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The IP address problem...please help!
 

Hi - congratulations on a remarkable forum! It's the first time I've ever happily paid to be a member of anything without crying! :P

Sooooooooooo...the IP Problem here in UK? I've read eBay Stealth about six times in last two days but I'm still in a quandry as to what is the best method to mask my IP from eBay.

I intend to create around 5/6 new eBay seller accounts but I'm so confunsed as to how I can continually change my IP address between accounts. I work from a computer upstairs when the main router is downstairs (we have the same IP). The IP I am currently working from has been been pulled by PayPal (and subsequently eBay) because I refunded too many buyers in a period of 1 month (I refuse to send to unconfirmed addreses).

I have recently purchased a job lot of 10,000 T5 Slimming Pills. I was doing quite well selling them (making around £900-£1500 a week!)...until PayPal suspended me of course!

Now I'm biting back...lol. But I need some specific help on this IP problem. If I use a VPN then I could end up with an IP anywhere in UK and eBay will surely flag my account? I think proxy is a no-no from what I have read.

Help me if you can???

Also, I don't want to get in trouble for trying to recruit/advertise or anything but I am also willing to dropship for anyone willing to sell the slimming pills on. The more the merrier. I have 10,000 and a sale of 60 is around £25 on eBay (given the right marketing). I'll charge anyone interested £13 per 60 and even do the shipping! The more you sell the more we all make. Don't shoot me for asking...lol

Take care all...and once again great forum!

You don't want to mask your IP.. the only thing you can do is change it.

Have you tried changing your IP Address by unplugging your modem for a couple minutes and plugging it back in?

If you direct connect to your modem it would work a lot better. Because usually when a router is involved, you have to reset it as well, and even when you do that it's mac address can hang onto a certain IP Address.

I have several routers and I switch them out to get a new IP if I need it. I also use my IPhone tether connection for PayPal.

You can also try dialup, which is perfect for our needs.

Read more in this section: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-tracking/

Thanks Askpin,
I am looking at a dial up connection right now. Am I right in thinking that I can use the dial-up to register accounts and then use normal high-speed broadband to list items through Auctiva? Also, do you know if the likes of Orange and 02 have dynamic IP addresses on their Mobile Internet dongles? I was hoping I could put one of those into my comp? Dial up is perfect perhaps (even if a little slow) but I still would need to make sure that the IP address is not the same as any other accounts?!

I presume PayPal and eBay both need to be registered from the same IP?

I get every aspect of the Ebay Stealth guide...It's just a bit of bummer trying to figure out this IP problem. I have read on here that eBay 'doesn't like it' when we are accessing account from different IP addresses but with Dial-Up this is exactly what will be happening time and time again? Unless we just stick to Auctiva.

Sorry Askpin...

Thanks for you help

Nah, dial up is fine. Now if you access your account with a connection from another country, then that would be bad. Also be sure to setup user accounts on your comp, to keep flash objects and cookies intact.

And yes once you setup your eBay account, and link it to Auctiva.. you can work from Auctiva with your high speed connection. Just keep things separate and you'll be fine.

Excellent - so should I opt for a monthly Dial-Up plan or use someone like:
Broadband and Free PAYG internet access - inspiron

Is it just a matter of choice or is it 'safer' (stealth-wsie) to get a monthly plan?

the plan of your ISP makes no difference.

What do you mean by plan? Sorry :s

It wasn't that I was referring to - I was just wondering if I should use a separate website for their pay and go dial-up or whether I should have it myself?! I was just concerned that eBay may pick up on the fact that I was using an 0845 dial-up site (1p per minute). I think the only reason I ask is because the Dial-up is only needed to register accounts as we can use Braodband for the Auctiva uploading. I would need to install an extra phone line etc if I were to 'purchase' a dial-up modem rather than using a 'dial-up website'. Hope I'm making sense?

U wouldn't need to purchase an Xtra line Matt, just create all required ebay/pp accounts using dial up, once up and sorted, upload listings from auctiva having reconnected your broadband.

Thanks - but what method of Dial-Up would I need? It's all so confusing for me. I have no knowledge of anything but eBay it seems - lol. Thanks

Just sign up with any Matt, think i used orange, no contract as it's only dial up, seems a long winded approach your taking, but i've not had too create multiple accounts for a while.. i personally use BT with homehub, and IP easly changed by resetting router for 1 seconds or so..

Thanks for your help scouse - I'll give it a whirl. Have you had long success using the stealth method? How many accounts do you run? Any more help would be more than appreciated :)

Havn't lost an account for well over 12 months matt, but then again i don't do a lot wrong as far as ebay goes, stay well clear of Vero items (Branded Items)

Also check the latest prices on ebay for them pills, it looks like a lot of competition and you'll more than likely keep getting reported by the competition, so keep your listings completely clean.

Sounds impressive! Hope I can keep in touch with you. It's good to have someone in UK for help. If I have multiple accounts I can list fewer items on each one. I'm not isolating myself to those pills but it is a good little earner (while it lasts). I'm looking for other 'cleaner' products as we speak...

I really want to give it a go this time.

Have you had to provide passport details etc to PayPal in the last year? If so - how did you get on?

This time next year rodders...this time next year

There are other choices of ID should you ever need to supply them.

Some people forget to make use of the cellphone internet, i just have a unlimited package on my phone and with nokia's you can use it as modems. Everytime when i make a connection i get a new ip which is also in the region you life in.

Mattytman, I use AOL dial up for the same reasons and than I list my auctions through Auctiva. The only other thing you need to watch for is answering buyer's email. You can read them if forwarded to your Broadband connection email account, but don't get tempted to answer them from there. You would need to sign into your EBay account and this will send out your IP. Just a thought...........:ranger:

I asked this question a while back and Aspkin answered, if you have gmail you can press reply and it goes straight to questioning buyers email direct, without showing an IP to ebay or buyer.

Good to know, Thanks OOmpaloompa! ;)My Gmail email is not on any Ebay/PayPals and I don't sell that much as some guys here, so I don't mind getting into AOL dial up when I have to.

Oompaloompa, Yes that way works but doesn't it get quite confusing? If you are selling on just one Ebay account, it would work fine. But if you are using 2 or more and you use the reply method, doesn't it still say questions unanswered when you log in to your Ebay account? That would be extremely confusing and a lot harder for me. I would not remember who I replied to and who I didn't.

^^^BUT if you have multiple accounts, you have your trusty excel file where you note who you have dealt with: dealing with emails from buyers is a lot different from social exchanges.LOL.:typing:
Read the thread in the subscribers' area about having multiple sellers accounts. Cover yourself, simple as.:peace:

Yea, I guess that would work. I've always logged in to each account to answer questions. But I can see how, if you kept track of who you replied to in excel, it would make it a lot simpler. Thanks Greenbean! :thumb:

Yes, when you log in to ebay you find unanswered questions in red, because youve actually answered them direct.
plus side for answering direct to buyer from gmail is that you can avoid logging in and therefore can answer questions under say five different accounts under one IP without detection.

down side is many ebayers dont look at their email inbox they look for reply when logging in on ebay, so you might lose sales

GB what do you mean by covering yourself, why do you have to keep excel log of who you reply to, I run through all my emails on each account every day even if im not currently selling on them, if the email is in bold it needs answering, if its faded, its been looked at!, I also check to see if anyone wants a refund or any paypal issues or other issues every day on every email account, takes a while but I am thorough, if you dont look at each one you can get a shock when a buyer, has hit you with a Not as described because they got frustrated emailing for 3 days...

Quality control. It's part of the flow chart. The wam bam, thank you feedback thanks and do buy again.

hi just to join the conversation i just bought the stealth i understand everything to and almost understand everything about the ip address, i think? but if anyone can help i would be very greatfull - so i have a laptop with a wireless router (dongle) with t-mobile, if i press config on the computer or through my network conection when im contected i get an ip address, subnet etc... my ipv4 address changes everytime. But according to the stealth its my router ip address and not my true ip address,so just to check i connected to the net and went to ipburger.com and each time i conected it gave me the same ip address which was actualy infact different from my router (config, network connection) address so i aggreed that it was true. I now went into my network sharing centre and created a dial up conection with t-mobile when i went back to ipburger the address changed everytime the questions i have to ask is -

am i now set to open an ebay account?
does ebay know im using t-mobile and will they wonder why im using the dial up instead of the wireless connection?
if i get a new ip evertime i sign in will they think theres any funny going on?
also what is a DNS server and WIN server as these dont change at all? is that ok?

i would be greatfull if anybody could shead a light on this issue for me

youve checked how to get a new ip, youve done the correct thing. No, they dont think its odd, its normal

my t-mobile laptop is fixed ip, and havent worked out how to change it, but I only use for auctiva anyway. Thanks for info, might try it myself. great helpful post. I log in on muliple accounts and users on a changing dynamic ip on pc. like probably a 1000000 other ebayers!

dont know the last bit about servers, just know you must have a different ip than your suspended account, it doesnt matter if its fixed if you only have one new account, as long as ip is differnt from suspended, ok? I expect you know the other links eg. cookies and addresses

its just one ebay paypal you want right?Is this a new laptop, even better?

no its not new they banned me on it before, i want one account for now just to try out first but i want about 3 intotal 1 for buying and two for selling, but if i have two many i'll have to keep track of each ip for each account as any time i disconnect or get disconnected it changes (and my signals not the best) quite long winded, i dont want any of the ips to show up again on different accounts in order not to make a link.
I thought i read that you said if your creating a buyer account i can use the same address but different name - as i was suspended at this address about a year ago if i use the same address but different name will they think im the same person do i have to change the address slightly? or will the suspended address be ok for buying (dif name)? can i use it for selling at a later stage if i build up feedback or is the address banned for life for selling items,
- by the way if you go to the start menu and to your network - then click on network sharing centre- then set up a connection or network - set up a dial up connection, you can create a dial up (but i dont know how to delete it at a later stage if needed to, gonna ask t-mobile)

p.s my husband has a laptop but i logged into it a few weeks before i got suspended is the laptop a risk to use because of the ip or is it ok for use as well?

correct buying account can be in a variation that doesnt link you but gets the parcel to you, eg your address is B. Obama ,29 Comparethemeerkat road, RS22 4BD, put instead G. Brown, 29a Comparethemeerkat Road , RS22 4BB.
worked for me no probs for buying. Risky to sell on that account but can be done, just be aware that you may be flagged.

Some forumers log each and every IP on excel, I do not, I simply cant keep up with it, If youve got a dynamic IP ebay/paypal will see that and ignore changing ips, if you happen to end up on same ip either randomly or accidentally on seperate accounts, it will be a link, IP is not necessarily a problem , as you could get assigned the same ip as someone else or use same shared computer eg at work, ISP have a pool of IPs that they assign to users on a queue system. They will only look at linked ip accounts if one is suspended ,the other will not necessarily come down, unless there are similarities between them, obviously address, name, cookies, flash objects, similar goods etc.

regarding laptop, wasnt it you that knew how to change the ip on it? anyway test it with ip burger to see if it changes upon shutdown, if it doesnt dont log on under it, until youve got it to dynamic..and of course clean flash under adobe settings, do a pc cleaner wipe, even better set up a seperate user on it just for your ebay, away from hubbys stuff

:nerd:

Do not worry unduly about your dynamic IP, it is a bloody good asset.

i cant change it to another ip address that it would be fixed but i can only do dial up so it changes everytime i connect. My husbands one is fixed he hasnt changed hes so his ip will still be the same as when i logged into his computer a few weeks before i got banned he doesnt have an ebay account but do you they will have record of this?

i logged into my account through his laptop before i got banned not after the ban but i know ebay keep a record of ips, do you think i can still use his laptop since he doesnt have an ebay account

ok, get you, yes they have a log of the laptop static IP, dont go near it again

so what your saying is that if he decides one day that he wants to open his own account he needs to change his ip first , also do you know how i can change my mac address i got a list of routers with the stealth but i dont know or cant find the name of my router any help?

you are exactly correct re static ip

mac- not a clue, check posts and if not throw question out on the general forum.