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Paypal new user agreement - issues
 

I've noticed alot of uk users today posting their paypal accounts have been limited.

Some have said its to do with the new paypal user agreement.

Anybody know exactly what is happening?

One member reported they are doing id checks properly now. whats the source of this info? Is it backdated?

Any thoughts

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Don't think anyone has a clue yet, if it's backdated a ****load of people are going to be affected, either that or it's a massive cockup with a new software update, but even if it is i doubt anyone will get their accounts back anyway

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These rules with regards to paypal docs only go into effect next year..

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They will NOT go back through all accounts now when these checks come into place, they just wouldn't have the time nor man power.

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Thats what i would think to, can you imagine lol

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Do you have the date they will start next year bunneh?

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29th January 2015

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If that is the case. Stealth is going to very hard.
While back use to make good money on Amazon. The new I'D process is in and has made harder.

Day by day eBay just want to get rid off of all small sellers.

But the rule is. Use eBay like they use us!!
Don't give up....fight all the way...

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paypal state that.

Be careful of thinking it is not going thro' a Beta testing phase at this point.

Avoid assumptions as there is a lot more evidence needed.

:ballchain:

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As for not having enough manpower - isn't that the whole point of sourcing this out and letting a professional company handle the ID verification?
THOSE guys have enough manpower and are specialized in doing this.
So I wouldn't say for certain that they will go back over all past accounts - but you never know.

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Stealth will continue to adapt...

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Oh sure..... and we can all look forward to the rsot experiments to keep us going.

Going to be waiting for these specific UK ones most keenly.

:rolleyes:

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Sorry, but it's 29th December 2014.

These issues affecting us are being caused by changes to the Privacy Policy which are effective 29th Dec.

The changes to the user agreement are effective 29th Jan.

For those that are concerned, you only need to read that section to understand what's coming.

I'm not scaremongering, it is there is black and white what they will be doing.

Company: ID Checker.nl BV (Netherlands) (Ireland)
Purpose: To verify identity; automatic data extraction from images of documents, and document validation / forgery detection. Research and testing as to appropriateness of new products and services.

Company: Zoot Enterprises, Inc. (USA), Zoot Deutschland GmbH (Germany), Zoot Enterprises Limited (UK)
Purpose: To process technical applications and to provide a data and document gateway for account review and vetting purposes, and to exchange user information and images of documents proving identity, address and ownership of funding instrument with contracted fraud and credit reference agencies. To also aggregate data from internal and external data sources and provide statistical analysis in order to assess the risk of fraud.

The first one is being used to auto-verify documents. The second one uses documents submitted and cross-references with credit bureau data. For example, if you add say a Halifax bank account to your Paypal. They will cross-reference this with a credit agency where some sort of entry for Halifax should appear for the named person. Same with utility bills etc etc.

It is also very unwise to assume that testing of this software has not already taken place and everything will be fine until 29th Dec.

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What does this mean for UK stealth?

Harder stealthily? Or impossible?

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Good luck to anyone that can bypass those sorts of data checks.

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I see a lot more 180 days funds on hold.. and a lot of interest being earned for paypal.

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Harder it gets

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Worse too.


They are asking for ID to release held funds.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/subscri...tml#post609451

Post 27 is scary

:fight:

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There is No such thing as this BETA testing when it comes to this.

They are merely hiring/outsoucing a company.

Beta testing applies to newly made software, which this is not.

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Are there upcoming changes scheduled for US paypal accounts? I need to make a new stealth pp, but i am wondering if my odds for success are better now (late november) or after the holiday season is over?

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This new system just bull****ted me left, right and centre. In July, Paypal allowed me to make a new account because of age and now I apparently did something that violated the user agreement.

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Two of my UK Paypal accounts have gone down as well as a US Paypal account in the past week.

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Permanent limitations with no email from Paypal correct?

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Hiya,

How strange, I was about to message you & will do so in a moment, ....I would class it as a 'soft' limitation at the moment, I can still access the accounts but I cannot make any outbound payments to anyone, really annoying as I needed to make some payments yesterday.

Let me message you now....:peace:

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If it says "This limitation cannot be appealed against" then it isn't a soft limitation and your accounts are toast.

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Did this happen on the same date ( which date btw) or at different times.

:pout:

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@Ebayorbust I simply cannot make ANY payments to anyone as I could the day before (i.e. Tueday). I have no warnings or anything so far from Paypal, other than a vague, 'if you continue to have problems making payments, please contact us'. or words to that effect.

@GreenBean Different dates, different times. The first Paypal account I experienced an issue with it this Tuesday & by then I had spent some £65+ between Friday & Monday on online purchases. I'll send you a more detailed email now & you can tell me what you think by return reply.

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I wonder if Paypal are having issues with a software update of some kind?

If they are anything like EBay - well enough said really.

They obviously won't broadcast this if they are.

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Have we had others making similar reports yet?


Mind I do think the entire paypal system is about to have a massive brain fart and drop off the planet.


I hate paypal.

:mad:

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I wonder if the PP UK is have an audit due to end of the year...or perhaps manual agents reviewing and causing issues - or some sort of security tripwire in the system that is auto-shutting down accounts

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Or all of the above?

It is Christmas.

I am sure they all know what they are doing.

:eek:

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Could this have anything to do with it?

LINK BELOW

Who knows? Patching security software to defend against hackers?

PayPal patches vulnerability that could have let an attacker hijack anyone's account (updated) | VentureBeat | Security | by Emil Protalinski

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We've now moved from thinking they're checking credit or info submitted to potential tech issues in their system... talk about theories people, lol :)

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With EBay or Paypal the first hurdle is to decide whether they are competent enough to know what they are doing lol.

:lol:

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I've just found some daming evidence to support this theory or it's a massive coincidence. I will post this evidence in the morning when I get on my computer see what you all think to it.

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I posted a link earlier in the thread if that's what you are referring to.

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Nope, I did read the link vaguely but will read it in full in the morning. It's just a series of emails I found in my junk folder just before each of my 3 accounts went down.

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Very Interesting.

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No, wrong premise.

They ARE the puppet master.

It's their moves we must interpret.

:mad:

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Late I know, someone make sense of this:

Received this email in my spam folder on the date / times shown. Looks like spam / scam mail but less than 12 hours later the account goes down. I've run a google search on the email address & can't find nothing.

Exactly the same thing happened on my other account.

from: service＠paypal.co.uk
to:

subject: Account Status Update

Deаr Customеr,

Wе arе lookіng іnto possiblе unusuаl аctivity оn yоur аccount.

Lоg іn yоur аccount аs ѕoon аs possiblе. We wіll аsk yоu tо confіrm thе іnformation іnitially providеd.
Tо hеlp protеct yоur аccount, аccess to receivіng monеy, sеnding monеy, linkіng a cаrd or lіnking a bаnk аccount hаs beеn temporаrily restrictеd.

Pleаse click this lіnk

Thе limitаtion wіll bе instаntly liftеd oncе yоu confіrm your detаils.

Yоurs Sincerеly,
Sеcurity Depаrtment


Limitation message when I log in 12 hours later:

Why is my account access limited?

Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s):

3 Dec 2014: For reasons relating to the safe use of the PayPal Service we need some more information about you and your account to help confirm your identity.