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indielad 01-20-2021 02:15 PM

customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
I have not been charged any VAT or import duty on my first consignment of orders from China. The courier is Fed EX and normally I get a VAT quoting the tax needed to pay before the parcel has even arrived. Has import duty been removed or changed from China to the UK?

Hank 01-20-2021 02:41 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Expect a bill in the post.

quest 01-20-2021 03:03 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indielad (Post 1137492)
I have not been charged any VAT or import duty on my first consignment of orders from China. The courier is Fed EX and normally I get a VAT quoting the tax needed to pay before the parcel has even arrived. Has import duty been removed or changed from China to the UK?

Maybe it was shipped with prepaid VAT and customs duties

indielad 01-20-2021 03:54 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
I saw that another importer has not been charged, also I've seen reports that some none EU tariffs have been liberalised after Brexit meaning brought down to zero, but I can't get definite information either way without wading through thousands of pages of guff.

Hank 01-20-2021 03:59 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Nothing has changed, other than the modest gift allowance has been scrapped meaning there are now no allowances.

Some places like Aliexpress have from 1st January started charging VAT on sales on some orders, smaller ones it seems.

All my Fedex orders are followed by a VAT/Duty invoice.

e2free 01-20-2021 04:44 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Yes vat system is changed you will get bill from Hmrc and you needs to declare in your next vat return, they basically removed the vat at the port or airport entry and business needs to add this into their vat returns

Hank 01-20-2021 05:02 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1137527)
Yes vat system is changed you will get bill from Hmrc and you needs to declare in your next vat return, they basically removed the vat at the port or airport entry and business needs to add this into their vat returns

What is being removed upon entry? I don't pay any VAT to my supplier?

Given there are no gift allowances any more, does that mean every importation, even personal wares, will be assessed for VAT and a bill sent by HMRC? (That's simply not going to happen.)

What about businesses who are not VAT registered?

Will Fedex, UPS, Parcelforce etc no longer be collecting VAT and Duty on behalf of HMRC?

I wonder what will happen if folk do not respond to these HMRC demands?

indielad 01-20-2021 06:15 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1137527)
Yes vat system is changed you will get bill from Hmrc and you needs to declare in your next vat return, they basically removed the vat at the port or airport entry and business needs to add this into their vat returns

What if you trade under the 85k allowance?

indielad 01-20-2021 06:20 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
I just found this one the DPD website...

Summary of changes

From 1st January, 2021:

• The import VAT exemption policy for goods of £15 and below will be cancelled.

• Import VAT will no longer be levied on goods of £135 and below. In replacement, Online Marketplaces (OMPs) or overseas sellers will be responsible for collecting and accounting for Supply VAT at the point of sale.

• Goods above 135 pounds will follow the existing policy, and import VAT will be levied.

• Therefore, overseas sellers and OMPs must register for a UK tax number (UK VAT) and collect VAT payment in accordance with the new policy.

• This policy is expected to speed up customs clearance and import of goods with a value of 135 pounds and below.

• Please note that the new rules do not apply to non-commercial transactions between private individuals (C2C).

• As the UK is still negotiating with the EU, the policy is still variable. If there is any change, we will notify you immediately.

e2free 01-20-2021 07:48 PM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1137529)
What is being removed upon entry? I don't pay any VAT to my supplier?

Given there are no gift allowances any more, does that mean every importation, even personal wares, will be assessed for VAT and a bill sent by HMRC? (That's simply not going to happen.)

What about businesses who are not VAT registered?

Will Fedex, UPS, Parcelforce etc no longer be collecting VAT and Duty on behalf of HMRC?

I wonder what will happen if folk do not respond to these HMRC demands?

thats only for those who is vat registered, basically they dont needs to pay vat at the time of import they needs to declare this into their next vat return,
alot of things I was thinking will not happen but it is happning

Hank 01-21-2021 03:05 AM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1137562)
thats only for those who is vat registered, basically they dont needs to pay vat at the time of import they needs to declare this into their next vat return,
alot of things I was thinking will not happen but it is happning

How do they know if you're VAT registered? What about those who are but on the flat rate scheme?

How are they going to cross reference between importation and business returns?

TBH I have seen absolutely nothing to this effect, only similar to what indielad posted above.

"Goods above 135 pounds will follow the existing policy, and import VAT will be levied."

Do you have any links to the contrary please?

e2free 01-21-2021 04:43 AM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
If you google full goverment vat changes available i beleive its on gov.uk site

Hank 01-21-2021 08:14 AM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1137612)
If you google full goverment vat changes available i beleive its on gov.uk site

Okay, I have.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...1-january-2021

It confirms that for shipments to the value of £135 are now treated as subject to supply VAT, rather than import VAT as in the Alixpress example I gave.

It also confirms that for goods over £135 then there is no change, you will not be allowed to import goods VAT free, get a bill from HMRC, and pay up later.

e2free 01-21-2021 08:37 AM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1137649)
Okay, I have.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...1-january-2021

It confirms that for shipments to the value of £135 are now treated as subject to supply VAT, rather than import VAT as in the Alixpress example I gave.

It also confirms that for goods over £135 then there is no change, you will not be allowed to import goods VAT free, get a bill from HMRC, and pay up later.

Search for Postponed VAT Accounting dont have exact wording but it is similar or search chnages in vat from 1st jan you will see what I mean

djswho 02-21-2021 11:59 AM

Re: customs fees and VAT post Brexit
 
Fedex send invoice 2-3 later packet delivery , 2 times contacted buyer ... he open claim he dont know arrived + tax etc,etc ..

What you think if i send unit 135 gbp less no extra tax or who will paid this tax ?


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