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Paypal ebay era at an end?
 

I have heard that paypal will be implementing cra checks on all accounts q1 next year .

What happens now in regards to paypal accounts ?

If we cant confirm identity to raise the £1900 limit what does this mean? I can't see around getting these checks, although it seems silly they they add using cra as not everyone is on the electron register and people are always moving address?

Will this mean the end?

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This whole 'heard' business is really annoying. It's like a chinese whisper.

There is info out there to support this but as of NOW, there is limited info as to WHY all of these accounts are going down.

Some say docs, others say credit checking....all theory unfortunately, so this thread will turn into yet another debate.

Highly doubt it will be the end!

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Well at least that's some positive news .

They are obviously doing something different now because the amount of accounts closing and not getting through the limits is crazy

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Yep security has defiantly gone up since 2 months ago but what change in the security system who knows.

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Will there be a sticky once its figured out ?

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They also understand that once they implement it there will be not many sellers left. Too much profit to loose..

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that is what I was thinking, if they lose a big proportion of stealth accs, it will make for alot less product choice, given paypal and on ebay are linked and need each other and the prices will go up as competition will go down....It could be good for the sellers left standing though.......ebay and paypal revenue will be affected.

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paypal and ebay are splitting and parting company in the future.

:ranger:

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I know but alot of the revenue that paypal will lose would be via ebay, and they are all linked around in a circle, paypal purges will create less revenue for paypal, and that is bad business...if I am running a business, I do not turn away paying customers......

.....business option paypals are something we should also discuss, what is the difference if any, between bans on account types.

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It's hard to believe they know how to eliminate stealth accounts but they don't because they don't want to loose revenue. I wonder how big the active stealth accounts on eBay, is it 10% or 50%+?
If your right than why are they always coming with new idiotic ways to catch stealth users? I bet they loose some revenue on the new necessary phone calls to prove your identity. Is it just to make it look like they care? Why would they keep increase their expenses on catching stealth accounts?
I think they don't want any stealth accounts even if they will loose huge amounts of money and eventually they will find a solution to the stealth problem, some new voice,finger,signature,document technology that will make us look for other sources of income.

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I think we will have a period where we just cant use accounts etc

I reckon ebay will have to implement another agency to use for their transactions

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Tough to make that sticky because PP constantly having changes

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seems stealth and paypal are also parting company :d

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paypal want your dna:amen:

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If stealth dies and many including myself rely on as a main and only income then UK unemployment will rise too next year.

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Is it that hard for you to believe that they will eventually figure out how to lower or even eliminate all stealth accounts?

If people opening their iphone using their finger, maybe somewhere in the future in some point of the registration to paypal they can ask for unique information that will significantly lower the amount of your stealth accounts.

What if paypal will sign a new agreements with banks that will allow paypal to see your bank information, someday it might happen like it already happened with few banks.

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By its' very nature, there will always be stealth. However, how practical or viable it may be for stealthers to circumnavigate Ebay/pp to achieve their goals is another matter.

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ratio is open 1 in every 100 created might just stay under the rador to bail out at £1600 until the following year.

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Well I guess we will have to give it a few months before we find out where its going , I guess there is no point in even buying anymore accounts now because the rate of closure is crazy, hope its not the end of ebay, my main income is from ebay

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This is the first time I've heard anything about cra checks.

Will this be on opening a seller account or only when we have reached our paypal limits?

To an extent they already check if you live at an address and is why we need to show them docs to raise our limits.

Or our we talking about something completely different...lol

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Something completely different.


Was mentioned in the different paypal T&S updates over the last year.

Numerous users have had permanent limitations on already verified accounts.

Look over the UK fourm and the paypal limited forum.

Many posts in them which expand on the issues.

:ranger:

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May of already started stealth's are going down fast nobody knows why:amen:

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I think for the time being its best just to sit tight and see what happens.

Its still very early days and too early to conclude whats happening/going to happen.

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Sellers on here are trying to keep us all calm and I cant blame them buts its a bit worrying to b honest

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Funny how it always comes back to 'sellers'...take some responsibility in general. It's not down to one individual or a group of individuals to address these issues, find solutions and post them to the world.

Just isn't going to happen.

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That's only your thoughts.

Preferable to not generalize.

:en:

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I wish it was only my thoughts or even dreams :clap:

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There is a lot of conjecture here, many assumptions and a boatload of rumors. What seems to be missing are specifics and facts.

Whenever PayPal makes changes, people panic. Remember the 1099-k issue? It was going to be the end of stealth - except that it wasn't. We shall figure this out. It may take a little time, but we will eventually find the workaround.

PayPal has to strike a balance. It has to be open enough so that people can easily conduct business, but not so open that every scam artist on earth takes advantage of it. So it is a balancing act.

I would only suggest that when posting about this issue, you stick to facts. Or at least make it clear when you are guessing about something. Because the first step in solving this problem is to separate facts from opinions, guesses and theories.

Many of us are working on this issue and we are NOT all selling accounts here. We do this both for ourselves and the community in general.

I will admit, this whole "registered phone number" thing is a puzzler, but we solve puzzles EVERY DAY! One thing I know for a fact is that in the US, there is NO central database of phone numbers and who they are registered to. Each carrier has their own, and many do not share. If there ever WAS such a database here, it went away long ago, when they broke up AT&T which used to be the only game in town when it came to phone service.

So, we must now figure out is what triggers this AND try to figure out how PayPal defines a "number registered in your name". What options do they give you once this has been triggered?

That would be my first question.

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Good post @ jeffweico. We will figure out how to solve this problem and get through it.

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Should we start a thread to each of are own findings ? I've found some new flags.

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where do we find these facts
What is the Difference Between "Reasoning" and "Guessing"?

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There are quite a few UK threads ongoing - go to that subsection and post your findings...or pm a moderator for opinion on whether to post or not

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vgood post jeffweico and I have stopped guessing and reading instead its best way forward

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Will there be a thread then with findings?

Perhaps one main thread rather than multiple threads?

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When you say something like "I got the PayPal message saying my phone was not registered in my name" and I am using a TracFone, those are facts.

When you say that "it happens because this is not a landline" then you are guessing. Because unless you work for PayPal or are INTIMATELY knowledgeable about the inner workings of the telecom system as a whole, you couldn't possibly know that for a fact.

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Hi

Anyone fwd me the link for the thread about this new phone registration verification? Have tried to look but cant find it on the uk threads...

Also, one of my account is registered to my name as normal with correct home address etc. When i reach the £1900 limit on this and they ask for verification do you think i will be asked to provide docs? Or will they use whatever database they use to pick up that im registered and not ask for docs? Is that the normal protocol?

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You will be asked for docs if you DOB is incorrect.

When you say 'new phone registration verification', which post are you referring to?

If you mean the phone call eBay will sometimes make to new sellers accounts, these have been going on for months. Its one reason having an active phone number is important.

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Hey

Any update on why these accounts have been getting random limitations applied on ppal?

Ive been ok so far, but want to prepare for the worst..so knowing what causing it will help!

Any feedback much appreciated.

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Seems credit checks are the cause and how to get round them ...well nobody's talking and all cards are held close to there chest
I am taking Christmas off eBay and see whats happening next year so relax like me

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I see so no new intel just yet?