| |  | | | Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 05:31 PM | Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Okay so I haven't posted or been up to date with this forum for at least a good year or two. This may be old news and has been known on here for years or it could be something new. It happened to me for the first time today.
4 weeks ago one of my stronger eBay stores (Over 10,000 feedback) had some listings taken down and was given a temporary restriction for 30 days, it states I wasn't allowed to revise or list new items until after the 30 days.
I've seen this message before so I leave the store alone and don't list anything else. However curiousity got the better of me and 2 weeks later I decided to try and revise one of my listings that had run out. To my surprise it worked. Now I have tried to do this in the past only to be greeted with the "your account is restricted" message.
I haven't tried this with a low feedback store so I'm not sure if it's the same story.
So does anyone know why I was able to list on more despite doing this way before the 30 days? Has eBay become more lenient? I'm not complaining, I just hope it becomes easier for us all. |
| slokor | 03-24-2019 05:37 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? NO theyre not more lenient.
Might be a glitch. Might be that they didn't apply the restriction properly. Might be anything.
BUT - what I DO know for certain is that if they find out you broke the regulations again and while on a restriction period no less - you will lose the account.
Is it realy worth it when you say you have other accounts to pick up the slack? |
| james_112233 | 03-24-2019 05:41 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ? |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 05:47 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 988584)
NO theyre not more lenient.
Might be a glitch. Might be that they didn't apply the restriction properly. Might be anything.
BUT - what I DO know for certain is that if they find out you broke the regulations again and while on a restriction period no less - you will lose the account.
Is it realy worth it when you say you have other accounts to pick up the slack? | I see, that's got me slightly more worried but can't I just put it down to negligence if they close my account? Surely it's not my fault if I am able to relist an item when it should be locked off.
I hear stories of reputable stores being able to take more hits like this and surviving when compared to smaller stores.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing I have? I understand glitches happen but is there a slight chance that eBay is somehow loosening that grip as Amazon is slowly taking over? |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 05:48 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988586)
Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ? | That's correct yes. Over 10k feedback, not top rated. |
| slokor | 03-24-2019 05:52 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Be Back
(Post 988588)
I see, that's got me slightly more worried but can't I just put it down to negligence if they close my account? Surely it's not my fault if I am able to relist an item when it should be locked off.
I hear stories of reputable stores being able to take more hits like this and surviving when compared to smaller stores.
Has anyone else experienced the same thing I have? I understand glitches happen but is there a slight chance that eBay is somehow loosening that grip as Amazon is slowly taking over? | Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 06:14 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 988590)
Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account. | Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 988590)
Are you trying to convince me? or yourself?
Cause its ebay that need convincing and unfortunately they don't take kindly to people breaking their rules and no amount of convincing works in most cases.
Stop guessing and stop taking chances - unless you have no issues with losing the account. | I completely understand and I think that taking risks when it comes to stealthing is dangerous. I know that we are all trying to run a tight ship here but I have done some unconventional things. I had a listing taken off years ago, my product featured a celebrities name in the listing title. I contacted eBay via live chat and asked what if I gave it as a free item along with something else. They told me that it was a great business idea and allowed me to list it back on!
Also calling up to request more listings is advised against on here. However I have done this to a few of my stores and they are still live and kicking till this day. I am not recommending any of this but giving you some of my practices which I risked myself to say that it can be done.
Again I haven't been on this forum in a long time. I was merely seeing if anyone else knew of this and you have told me it was a glitch perhaps. I will chalk it down to that and consider myself either stupid or lucky. |
| james_112233 | 03-24-2019 06:33 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?
I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 07:20 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988596)
How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?
I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though. | The store is 5 years old and throughout the years it has been through several offenses. I agree that eBay let's things slide. There are much bigger stores than mine that I'm sure are taking huge hits and come back swinging. I will note this incident down as a glitch but if something like this ever happens again to any of my other stores then there's definitely something up. |
| yankee | 03-24-2019 07:25 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? On my big accounts, any notice or restriction is just that, a notice. I can always still list, revise etc..... Sloker is wrong on this one. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 07:30 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 988610)
On my big accounts, any notice or restriction is just that, a notice. I can always still list, revise etc..... Sloker is wrong on this one. | Thank you for your input. Have you tried to relist on your smaller accounts after a similar message?
Clearly it sounds like the restriction notice is for eBay to cover their own back whilst letting the big sellers continue to sell.
How long have you been aware of this exploit as I have just figured this out.
Thanks |
| degsey69 | 03-24-2019 08:06 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? I have had the same happen to me when a 30 day restriction was imposed, it still let me do new listings. Usually when you are under restriction you can edit existing listings or close them.
As a matter of interest a 30 day restriction usually is implemented after getting a 7 and then a 14 day one and you keep getting vero, copyright, trademark complaints. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-24-2019 08:11 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by degsey69
(Post 988625)
I have had the same happen to me when a 30 day restriction was imposed, it still let me do new listings. Usually when you are under restriction you can edit existing listings or close them.
As a matter of interest a 30 day restriction usually is implemented after getting a 7 and then a 14 day one and you keep getting vero, copyright, trademark complaints. | Thank you. So is it normal that you are able to relist and revise items during the restriction period? The message from eBay does state that you are unable to revise or relist which is true for my smaller stores.
I haven't had a vero complaint for my big store for a long while now and thought it would have been reset. |
| yankee | 03-25-2019 09:24 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Be Back
(Post 988611)
Thank you for your input. Have you tried to relist on your smaller accounts after a similar message?
Clearly it sounds like the restriction notice is for eBay to cover their own back whilst letting the big sellers continue to sell.
How long have you been aware of this exploit as I have just figured this out.
Thanks | It has been happening for at least a decade.
If you keep on getting the warning, eventually you wont be able to list new items but you can still edit listings. The last account I pressed with it was with vero warnings 38 notices of 30 day temporary suspensions until I was not able to list new items. That was two years ago. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 10:30 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988596)
How many years old is your stealth account with 10k fb ?
I agree about being able to get away with certain things. Ebay do let things slide with big / trusted sellers. Depends on the offense though. | Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988596)
Is that a stealth account with over 10k feedback ? |
Why they hell are you so obsessed with a stealth account having 10k feedback? lol
Stealth, done right, has no end in sight. |
| james_112233 | 03-25-2019 11:02 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 988754)
Why they hell are you so obsessed with a stealth account having 10k feedback? lol
Stealth, done right, has no end in sight. | Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.
I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 11:09 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988764)
Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.
I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth. | You can.
(depending on what kind of business you are running) |
| yankee | 03-25-2019 11:26 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? 10k feedback is a piss-hole in the snow. A good stealth account selling a good in demand product can easily get several thousand feedback a month.
Stealth is no different than a real business account. Literally, it is exactly the same as a regular business account. I dont even consider them stealth. They are just accounts.... |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 11:30 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Interesting phrase lol |
| Ill Be Back | 03-25-2019 04:23 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988764)
Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.
I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth. | As the other users have said 10k feedback isn't that high depending on what you sell. I will say that with some of my stores I called up to increase my listings. I've done this and have gained at least an extra 20,000 listings. I'm up to 80,000 listings now which is enough for me.
Also I'd like to add that I work from home. If I can reach this amount in a few years then I'm sure you can do it in much less. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-25-2019 04:32 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 988736)
It has been happening for at least a decade.
If you keep on getting the warning, eventually you wont be able to list new items but you can still edit listings. The last account I pressed with it was with vero warnings 38 notices of 30 day temporary suspensions until I was not able to list new items. That was two years ago. | Thanks Yankee, at least a decade hey!! Do you have any ideas of why they allow these types of stores to get away with it? Also do the violations get reset after a long while. I mean getting a 30 day restriction surely means that I've pushed it by now. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 05:11 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Be Back
(Post 988879)
I'm up to 80,000 listings now which is enough for me.
| Ya reckon?! lol |
| Ill Be Back | 03-25-2019 05:20 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 988888)
Ya reckon?! lol | Haha funny thing is I can't tell whether you think that 80,000 is actually not enough or that it's a huge amount for anyone =P
Nonetheless more is always better :) |
| james_112233 | 03-25-2019 05:21 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Are you dropshipping then ? |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 05:29 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Be Back
(Post 988896)
Haha funny thing is I can't tell whether you think that 80,000 is actually not enough or that it's a huge amount for anyone =P
Nonetheless more is always better :) | I'm saying who in the phuck needs 80,000 listings? lol |
| Ill Be Back | 03-25-2019 05:31 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988897)
Are you dropshipping then ? | Not at the moment but I am considering it in the future. A year ago I decided to sell cheaper items so that I sold more volume. I do want to sell less and make more though. |
| Ill Be Back | 03-25-2019 05:32 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 988899)
I'm saying who in the phuck needs 80,000 listings? lol | Haha that's very true!! You might be surprised, some people sell with loads of variations. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-25-2019 05:45 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? I guess it could add up. |
Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ill Be Back
(Post 988901)
Not at the moment but I am considering it in the future. A year ago I decided to sell cheaper items so that I sold more volume. I do want to sell less and make more though. | Spread sales over multiple accounts |
| Ill Be Back | 03-26-2019 05:59 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 988923)
Spread sales over multiple accounts | Yeah I am using a few accounts to spread sales. The problem is when I have too many stores it gets a bit trivial and hard to manage. I used to have 10 stores and couldn't get to the resolution centre in time for some of them so eventually they got restricted. It was my own fault though. If only there's a way to make it easier to manage multiple stores. |
| Pandoras_box | 03-29-2019 05:14 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? You have 10,000 feedback and 80,000 listings but you aren't dropshipping.
No one knows where you keep your stock of 80,000 items assuming you have one item per listing.
You haven't sold up to £100,000, aren't VAT registered. You don't do bookkeeping or keep accounts. You do not have an accountant and haven't paid any taxes.
You work from home but you drop off your sales on your way to work.
I have an interesting fact for you.
Did you know that a dung beetle can bury bullshi*t 250 times heavier than itself in one night? Many dung beetles, known as rollers, roll bullshi*t into round balls, which gets bigger and bigger...
Just saying. |
| james_112233 | 03-30-2019 07:05 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 990018)
You have 10,000 feedback and 80,000 listings but you aren't dropshipping.
No one knows where you keep your stock of 80,000 items assuming you have one item per listing.
You haven't sold up to £100,000, aren't VAT registered. You don't do bookkeeping or keep accounts. You do not have an accountant and haven't paid any taxes.
You work from home but you drop off your sales on your way to work. I have an interesting fact for you.
Did you know that a dung beetle can bury bullshi*t 250 times heavier than itself in one night? Many dung beetles, known as rollers, roll bullshi*t into round balls, which gets bigger and bigger...
Just saying. | I swear to you, i just PROJECTILE spat my tea out reading that! haha:lol::lol: |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-30-2019 11:05 AM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: |
| Ill Be Back | 04-04-2019 01:35 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 990018)
You have 10,000 feedback and 80,000 listings but you aren't dropshipping.
No one knows where you keep your stock of 80,000 items assuming you have one item per listing.
You haven't sold up to £100,000, aren't VAT registered. You don't do bookkeeping or keep accounts. You do not have an accountant and haven't paid any taxes.
You work from home but you drop off your sales on your way to work.
I have an interesting fact for you.
Did you know that a dung beetle can bury bullshi*t 250 times heavier than itself in one night? Many dung beetles, known as rollers, roll bullshi*t into round balls, which gets bigger and bigger...
Just saying. | Lol Firstly I will start by saying I have no reason to lie, there aren't any bragging rights for saying "ohhhh I have 1 millions listings etc" Secondly I didn't say that I had 80,000 (active listings) I merely mentioned that I have up to 80,000 listings, most of which are unused.
10,000 feedback isn't that much considering it's taken me a good few years to reach this amount. I sell cheap products in volume so it's not making me a life changing amount of money.
I've mentioned in other posts that I regularly call up eBay to increase my listings which has worked so far.
As much as I love this forum I do find that a lot of people on here seem to be negative, overly meticulous and stubborn. We're suppose to learn from each other but for some reason it seems like people just want to catch someone out for doing nothing wrong?? |
| Ill Be Back | 04-04-2019 01:47 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandoras_box
(Post 990018)
You have 10,000 feedback and 80,000 listings but you aren't dropshipping.
No one knows where you keep your stock of 80,000 items assuming you have one item per listing.
You haven't sold up to £100,000, aren't VAT registered. You don't do bookkeeping or keep accounts. You do not have an accountant and haven't paid any taxes.
You work from home but you drop off your sales on your way to work.
I have an interesting fact for you.
Did you know that a dung beetle can bury bullshi*t 250 times heavier than itself in one night? Many dung beetles, known as rollers, roll bullshi*t into round balls, which gets bigger and bigger...
Just saying. | Furthermore I was trying to bring awareness with my post to educate you guys. I mean had someone posted about a thread about this years ago, saying that the big stores can still list on items after receiving a restriction and being able to take some hits without getting as many consequences as much as a lower store it would have motivated me more.
In the past I posted a thread about an unlimited listings glitch that I still believe is working today. It's not a great way of gaining exposure for products but it does work. I got flamed for that lol
Awareness was what I was aiming for but if that's the sort of responses I get then I'll just keep all my findings to myself from now on |
| JamesNorth101 | 04-05-2019 01:43 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 988764)
Because it's only been 3-4 weeks since I was banned from ebay for life.
I am not convinced I can get back to the level I was via stealth. | You can easily, but it takes work and patients.
Having one account with lots of FB is great, but having 10 with 1/10th of the feedback and you will find that you make a lot more money. |
| Ill Be Back | 04-07-2019 05:17 PM | Re: Immunity on high feedback/reputable eBay stores? Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 992017)
You can easily, but it takes work and patients.
Having one account with lots of FB is great, but having 10 with 1/10th of the feedback and you will find that you make a lot more money. | Hi James,
Is there any particular reason for this? I always thought that a store with higher feedback had more of a chance of getting a sale as the bigger store has 1) More listings to be able to capture a wider audience 2) More trust with buyers | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:46 AM. | |
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