paying for a greater Canadian plan. | Yeah true. I am on a boarder city so who knows if I could get a connection from a US Tower here.
But yeah a plan from Canada might be great. I think the mifi would be great.
I just found out about my IP address from the provider that I have dynamic. I guess you can change that. But the thing is I use gmail with thunderbird and wouldn't want thunderbird to go off each time a new ip logs in for those accounts and I got to go into each account 1 by 1 to click "okay it was me at that location" and each time I'd have a different ip address (4 dozen accounts) would take up a lot of time. I believe this mifi would be the best as MM and you are saying. |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 02:15 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 575837)
Any good branded FlashDrive (USB Drive) will work.....I run a 32GB Kingston (Not an Ebay phake), it basically holds all my Stealth Info...from account(s), Pictures, everything. | Yeah for things like that I wouldn't trust eb for electronics after seeing that phake britian videos. I'll spend the extra money for it. |
| An0nym0u$ | 08-08-2014 02:28 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Visit my eBay Electronics store GWW, only the best products for you guaranteed :FF:
Sorry, no refunds... |
| GoteBay | 08-08-2014 02:57 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 575838)
Yeah true. I am on a boarder city so who knows if I could get a connection from a US Tower here.
But yeah a plan from Canada might be great. I think the mifi would be great.
I just found out about my IP address from the provider that I have dynamic. I guess you can change that. But the thing is I use gmail with thunderbird and wouldn't want thunderbird to go off each time a new ip logs in for those accounts and I got to go into each account 1 by 1 to click "okay it was me at that location" and each time I'd have a different ip address (4 dozen accounts) would take up a lot of time. I believe this mifi would be the best as MM and you are saying. | Mifi is definitely great. Regardless, you have to keep the log of IPs to make sure mistakes do not happen.
I gree with MM78, grab a Kingston flash drive from Futureshop. |
| FlashingBlade | 08-08-2014 03:42 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Is Mifi any different from creating a portable hotspot on your cell phone? The reason I ask is that I get unlimited data on my phone but the mifi from the same carrier has 1gb limits. Surely they'd use the same IP pool since they're on the same network or is that an incorrect assumption? |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 04:19 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by An0nym0u$
(Post 575844)
Visit my eBay Electronics store GWW, only the best products for you guaranteed :FF:
Sorry, no refunds... | Where is the link at? :pound:
No worries about guarantee! Do you accept paypal? JK! lol :pound: |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 04:21 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 575846)
Mifi is definitely great. Regardless, you have to keep the log of IPs to make sure mistakes do not happen.
I gree with MM78, grab a Kingston flash drive from Futureshop. | Alright why is it important to keep a log of the IP's? I mean if I have a pool of IP's with it.... why would it matter?
Arn't 1000's of others using the same service daily who log onto EB/PP?
What if I can't get the same IP back? Is there a way to keep getting the same IP for the same accounts? |
| xShevaa7x | 08-08-2014 04:32 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 575873)
Alright why is it important to keep a log of the IP's? I mean if I have a pool of IP's with it.... why would it matter?
Arn't 1000's of others using the same service daily who log onto EB/PP?
What if I can't get the same IP back? Is there a way to keep getting the same IP for the same accounts? | Getting the same IP doesn't matter, any IP is fine, but what you don't want is the same IP on more than 1 account. |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 04:33 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by xShevaa7x
(Post 575874)
Getting the same IP doesn't matter, any IP is fine, but what you don't want is the same IP on more than 1 account. | Yikes should I get this will need to disconnect and reconnect then. That is going to be a pain to check so many IP's all the time. I guess excel copy and paste with Ctrl + F then paste connecting IP will do the trick eh? |
| An0nym0u$ | 08-08-2014 08:15 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 575873)
Alright why is it important to keep a log of the IP's? I mean if I have a pool of IP's with it.... why would it matter? | Because you could get an IP that was used with another account previously OR you could mistakenly log into an IP meant for account B when you should have logged into account A. Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 575873)
What if I can't get the same IP back? Is there a way to keep getting the same IP for the same accounts? | Yes. I have mentioned this in other posts. If you keep a record of the MAC address of your router and only use it with Account A, then every time you switch back to Account A using that same MAC, your modem will recognize the router's MAC and assign the same IP if the lease time has not expired.
I have successfully had the same IP with the same account for the last 3+ months. I've lost it once in awhile (by not logging back into it within 24 hours or so), but the new IP I get usually lasts another month or so. |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-08-2014 08:22 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by An0nym0u$
(Post 575904)
Because you could get an IP that was used with another account previously OR you could mistakenly log into an IP meant for account B when you should have logged into account A.
Yes. I have mentioned this in other posts. If you keep a record of the MAC address of your router and only use it with Account A, then every time you switch back to Account A using that same MAC, your modem will recognize the router's MAC and assign the same IP if the lease time has not expired.
I have successfully had the same IP with the same account for the last 3+ months. I've lost it once in awhile (by not logging back into it within 24 hours or so), but the new IP I get usually lasts another month or so. | Very nice thank you for that!!! :thumb: |
| jeffweico | 08-08-2014 09:20 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts The reason a lot of us do not suggest using VPN's is mostly because it is CRITICAL to choose the right provider. You don't want to choose a service that has been overused, or where the IP ranges are known to eBay/PayPal/Amazon. And that means using a smaller, and likely more expensive provider. Too many users here want everything for free. How many times have we been asked "is it OK to use TOR?"
The best IP's are static, not shared. The best providers are smaller providers not likely to be on eBay's radar (hint: those are the ones that cost more than $1 per month).
I have also used 123's VPN for awhile, although it has been resting as of late, and I had no issues. His system is actually quite good when buying a user account. It makes the transfer smoother and gives a newbie one less problem to worry about.
From what I have seen, most accounts do not get shut down because of IP issues. It DOES happen and the IP issue is IMPORTANT, but a lot of accounts get shut down for other things such as: - Selling counterfeits or high-risk items
- Selling shoddy merchandise
- Drop-Shipping
- Arguing with customers
- Refusing refunds
- Giving poor customer service
- Being unprofessional (acting like you are a high-school student)
- Slow shipping
- Cutting corners on Stealth methods
Of course, this is not an exhaustive list.
I can usually predict who will be successful with stealth based on their attitudes. Those who are willing to learn and properly implement stealth methods AND be professional in their business dealings usually do well. Those who do not want to be inconvenienced by things like changing IP's or opening a few bank accounts, or who take each transaction personally and refuse refunds usually end up failing. |
| stanislav | 08-09-2014 12:27 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts I have purchased VPN through 123 and so far they are solid! |
| GreenBean | 08-09-2014 02:24 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GoteBay
(Post 575826)
Rogers Mifi, works great, and can be configured if you unlock it. | Makes up for other defects with Rogers ( like dial up lack of speeds)
:pound: |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-09-2014 03:39 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 575977)
Makes up for other defects with Rogers ( like dial up lack of speeds)
:pound: | Don't hold back on me. Spit out the goods what else do I need to know? lol
Do you use rogers GB? |
Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 575977)
Makes up for other defects with Rogers ( like dial up lack of speeds)
:pound: | Rogers dial up lack of speeds...please elaborate :) |
| evicktd | 08-09-2014 08:51 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 575796)
Seconds....I don't run Separate User Accounts anymore. Everything is running on Portable Browsers from my main User Account. | Brilliant. I use portable browsers *from a post you had on another thread* but I still run separate user accounts. I could just simply put the browsers into different folders! Brilliant. Quote:
$10/Month, $8/Month if pay for the whole year in 1 payment.
| WAIT! Share. MiFi isn't that cheap... plus it's 4G/LTE. :confused: |
| evicktd | 08-09-2014 08:52 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 575800)
The Folders are stored on a special FlashDrive, this allows me to take the FlashDrive and Stealth literally from any Computer....even from a public PC!!!!
The mifi connection software is also portable, so no trace is left behind. | Gold. :thumb: |
| evicktd | 08-09-2014 09:16 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts HAA LE LU YAH HAAA LE LU YAHH HALELLUJAH!
MM78, you deserve a fricken star. I'd marry your daughter out of respect
I'm going to MiFi route in addition to the methods I already implement. I might, however, cancel my Virgin Mobile 3G contract. I thought I was being super slick/stealth by tethering an ultd 3G iPhone 4 for $35, but no one can beat a wireless MiFi for 1/4 the price. Jesus (hallelujah).
I did use the Sprint OverDrive Pro for a little while, but that plan was $39 back in 2012. I suppose the price dropped, IDK, but it looks like the 2 year agreement is close to $9 now. |
Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by evicktd
(Post 576253)
WAIT! Share. MiFi isn't that cheap... plus it's 4G/LTE. :confused: | Hint: Go to Ebay, Search for: Verizon Mifi2200 Flashed
Unfortunately these are not 4G/LTE......They run on 3G Network. |
| evicktd | 08-09-2014 09:31 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 576262)
Hint: Go to Ebay, Search for: Verizon Mifi2200 Flashed
Unfortunately these are not 4G/LTE......They run on 3G Network. | Got that far. Looks like Sprint's 2 yr agreement is $8.59 and Verizon's plan is $20. |
Re: List of do's and don'ts $20? I'm not sure were on the same page....When you buy a Flashed Verizon Mifi2200....you get 2 months free of service and after that it's $10/Month......not sure where the $20 plan is coming from? |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-09-2014 11:09 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts (In a British Accent) Next on "How to make millions selling on ebay with just a 10 dollar a month budget" when evicktd returns with a question as to where MM gets the service from...after our short break. |
| evicktd | 08-09-2014 11:21 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 576286)
(In a British Accent) Next on "How to make millions selling on ebay with just a 10 dollar a month budget" when evicktd returns with a question as to where MM gets the service from...after our short break. | :laugh: (Terminator Accent) I'll be back |
| BeAwesome | 08-11-2014 07:37 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts So, can the same false caveat that has been circulating about VPN's be applied to proxies too?
I was looking into just getting virgin, private proxies. Unused, private... is there something else wrong with using a proxy that I am unaware of?
As long as it has not been used and abused, is there any other concerns? |
| novemberrain1970 | 08-13-2014 01:14 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Thanks to MM I am using MiFi and though I have it forced to 3G only about 2-3 times a day I do get a repeat IP - may be due to the Podunk area I am in not major metro so I track via Excel but OH my it is light years from what I was doing before and the heart attacks when the other 2 providers literally switched IP mid-session. One was AT&T the other was straight talk. VERIZON baby all the way! |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-14-2014 08:54 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts If they only serviced Canada for that price! I'd get it if it had roaming plan. |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-14-2014 11:51 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Does anyone know if using a LTE, 4G will be as good as using a 3G or would there be something missing?
I found a company here in Canada finally that's got a good price on 5GB per month. But they offer LTE in my area. Also seen 4G HSPA+. It's really amazing how many things you can come and cross and still learn about new technology WOW! |
| evicktd | 08-16-2014 05:37 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks
(Post 578064)
Does anyone know if using a LTE, 4G will be as good as using a 3G or would there be something missing?
I found a company here in Canada finally that's got a good price on 5GB per month. But they offer LTE in my area. Also seen 4G HSPA+. It's really amazing how many things you can come and cross and still learn about new technology WOW! | LTE/4G have less IPs, so you'll be running into duplicates more frequently, but it seems like more unique IPs are popping up these days.
I tether my LTE phone for just one account and I've been getting different IPs lately.
There's a ton of 3G IPs, which is why it seems to be the better option.
Definitely a $ saver (at about 1/3 the price of tethering) the MiFi is, but a little bit more time consuming, at about 1:1.5-2 ratio compared to tethering and VPSs |
| evicktd | 08-16-2014 05:39 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by BeAwesome
(Post 576945)
So, can the same false caveat that has been circulating about VPN's be applied to proxies too?
I was looking into just getting virgin, private proxies. Unused, private... is there something else wrong with using a proxy that I am unaware of?
As long as it has not been used and abused, is there any other concerns? | NoOoOoOoO. Proxies are trash. I've tried em personally and have failed, but then again I'm not a guru at making accounts. However, I've heard that even if you make some successful accounts, they're being watched closely and go down in the future :mod: |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-16-2014 08:19 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by evicktd
(Post 578453)
LTE/4G have less IPs, so you'll be running into duplicates more frequently, but it seems like more unique IPs are popping up these days.
I tether my LTE phone for just one account and I've been getting different IPs lately.
There's a ton of 3G IPs, which is why it seems to be the better option.
Definitely a $ saver (at about 1/3 the price of tethering) the MiFi is, but a little bit more time consuming, at about 1:1.5-2 ratio compared to tethering and VPSs | OMG You lost me so bad in this technology chit chat! :O
But yeah I got it. The 4G/LTE that I ran into here in Canada has a lot of IP's from what another member has said and it's really nice and fast!
:)
But yeah I had no idea these devices were that darn fast for wireless technology.
Does it matter if it's a memory stick or a Mifi device? As long as it says 4G or LTE it will still be workable for stealthing right? Got to double check on this. |
Re: List of do's and don'ts Which 4G/LTE in Canada you hitting up GWW? |
| GhostWhoWalks | 08-16-2014 10:49 AM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 578493)
Which 4G/LTE in Canada you hitting up GWW? | Funny thing is I was just about to send you this info by PM but I had to check this thread lol.
I forgot every time I got news about Canadian stuff I got to FWD it to you! |
| barrycruan | 01-25-2015 01:40 PM | Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by 123
(Post 575553)
The truth is a lot of people on this forum have a misguided hatred towards VPNs and using them for stealth. The reality of the matter is that if you support the use of VPS for stealth than you should feel the same way towards VPNs. Because in the big picture there’s really no difference between the two, at least in the context of using it for amazon/ebay purposes.
I think the reason that most people on this forum denounce VPNs, is because a few people tried them for stealth and had a bad experience with them and thus it became a trend for everyone to just follow along and state that they don’t work. So why do some VPNs not work, you may ask? Well that’s pretty simple its simply because people do not know how to search for nor use the proper VPN provider, and thus they end up picking one of the biggest providers available from the first page of google that only gives shared ips, and gives their thousands of members the same ips. And then people wonder why they got limited… Its simple you used an ip that someone else already used for ebay and got banned on, does that mean vpn is bad? NO! It simply means you used a banned ip, any banned ip will obviously get you limited whether VPN or not.
The reason people on this forum ended up supporting the concept that VPS work so well, is because before the need of using it for stealth, most people use VPS to host a website etc not for casually browsing the web. Unlike VPNs which are mainly used for browsing the web. So what does that mean, it means it is probably easier to find a VPS provider and get an IP that is not limited since most people who use VPS are not using it for browsing the web. So does that make VPS better than VPN? Absolutely not, it just means you better know what your looking for and use the right company when searching for a VPN provider. Again, I’m not trying to say VPN is the best solution for everyone, it depends on your preferences and needs. But for me personally, I’ve used VPN for every single one of my accounts for many years without a problem and absolutely love what it does for me, and facilitates a lot of things for me. So again I’m not promoting that everyone starts using VPNs, I’m simply letting people know that this concept that VPNs don’t work is not true at all. And if your looking for a IP solution, than you should do research and figure out what works best for you, not what works best for everyone else. | Why is this well said? It's bad advice.
I turn over 10s of thousands a month on my Amazon accounts. Why on earth would I use a vpn no matter how obscure it is. If other people are allowed on that server then the fait of your account is out of your control.
It's all very well saying you are fine and you might be for years on end. But one day someone else uses that vpn for Amazon and your business is gone over night
I can't believe this is being touted as good advice? If you have access to the Internet there are several easy and much more effective ways to go stealth than this. |
Re: List of do's and don'ts Quote:
Originally Posted by barrycruan
(Post 635269)
Why is this well said? It's bad advice.
I turn over 10s of thousands a month on my Amazon accounts. Why on earth would I use a vpn no matter how obscure it is. If other people are allowed on that server then the fait of your account is out of your control.
It's all very well saying you are fine and you might be for years on end. But one day someone else uses that vpn for Amazon and your business is gone over night
I can't believe this is being touted as good advice? If you have access to the Internet there are several easy and much more effective ways to go stealth than this. |
Your opinion is your opinion, the fact of the matter is that people use VPN & VPS successfully for many years and bring in millions of dollars and your thinking that if one person gets suspended on a server everyone does is just flat out wrong and naive. That just shows you do not know the many ways a server can be configured to be unique. So if you do not like VPNs & VPS then just say that, but trying to say it doesn't work is just being arrogant, cause its clear it works for alot of people. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:49 AM. | |
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