| | | xXRockerStalexX | 08-11-2017 01:02 PM | help!! law enforcement message ebay i got this email from eBay... https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/GFbHazf.png
what do i do?! i followed the stealth guide.. listed one item which was an old CD and then got hit with this... my listing is still active but i literally cannot change or do anything with my account.. it just has an error page and buyers cant bid as someone said in a message it wont let them...
what triggered this and what can i do? i didnt use any real info... |
| oompaloompa | 08-12-2017 10:51 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay This is a brand new account? Just 1 cd, why would this be relevant to your acc? Have you given us all info, any other accounts in similar or same details? Could it be a link to prior accs.
Business or personal acc type?
Did you use an address that might have been used before by anyone else, did you just grab an address from phone Book?
What do you do? I would abandon account! |
| yankee | 08-12-2017 11:05 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Move on and dont list CDs |
| e2free | 08-15-2017 06:53 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay It's not eBay it's HMRC who asked eBay to restrict the account, maybe the address you used under interest of them |
| just_smile | 08-16-2017 03:57 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Assuming it's a legit email, just abandon the account.
It's obviously somehow linked to a bad account. |
Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Yikes, looks like your account is toast, start another |
| opaqueninja | 08-18-2017 12:20 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay I highly doubt HMRC are involved unless you are already under investigation for serious offences.
The fact that the OP hasnt come online since posing the questions, shows it was either a PayPal/EBay spoof, or he knows exactly what he has been up to and why the account was linked to his naughty one. |
| bigboy | 08-18-2017 09:07 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay is this real? |
| bigboy | 08-18-2017 09:09 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay if it is, then things are really changing for stealth. |
| opaqueninja | 08-19-2017 04:13 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Its an Ebay/PayPal employee spoof. |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 08:18 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by opaqueninja
(Post 866382)
Its an Ebay/PayPal employee spoof. | How can you be so sure?
There are many things changing from what ice read regarding Hmrc and ebay. This could be legit. |
Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Welcome to the forums - all the best as you master stealth :thumb: |
| opaqueninja | 08-19-2017 10:04 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
(Post 866400)
How can you be so sure?
There are many things changing from what ice read regarding Hmrc and ebay. This could be legit. | Don't be daft, but they are having a giggle at your fear in eBay towers! |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 10:55 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by opaqueninja
(Post 866418)
Don't be daft, but they are having a giggle at your fear in eBay towers! |
I'm being very serious, based on other Threads posted about hmrc, they've managed to figure stealth accounts out is what I honestly reckon. |
| opaqueninja | 08-19-2017 11:15 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
(Post 866423)
I'm being very serious, based on other Threads posted about hmrc, they've managed to figure stealth accounts out is what I honestly reckon. | Well, you go on thinking it and have a few sleepless nights that the HMRC are going to come knocking on your door and get your mum up in the middle of the night while they cart you off to prison. |
| yankee | 08-19-2017 01:12 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
(Post 866423)
I'm being very serious, based on other Threads posted about hmrc, they've managed to figure stealth accounts out is what I honestly reckon. | Stealth has nothing to do with ebay or paypal. We are breaking Ebay and Paypal policies ONLY. Ebay and paypal rules are not binding laws in any country.
:ranger: |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 01:33 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay exactly, hmrc shouldnt have any problems with it unless your doing this to get around paying your tax dues.
But if this email is legit then i guess all us UK stealthers need to re assess how we go about things.
theres a document id at the bottom, anyone googled it got any results or anything. |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 01:36 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by opaqueninja
(Post 866425)
Well, you go on thinking it and have a few sleepless nights that the HMRC are going to come knocking on your door and get your mum up in the middle of the night while they cart you off to prison. | my suspicions are based on the recent developments at hmrc, they now have access to paypal data, and sureley by now know who really owns each stealth paypal account through their bank account details. |
| yankee | 08-19-2017 01:37 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay What makes you think that IF this email is real that it has anything to do with stealth?!?!?!?
That is one huge assumption on your part. |
| oompaloompa | 08-19-2017 02:31 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay The most likely scenario is OP has chosen an address, probably business acc type, that is of interest to her majesty....that's all...
OP does not say but assumption it is on messages, not email and not a spoof, this is backed up with mention of error pages if logged in according to OP...
if we see a ton more of these threads on the forum, then it is time to change our thinking.... |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 02:58 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 866462)
The most likely scenario is OP has chosen an address, probably business acc type, that is of interest to her majesty....that's all...
OP does not say but assumption it is on messages, not email and not a spoof, this is backed up with mention of error pages if logged in according to OP...
if we see a ton more of these threads on the forum, then it is time to change our thinking.... | But what do you mean? An address that is of interest?
We've already learned some people are getting letters/ queries by Hmrc who don't operate eBay accounts, where some stealthers are using there address on an eBay account
I honestly think hmrc now know who's account is really who's through PayPal data.
Only time will tell it would be nice if op came back with more detail.
Can hmrc do this? Ask eBay to restrict an account? |
| oompaloompa | 08-19-2017 03:15 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
(Post 866466)
But what do you mean? An address that is of interest?
We've already learned some people are getting letters/ queries by Hmrc who don't operate eBay accounts, where some stealthers are using there address on an eBay account
I honestly think hmrc now know who's account is really who's through PayPal data.
Only time will tell it would be nice if op came back with more detail.
Can hmrc do this? Ask eBay to restrict an account? | If you have seen a stealth address forumer that has posted a similar thread, please link it here for us to view...
the prior reports, as I understand it, were on the tv news as well, and this was a separate issue, this was probably main real accounts, getting looked at for undeclared income, and anyone can look up sales for any user on ebay not just hmrc, so no data needs to be given over, and hmrc or anyone can look up acc sales speculatively...
when I say address of interest, I mean maybe the OP took an address that is already being looked at for hmrc reasons....
can hmrc ask for acc to be restricted? I presume so, I would say they are more powerful than any Institution out there...
what you are thinking, is that paypal has given hmrc your bank acc, and then
hmrc can trace that back to you? I think that is not likely - but possible |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 03:31 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay I recall reading a thread regarding a user who received a hmrc letter of some sort Asking for details of all the eBay accounts they use I can't seem to find it now unfortunately.
with the new PayPal data they have access to might just be possible. |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 03:33 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 866469)
the prior reports, as I understand it, were on the tv news as well, and this was a separate issue, this was probably main real accounts, getting looked at for undeclared income, and anyone can look up sales for any user on ebay not just hmrc, so no data needs to be given over, and hmrc or anyone can look up acc sales speculatively...
what you are thinking, is that paypal has given hmrc your bank acc, and then
hmrc can trace that back to you? I think that is not likely - but possible |
Can I ask what TV reports your referring to? |
| oompaloompa | 08-19-2017 03:46 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay so you are saying that in OP case, hmrc asked for this new users bank details, yet there was no sales history etc ....why would they pick on them?
....or that hmrc are working backwards, and have the bank acc for someone of interest, they lookup all their other bank accs , then they go to paypal and ask for a match to those bank accs?
what you say is possible, but think there is simple stuff that they can do, which would be like shooting fish in a barrel........I think stealth can protect you from that, as long as you do not grab a 'bad' address....
dunno, but remember something on tv and also mention of it on forum...
...I agree it is best not to rule anything out. |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 03:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 866474)
so you are saying that in OP case, hmrc asked for this new users bank details, yet there was no sales history etc ....why would they pick on them?
....or that hmrc are working backwards, and have the bank acc for someone of interest, they lookup all their other bank accs , then they go to paypal and ask for a match to those bank accs?
dunno, but remember something on tv and also mention of it on forum... | i can't be certain of anything,I'm just theorising here yhT they can find out who each stealth eBay PayPal belongs to only recently..somehow. Only time will tell.
Hmrc are only concerned with undeclared income or tax evaders, if you've paid the tax owed I don't see why they would have a problem with you. |
| opaqueninja | 08-19-2017 06:52 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay This thread is comedy gold and comedy fail :) |
| bjammin | 08-19-2017 07:01 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay As mentioned earlier, apparently there is no real problem here. OP has abandoned the post. |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 07:22 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bjammin
(Post 866495)
As mentioned earlier, apparently there is no real problem here. OP has abandoned the post. | funny thing is that the OP only registered on the date they posted the thread, seems a bit odd to master stealth in a short period of time. |
| bjammin | 08-19-2017 07:47 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Quote:
Originally Posted by bigboy
(Post 866500)
funny thing is that the OP only registered on the date they posted the thread, seems a bit odd to master stealth in a short period of time. | Lol, he is not the first to "master" stealth in one day and he will not be the last |
| bigboy | 08-19-2017 07:52 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay i think theres some substance to his post, he must have done something very naughty.
Its probably just a matter of time before hmrc catch up to him.
no one is ever fully stealth, bank accounts are connected to stealth paypals....this alone can help identify the individual.
i would have liked to know if he was declaring his ebay incoe or whether it was something else he was doing. |
| cool25 | 08-20-2017 03:51 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay What's your crime ? |
| zac2409 | 08-20-2017 05:11 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay I do know the answer to his issue and how he can possibly get around it, and it isn't by burying his head in the sand... |
| muzzie | 08-20-2017 05:23 PM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay Maybe OP has used some real docs for the acc, and doc owner got problems with IRS, so they sent their lucky letters everywhere they could? |
| xXRockerStalexX | 08-26-2017 07:40 AM | Re: help!! law enforcement message ebay UPDATE:
i received a further email 48 hours ago telling me that another person "under the same address" was linked to this account and the amount of similarities "cannot be unlinked" and now both accounts are restricted until they get further info from the enforcement agency who placed the request.. who is apparently HMRC according to support + email. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:38 PM. | |
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