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mtrc 02-21-2018 08:26 AM

VAT registration + Stealth
 
Hi,

From 1st August 2017 eBay started counting turnover of each ebay account and sending e-mails forcing sellers to register for VAT. If seller fail to do it, the account will be blocked in case of selling.

How are you dealing with this issue in case of stealth account? Are you trading below 85k or you have a way how to register for VAT using stealth data to keep selling?

Thanks

Ebayorbust 02-21-2018 10:08 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

How are you dealing with this issue in case of stealth account?
Stay under the VAT threshold on every account.

If you need to sell more, open more stealth accounts.

Pitdogrider 03-25-2018 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 902766)
Stay under the VAT threshold on every account.

If you need to sell more, open more stealth accounts.

I wish I'd have read this post before I received my "register for VAT in 30 days or we may limit your account"

13obby 03-25-2018 05:02 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Agree Ebayorbust more accounts spread sales the best way to tackle this.

Authority 03-25-2018 06:03 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
already discussed

https://www.aspkin.com/forums/uk-eba...id-change.html

Didnt know the date was 1st August though, so thats good info.

Authority 03-25-2018 06:06 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mtrc (Post 902753)
Hi,

From 1st August 2017 eBay started counting turnover of each ebay account and sending e-mails forcing sellers to register for VAT. If seller fail to do it, the account will be blocked in case of selling.

Thanks

Can you say where this is DEFINITIVELY suggested by eBay? The emails they sent out didnt say this would ACTUALLY happen, merely a suggest that they will.

Yes oppen more stealths etc etc, we all know that. However discussion how to workaround the number option is what is needed.

Pitdogrider 03-25-2018 07:08 AM

Like rat under water, anything for survival.
And as this is not as yet a common ocurance to have found a work around, possibly the answer is to add a vat number and change the ebay registered name and address to match. If it's accepted then lower the 12 months sales volume to around 70k and then remove the vat number.
Or leave it, add no vat number and take our chances!

Authority 03-25-2018 07:11 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitdogrider (Post 909907)
Like rat under water, anything for survival.
And as this is not as yet a common ocurance to have found a work around, possibly the answer is to add a vat number and change the ebay registered name and address to match. If it's accepted then lower the 12 months sales volume to around 70k and then remove the vat number.
Or leave it, add no vat number and take our chances!

Or provide a VAT exemption certificate - i think this is the best way.

e2free 03-25-2018 03:22 PM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Authority (Post 909908)
Or provide a VAT exemption certificate - i think this is the best way.

Asking trouble from hmrc to request exemption certificate they will keep eye on you

And eBay may not accept this
In the email they said they may limit account

Seems like they got push from hmrc and they simply doing what HMRC saying don't think they will suspend accounts for this

If this will be the case I am sure over 50% sellers will be banned

Authority 03-25-2018 03:55 PM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 909970)
Asking trouble from hmrc to request exemption certificate they will keep eye on you

And eBay may not accept this
In the email they said they may limit account

Seems like they got push from hmrc and they simply doing what HMRC saying don't think they will suspend accounts for this

If this will be the case I am sure over 50% sellers will be banned

I wouldnt be requesting anything from the HMRC, much like you, do request a DL from the DVLA to send to PayPal? :FF:

The law changed, so eBay reacted. But yes, lots of sellers will be banned, eBays profits are going to drop because of this, so itll be interesting to see how quickly they handle it.

From what I read today from a few sources, its actually the HMRC that 'push'the eBay department for sellers to be investigated. Ebay proudly commented they had removed 100 sellers - but in all fairness 100 in the Ebay pool is pretty small.

fernendo 02-18-2021 05:27 PM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 902766)
Stay under the VAT threshold on every account.

If you need to sell more, open more stealth accounts.

But wont you get a fine from HMRC if you havn't VAT registered? Obviously you can try to hide it from them too but they may end very badly.

lucy 03-18-2021 07:13 AM

Re: VAT registration + Stealth
 
If your accounts are under the VAT threshold you should be fine, like Ebsyorbust says open more seller accounts and spread


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