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Re: Becoming close to impossible to open new accounts
 

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

Re: Becoming close to impossible to open new accounts
 

Yes - sometimes reaching a different agent does lead to different results :thumb:

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I don't do half the stuff you do to create accounts and mine are all ok.

I use a dongle to create EB and PP accounts. Where I live though is impossible to use one so have to go into town to do this. After they have been running a while, I switch to a VPN.

I have gathered a few laptops over the years and have accounts spread over them each with its own user account.

I use vodafone sims as they are free and don't need to be topped up to use. Pop into a phone and ready to go. All codes come through without a problem. Keep the sim safe and occassionally call it to keep it active.

My addresses are all real addresses.

Gmail has images disabled.

I do sometimes use a gift card on both the PP and EB account and will use that as preferred payment on the EB. I pay the fees with a one time payment from the PP. I link them straight away. The gift card balance gets used to pay for shipping.

I use a saver on the PP.

This works for me and have never had the problems others appear to have.

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You've worked it out so well done to you

It's good to read a post that does not say 'it cannot be my VPN,VM, VCC as I know they are all good':thumb:

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Quite frankly I've been deliberately sharing IP addresses across multiple accounts now just because I thought these accounts were prone to being banned anyway as they are old ebays with new paypals attached (which is against stealth methods). To date nothing has happened. I have been in touch with customer services multiple times to sort out issues with some dodgy buyers etc and they have been sorted without any mention of my accounts being linked!

I think the ebay bots are most intense on account creation, after many months / years of consistent trading and doing well on ebays platform. They don't care anymore as you have proved yourself worthy of their "community"

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Problem for me is most of the sellers here sell UK accounts, i had to go elsewhere to find USA accounts with sales, which i find sad tbh.

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IP address issues and VeePeeN are one of the biggest lies perpetuated on the forum, just follow the money and the you find the truth

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Bad IPs do cause limitations...

Its a black and white fact.

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Very helpful, thank you, I shall change my method

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There's no guarantee it will work as the last time I made an account was 3 months ago. Things can change pretty quickly with EB.

I forgot to add that I never create personal accounts, just business.

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simple as 2+2.. there no other options.
btw.. i've got strong feelings the forum is flooded by eBay, PayPal employees sniffing around.. that's all it is..

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Is John Doe going to wait 30 days to list an item? no? so why should we? a normal person does not wait that long to list an item, in reality, they're listing it straight away after registering so it's clearly something else that is triggering the suspension and not that you decided to list straight away.

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Exactly - do people seriously believe that Ebay policy is to suspend all new accounts?

For heavens sake people get a grip of yourself and face reality

Your accounts are getting suspended because you are not 'ordinary'

By that I mean the little tricks that you do to deceive Ebay trust and security have all been worked out

Everyone nowadays has some sort of social media presence - where is yours when you use a random generated name and address?

Every credit card can be tracked to its issuer

Every mobile connection can be tracked to the mast it transmits from

Every IP can be tracked to within a certain distance of your location

When Joe Soap creates an account trust and security can see that his connection is from the nearest mast to the address he has given

Or his IP comes from BT, Plusnet, Sky or any one of the other internet providers - not hidden behind a VPN.

They only have to Google his name and within 5 minutes they have his Facebook page, his twitter account and his instagram account- your random generated name has none of these

Does your random generated name appear on the voters roll?

Does your random generated name appear in a credit search?

If you name could not buy a phone on monthly credit why should Ebay believe you are genuine?

When Joe Soap creates an account he does not get suspended

When they suspend your account it is because something is not 'quite right' and so they give you an opportunity to convince them that you are good to go.

That's the so called 'first suspension'.

You failed to pass muster so now they are looking at you and giving you the opportunity to convince them you are real

Most fail at this stage

After that your account will be scutinised on a fairly regular basis until they are sure you are a good chap or chapess who will play by their rules and make them money

Meanwhile, boring old Joe Soap just keeps on selling

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I feel like this is really good advice and Most people aren't aware of the systems in which we live,They live in the moment and most likely not get suspended cause they apart of the system and the ones who think they are stealthy or cocky get the suspensions.
Once the ban hammer hits, now you have to be aware of the system and blend in.

Kind of like covid19 pandemic, its a scam, and everyone is losing their freedom without even realizing it. Same goes for ebay , it has has a motive and knowing the motive is key.
The key is it wants actual people that are part of the system.

use no way as way, to have no limitation as limitation

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Couldn't have said this better myself.

The majority of what you have said, if one ticks those boxes I can't see why ebay will suspend you. Do the background work first before creating an account. The days of randomly made accounts with minimal work are gone. They have upped their security.

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My auntie passed away from covid-19 2 weeks ago. It's most definitely not a 'scam'. Stay home, save lives. Don't be a covi-idiot.

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Condolences bud :eek:

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been awhile since I've made an account, but it was pretty difficult 5 months ago still had some accounts work out :)

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The covid19 pandemic is a scam as for covid19 its definitely a strain of the corona virus so it's a real flu. For example they are find most people who die from it have 2-3 other health problems, did she have any other health problems?

Either way I'm sorry for your loss.

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So basically you're saying that anyone who doesn't heed the government's advice is an "cov-idiot".

My great Aunt also probably died with it a few weeks ago, but i'm not lecturing anyone with regard to how they live their lives during this epidemic.

Don't be an Asp-idiot

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Your a live example of the category of people I was previously talking about.
Congrats

Why make a statement with that keyboard ego but fail to type an explanation.

The 1% , the governments are moving behind the scenes .. Bill Gates is even involved heavily...

Besides the virus is a waste of time to talk about when I have accounts to create :)
But hopefully as you gain more experience on forums, its best to actually enlighten people instead of making a statement of rejection.

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My way was always to age them, and buy on them first for months. When stuff gets 'delivered' with tracking, you are real as a real person. I think some of the points given are taking it too far like social media presence.......stealth after all is not a real person, it cannot have all the same qualities....The points about the IP are true, real IP better. Real card good. Use your real zip, use an address from your own street, works.

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Very good post, the little things that people don't think matter, do in fact matter. Will make some changes myself.

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There is a possibility that they do in fact check the electoral role or something similar, but if this was the case for all new accounts, all stealth accounts we make would be suspended as 95% of us are using randomly generated names and random address so it doesn't make sense that some accounts survive if they do in fact check.

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I'm not sure which mobile provider you're using but I personally use Three and recently I've had ips in neighbouring towns that are roughly 15-25 miles away, atleast that's what multiple ip lookup location websites tell me that my ip is showing a specific town about 15-25 miles away so I have even tried to make accounts in that specific town.

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Vodaphone sent me 10 sims recently and they can't receive sms or calls, the older Vodaphone sims work fine.

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Virtual Machine is the issue. The likelihood of getting suspended by using virtual machine is very high.

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Yes I am. I meant I looked up the ip I was given by three on multiple different websites that supposedly tell you rough estimate of the town it will show geographically as an IP which is also the same town ebay will see if i'm thinking right. It's normal that if you live in Manchester, the mobile data ip three is going to give you will show the location as Manchester or a nearby town, definitely not London or halfway across the country.

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Reinstatement via livechat is really really low and from my experience, even the accounts that get reinstated are simply going to be resuspended after you list the item again. Do let us know whether this is the case for you or not.

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Lmao you pointed out such a small fact I thought you were correcting the scam part
Yes its a virus but its symptoms are flu like.
If you happen to have that strain of corona virus, most of the strains aren't even close to
deadly. Lol

I'm surprised you found such a technical error in what I said, thanks
Its kind of a common thing to call it, but people who are the sheep care about it

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https://www.iplocation.net/ shows three locations.
While using three, the 2nd or 3rd Ip is usually London, however the first site is usually a location that is near you within 20-30 miles max I would say.

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So does the location of the address matter? should it be close to you or does it not matter since the ip location is completely different?

Re: Becoming close to impossible to open new accounts
 

James North just msged you

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So I opened 2 accounta, both were suspended got the harm email. One got suspended again within 24 hours. And the other is still going strong selling stuff there daily. Which is interesting....