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eBay Stealth Account Creation
 

Ok, so I haven't even begun to create a stealth account yet. I've just been reading the guide and browsing the forums to absorb as much info. as I can. It actually is more difficult than I would like it to be, but you gotta do what ya gotta do sometimes.. So I have the gist of it so far. The most difficult steps to me are creating the new name, mailing address, & working ph#.

For the new name I plan on using a variation of my name, but b/c of the PayPal limitation(200transactions/$20k) it seems like it would be best to register a DBA, so that I can avoid the SSN requirement later on(& just use EIN). It seems better long term, but at the same time will add more steps to the new account creation process. Does anyone know if I can simply register a DBA later on after starting off w/ a simple name variation??

For the mailing address I plan on using a P.O. Box address registered at USPS.

For the phone# I plan on getting a tracfone since people on the forums are advising against Google Voice.

For the bank account I plan on opening a new checking account w/ my current bank + use Entropay to create a VCC(for PP verification)

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Worry about EIN/DBA later once the account is up and going for a while, your steps sound about right but you forgot to mention a few important things like changing your ip address


Tons of info here

IP Address - eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums

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I did not mention IP address b/c that part should be pretty easy if I understand it correctly. Usually rebooting the gateway will cause the IP address to change.

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Not as simple as that if your going to be changing your ip each time you have to note it down in excel each time, otherwise you might use duplicate ips on multiple accounts

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I don't plan on using multiple accounts though. I just plan on making one solid stealth account and sticking with that unless I somehow get banned again.

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follow 123 advice on IP's. You look about set. now if you dont want 0/0 limits you should create browsing history, bidding history, simple purchases if you like. and then try to sell something LOW RISK.


its always a good idea to have BACKUPS. (rather than bring business to a HALT)

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Not a very good idea in my opinion, cause then if you get limited your back in square one again, you should have a bunch of stealth accounts and that way you dont have to rely just on one, also you may not be factoring in the low starting limits that you would likely be getting of 5/$500

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I agree, but I would then be doing too many things at once. I think that it should be considered while you are building up your first stealth account.

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For the address is it possible to start off w/ a random address and then change it to a PO Box address later w/o triggering any suspicion?

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Does anyone know if I can change the address later?

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Yes as long as your ready. Sometimes have to confirm registration phone number.

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Since eBay can track you via web beacons in Gmail wouldn't that mean I would have to turn off external images for all of my Gmail accounts since some I still use are associated w/ banned accounts + I plan on logging into them still but never re-logging into the old eBay account on this computer again after creation?

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Yes, always turn off external images no matter the email client.

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Ok, did not understand the security issue w/ leaving it on before. Guess learning stealth does have some use.

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I turned off external images for all my accounts but the images still load for previously read eBay emails... will this be a problem? Do I just avoid opening any previously read eBay emails while in stealth?

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Ok, I figured out that I had whitelisted them from way back when I had this setting on. I blacklisted them again and it works.

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Does anyone have any experience with Virtual Bank Accounts w/ stealth accounts?

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No not worth the potential trouble

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You have experience trying this before?

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Can you be more specific? What's your actual question?

Just FYI to all new members, beating around the bush only takes longer to answer questions, just ask your questions right off the back.

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I want to know why people don't mention using VBA's and instead open an actual bank account. Is there a disadvantage to VBA's to physical bank accounts for stealth?


Question 2.) Is eBay able to track you via web beacons in their own messaging system?

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VBAs are more prone to abuse and its always better to just have a real bank that you can actually withdraw to

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I don't know much about VBA's that's why I'm asking. The disadvantages I keep thinking about for a physical bank account are the monthly fees and the fact if I get banned again for some reason I would have a useless account. So I prefer not to open one but will if that's the best option.

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I have never used a random address - I at least make sure the address is valid/searchable...and I won't change address in the future

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How do you do this? Do you sign up for a PO box or what?

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You mean a valid/searchable random address...? That's basically what I meant when I said "random".

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Is it possible to use a VBA to get past bank verification and then use a real bank later once sales are going?

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Yes, that works.

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I'm changing my approach due to the fact I don't want to take all the time and expense setting up a pretty legit stealth account only to be banned again. I'm not a really heavy seller yet.

New name - variation of current name
Mailing Address - Random address within 50 miles of me
Phone# - Google Voice #
Bank Account - Will purchase a VBA
Credit Card - VCC via Entropay

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Don't forget a Bank Account to withdraw funds, not a VBA but real bank.

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I know - I will change it once I start rolling in some sales.

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I avoid that.

Been a lot of issues with ebay US and random addresses.

Even had the people living at the address contacting ebay.

Avoid that scenario. It is not wise stealth.

Try to be as real as you possibly can from the time of making the account.

I have done that with all my US accounts with success.

Good you are taking a careful approach to this new venture.

:ranger:

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Why would they contact eBay unless they received a return to their house?

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Quick question about cookies:

When you begin using a stealth account is it important to delete your cookies every time you log off? I think I remember reading somewhere that it was recommended you left them undeleted to create a cookie history w/ the account.

Images:

Can you upload images to stealth accnts or does it need to be on separate hosting?

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Ah ok - clearer - yes I use mailboxes...some buildings with suites too :)

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Cookies are very important, it's best to keep each account cookies separated.

Suggest you take separate pics, wipe the exif data off all of them.

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Ok, so I should leave the cookies undeleted when using stealth?

What do you mean take separate pics & how do you wipe the exif data? So, does that mean it is ok to use ebay hosting when uploading pics as long as it's not the same as the ones you used in the banned account?

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You dont need to touch cookies if you keep one account per Window user account.

Still keen on using Google voice?

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Yea I am, why?

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Would only use GV if you know how to add it properly otherwise you MAY be looking at a lot of 0/0 accounts. GV can be used but it's mentioned many a time to avoid. Tracfone is preferred