How do I operate going forward?

[CaptainHook]

So I've purchased four stealth accounts in my own name.

As I understand it, I shouldn't sell anything on ebay for the first 21 days, after that, start by selling small items and build your way up from there..

The items I sell in questions are mobile phones which sell for no less than £400 a quid a time, having to wait 21 days to start selling again is absolute nightmare but I guess it has to be done.

I just have a few questions.

I can easily sell £8000 worth of phones a week, should buy more than the 4 stealth ebay/paypal accounts I have to be on the safe side?

Can I use my own address on the stealth accounts for possible customer returns which happens to be the account I got perm limited from on paypal?

Can I use the stealth accounts to buy items to the delivery address my original paypal got perm limited?

Best way to cash out large amounts? Was thinking of buying giftcards from like PC World/Curry's and selling them 50 quid less than their value?

Would loading money onto my betting account than withdrawing it that way raise flags?

Can I add my own personal bank card to these stealth accounts or will it cause issues due to the address being completely different?

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

Have created a user account on my computer for each account and have purchased a three mifi as I believe previous comments on here has lead me to believe they have a greater pool of Fresh IP's to operate from.

[e2free]

First of all selling mobile phones are very risky item and on New accounts it's impossible to sell those

Even after 21 days your account will be blocked specially PayPal

You need to run them for many months before you get trust from ebay or PayPal
Best to ask seller of these accounts who sold you

[GreenBean]

You got accounts in your own name? From here or somewhere else?

Was that name previously suspended?

[CaptainHook]

Originally Posted by e2free

First of all selling mobile phones are very risky item and on New accounts it's impossible to sell those

Even after 21 days your account will be blocked specially PayPal

You need to run them for many months before you get trust from ebay or PayPal
Best to ask seller of these accounts who sold you

Yeah I know, it's just I'm loosing out quite a lot of money not selling for the past month, having to wait a few months is too long.

Originally Posted by GreenBean

You got accounts in your own name? From here or somewhere else?

Was that name previously suspended?

yeah, I bought them from the marketplace but I requested them to be in my own name instead of random name so peace of mind if it get's limited.

Only issue is the addresses on them.

[e2free]

Are these new or used?

Try Amazon as don't think you will able to sell them on ebay

You need old accounts with good sale history to sell these types of items

[CaptainHook]

I don't think ebay is the issue, I had an account that few months old, didn't sell anything only bought 6 items, l sold a few of these phones and had that account suspension thing where they required invoices, proof of id, provided ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice, real id, they were happy enough. Account still going.

The eBay and paypal's are new accounts.

[e2free]

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

I don't think ebay is the issue, I had an account that few months old, didn't sell anything only bought 6 items, l sold a few of these phones and had that account suspension thing where they required invoices, proof of id, provided ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice, real id, they were happy enough. Account still going.

The eBay and paypal's are new accounts.

Well eBay is not hard but PayPal is quite strict

The phones you selling New or used ?

[rsot]

@CaptainHook, do you verify the PP with banks beforehand? Or how do you setup your paypal accounts?

Selling phones and electronics are always risky - it's a really tough market, sadly

[CaptainHook]

Originally Posted by e2free

Well eBay is not hard but PayPal is quite strict

The phones you selling New or used ?

Yeah, brand new phones.

[CaptainHook]

Originally Posted by rsot

@CaptainHook, do you verify the PP with banks beforehand? Or how do you setup your paypal accounts?

Selling phones and electronics are always risky - it's a really tough market, sadly

I bought the accounts off a forum seller so I don't know the process.

The accounts completely different address,

only issue is, date of births completely different, hopefully isn't an issue if I get perm banned.

[JamesNorth101]

Selling a brand new phone is always going to be high risk

Its always better to sell some lower value lower risk items first to build up trust with eBay and PayPal as a seller

[data.biz]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Selling a brand new phone is always going to be high risk

Its always better to sell some lower value lower risk items first to build up trust with eBay and PayPal as a seller

How long would it take for someone to start selling mobiles phones? Approximate timeline?

[jdbutler331]

I sell custom PCs and mobile phones that I have restored from previously damaged. Couldn't get anymore high risk. What has worked for me is to EXPECT to get limited and just send them what they ask for. 9 out of 10 of my accounts get restored after 2/3 days.

ALWAYS use your real name and date of birth. They will inevitably ask you to send proof of ID and that is something you cannot risk as verification is done by real people in a back office. They just look at your documents and make a yes or no decision and will never bother you again after that. I have LITERALLY been on the phone with customer services who put me on hold to check my documents. As far as I know my ID doesn't get put into some sort of face detection database where if it pops up again alarm bells with ring.. but either way I change the file name to a random sequence each time e.g. IMG0050. Worst case scenario I will say I lost my ID and someone must be using it to create accounts.

Never been linked by name.. imagine how many people with a common name e.g. Paul Smith that are coincidentally born on the same day.

As for address, invoice etc I get creative as they accept pdf files and online statement screenshots

[e2free]

Originally Posted by jdbutler331

I sell custom PCs and mobile phones that I have restored from previously damaged. Couldn't get anymore high risk. What has worked for me is to EXPECT to get limited and just send them what they ask for. 9 out of 10 of my accounts get restored after 2/3 days.

ALWAYS use your real name and date of birth. They will inevitably ask you to send proof of ID and that is something you cannot risk as verification is done by real people in a back office. They just look at your documents and make a yes or no decision and will never bother you again after that. I have LITERALLY been on the phone with customer services who put me on hold to check my documents. As far as I know my ID doesn't get put into some sort of face detection database where if it pops up again alarm bells with ring.. but either way I change the file name to a random sequence each time e.g. IMG0050. Worst case scenario I will say I lost my ID and someone must be using it to create accounts.

Never been linked by name.. imagine how many people with a common name e.g. Paul Smith that are coincidentally born on the same day.

As for address, invoice etc I get creative as they accept pdf files and online statement screenshots

So you meant to say you been using same id on number of accounts which has same name and date of birth and address is different ?

How many accounts you got with same name and date of birth ?

Seems something new as they not linking you

[jdbutler331]

Originally Posted by e2free

So you meant to say you been using same id on number of accounts which has same name and date of birth and address is different ?

How many accounts you got with same name and date of birth ?

Seems something new as they not linking you

I've got over 20 accounts with the same name and date of birth and used same ID for all of them. Assuming they do not use any linking method for photo ID as it's worked with me for years