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ajmon 01-10-2010 04:25 PM

getting uk phone no
 
i live in uk . so just wanted to know from my uk friends in this forum as to which uk phone provider they use for getting a local phone no.
is it better to use voip or trac phone.....

captainjack1980 01-10-2010 04:36 PM

Hi, Trac phone is American. VOIP is hit and miss but works for some. I suggest you try one of the virtual phone number providers, like ring central.

Use the paid for service to avoid getting recycled junk numbers. You will have a choice of area codes for most UK cities.

CaptainJack

captainjack1980 01-10-2010 04:39 PM

If you have a BT land line you could make use of Call Sign, but it is not very stealthy and you can only have one additional number per line.

CaptainJack

bode 01-11-2010 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captainjack1980 (Post 118797)
If you have a BT land line you could make use of Call Sign, but it is not very stealthy

CaptainJack

How come? I registered for a Call Sign number 5 mins ago. £2.59 per month and I get my area code. The number is randomly generated by providing the next available local number, but I cannot choose. I will know my number when it arrives in 2-3 days.

captainjack1980 01-11-2010 07:21 AM

Simply bescause of the limited numbers available and the fact it is linked to your landline.

CaptainJack

bode 01-11-2010 07:51 AM

I would have assumed that is the case for the call forwarding services unless some forward to a mobile? Planet numbers who offer a similar service charge £49 set up and £10 per month.

captainjack1980 01-11-2010 07:54 AM

You get a country wide choice of area codes and you can forward to a mobile yes.

Nothing wrong with call sign if it serves your purpose though :)

CaptainJack

ivonnewun 01-12-2010 07:17 PM

Whats up with Tesco Internet Phone?

aslam 01-13-2010 05:13 AM

did any body try vonage phone with multipule virtual number ?

aslam 01-13-2010 05:14 AM

I am using voipphone in paypal but paypal not making the calls on free 0560 number do I need to have paid number ?

oompaloompa 01-13-2010 12:41 PM

the 056 is ok for seller acc on ebay, you need a geographical format for paypal location confirmation, and it needs to be very good match

aslam 01-14-2010 05:21 AM

Hi oompaloompa,

I buy a number from there list and there was no numbers for london 0207,0208 avaliable so I selected richmond which is near to greater london and I believe the closest one. but the code is not 0208 or 0207 but it is 0174? will it still risk I believe some one can keep his number if he was in one city and want same number in next city is that possible still paypal will make trouble?

I also click verify me via post but I am just worry as in future if they look at my account or if there computer looked it and pops me and ask enter contact information again?

Did eny one try vonage or SOHO call they have london number and only cost 2£?

thanks

oompaloompa 01-14-2010 07:15 AM

ok it depends what you need it for, if its to verify paypal location and you DO NOT have access to address, the code must be correct.....but if you have access to address, doesnt matter, wait for letter

charlesb 01-18-2010 04:18 PM

hi mate i have bought a number with soho and it worked fine. just 2 pound they have all the area codes and u have a big choice of numbers to choose from!

aslam 01-20-2010 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charlesb (Post 120414)
hi mate i have bought a number with soho and it worked fine. just 2 pound they have all the area codes and u have a big choice of numbers to choose from!

are you from london ? actually I live in london and my default code is 0208 and SOHO have only 0207 number I am not sure if 0207 and 0208 number can be used in greater london and center london vice versa?

I mean if I buy 0207 will paypal still check it in there local area codes database and can say this number doesn't match to your location as I am in 0208 area code ?

oompaloompa 01-20-2010 07:41 AM

^^generally speaking yes..pp will check their database not only the 0208 bit but the following 1-4 digits may not match up, silly really as nowadays people move and take number with them between areas, but this has been outr experience on forum, so if address isnt accessible with change address to one that is or make sure number is very accurate

aslam 01-25-2010 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 120768)
^^generally speaking yes..pp will check their database not only the 0208 bit but the following 1-4 digits may not match up, silly really as nowadays people move and take number with them between areas, but this has been outr experience on forum, so if address isnt accessible with change address to one that is or make sure number is very accurate

PP only check for london and accept (0203,0207,0208) as valid london numbers ;)

Yaz 02-26-2010 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aslam (Post 121867)
PP only check for london and accept (0203,0207,0208) as valid london numbers ;)

So does that mean it is ok to use 0203 if i am based in london? thanks

aslam 02-27-2010 03:30 AM

Yes 0203 is 100% ok to use for london.

bode 03-02-2010 10:11 AM

I verified my new PP account with a BT call sign number with only the area code matching.
Happy days.

aslam 03-03-2010 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode (Post 126785)
I verified my new PP account with a BT call sign number with only the area code matching.
Happy days.

For more then one accounts use sipgate.co.uk its best and you can have more then 100's number for free.

Dude 03-04-2010 08:09 PM

Am thinking of verifying a 2nd EBAY/PP account that is registered to my current address. Can I use Call Sign for this? The account will take high amount of sales eventually so it will be flagged up with PP, will need to be sure if Call Sign will cause any problem later on down the line? THANKS

oompaloompa 03-05-2010 03:15 PM

^^ yes callsign should work, and if it doesnt letter goes out to your address

callsign should pose no problems regarding flagging

bode 03-05-2010 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude (Post 127129)
Am thinking of verifying a 2nd EBAY/PP account that is registered to my current address. Can I use Call Sign for this? The account will take high amount of sales eventually so it will be flagged up with PP, will need to be sure if Call Sign will cause any problem later on down the line? THANKS

I've used Call Sign for paypal and registered an ebay selling account very recently.

When it comes to selling, once registered, look up your addresses in ebay and make sure you add the phone number. You have to add it again as it is not pre-filled. They want this in case of an issue relating to your account so this will avoid any temporary holds until you add the info or don't get their call.

Dude 03-05-2010 06:39 PM

I have already registered a seller account about 3 weeks ago and at the time i didn't know about callsign and used a friends number which is an 0207 and I am in a 0203 area, but this was just for ebay. I will verify Pay Pal with Callsign and then go into the ebay account and change the phone number back to the Callsign number from the 0207, do u guys think this might flag anything up?

bode 03-05-2010 07:35 PM

It should be ok, you can have different addresses on file and they are going to be happy that you have updated your new phone number. Pick up the verification calls and you will be ready to rock.

Yaz 03-06-2010 06:17 AM

Hey guys! I have verified my PP account, before it was giving me hard time like the address entered is not correct etc but finally managed to get a call from them using soho66 it is pretty cool for those who want to try! SO my question is, even though i am a verified user but i cannot lift the £1700 limits? All stages is complete...there is no incomplete info they requested -but when i verified through phone, i got a msg on the screen, now we will send you letter via post...can someone please help me because i am confused! what is going on, should i be calling them? or start selling - either paypal will limit you at the end so should i start selling?? The info is a relative info.

oompaloompa 03-06-2010 09:05 AM

^^ok letter is going to relatives address, it will be there in approx 3 weeks...

soho is good for ebay seller account, but most voip based numbers are not close enough to a real number for the likes of paypal location verification.

for location you need a virtual number that is closely matched to one that would be in that street and assigned by BT - in general

bode 03-06-2010 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 127321)

for location you need a virtual number that is closely matched to one that would be in that street and assigned by BT - in general

BT don't assign numbers like that. You get an area code and that's it, the rest doesn't matter. My Call Sign isn't remotely close to my official landline number.

If you are saying that certain numbers fail, the only reason I can think of is that the virtual numbers are redirected and maybe PP pick up on this. These virtual numbers are intended to give customers the impression that a business is local when in fact they are based in a different town.

oompaloompa 03-07-2010 03:43 AM

ok, Im just going by feedback from one forumer who said it really matched the number he already had - actually you may be correct.

I suppose it varies as to what numbers BT have available and they try and match you up, but if they cant you get something further away - but the redirection is something that people have mentioned as being the issue, but we hadnt established it, as people had varying results...

aslam 03-07-2010 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yaz (Post 127308)
Hey guys! I have verified my PP account, before it was giving me hard time like the address entered is not correct etc but finally managed to get a call from them using soho66 it is pretty cool for those who want to try! SO my question is, even though i am a verified user but i cannot lift the £1700 limits? All stages is complete...there is no incomplete info they requested -but when i verified through phone, i got a msg on the screen, now we will send you letter via post...can someone please help me because i am confused! what is going on, should i be calling them? or start selling - either paypal will limit you at the end so should i start selling?? The info is a relative info.

Dear Friend,

If you used the number which belongs to your area then there should not be any problem by paypal and the only reason to send you the letter is if you fail to pickup the call or if your phone number doesn't belong to your area.

For eg: I am using 3 numbers at the moment for east london, 0208,0207 and 0203 they all get verified without any problem. I will advise use SIPGATE.co.uk is the best option.

2 - if you have success fully confirmed all the steps and after phone confirmation if they showed you the message that you have successfully verified your account over the phone. then they are not going to send you the letter but if they display the message that "We was unable to verifiy your account over the phone for some reason and going to send you the letter by post then they are sending you the letter".

Some time even you done all the verification steps you still see the "view limit" or lift your limit in your account for eg:

i have 6 paypal account andin 2 accounts I done all the steps there was no step remainning for the lift limit but still in my account there was "view limit" but there was no step todo there. I call paypal and email twoice to them they said its just a gelich in there system I should not worry and continue my sale but to be very honest they drop my account on 1200£

I email them again with reference or pervious mail and they replied with invoice, photo ID, and I provided all but they block my account with reason this "limitation can't apeal against"

For the 2nd account in which I had same situation I tried my own way and I started all the verification steps again even they were marked done in resolution center.

"I started removeing my bank account from the paypal account and then re added it. Once I did it view limit just disapear from my account."

So I will advise do so the same if you have done every thing and its marked as done in your papal then the view limit will disapear.


Some time this disapear by just upgrading your account from private to premier account.

thanks

oompaloompa 03-07-2010 05:08 AM

the only time a number ever worked for pp location was when I used a virtual number - when I used voip, rest of time its failed - but I didnt care as I knew that was a possiblity and addresses where real.

BUT that virtual number that worked WAS diverted to my landline -so not 100% sure diversion is the issue, maybe they detect voip or maybe voip isnt close enough in matching

I think there is a difference between virtual and voip. Some telecoms expert could tell us - but doesnt virtual kinda sit on your existing line, wheras voip is more of a diversion.

anyhoo - bottom line voip has never worked for me, for pp location code...but not sure why exactly

so, thats where all confusion lies, different results for different forumers - frustrating

oompaloompa 03-07-2010 05:14 AM

aslam quoted - For the 2nd account in which I had same situation I tried my own way and I started all the verification steps again even they were marked done in resolution center.

"I started removeing my bank account from the paypal account and then re added it. Once I did it view limit just disapear from my account."

So I will advise do so the same if you have done every thing and its marked as done in your papal then the view limit will disapear.


Some time this disapear by just upgrading your account from private to premier account.

Interesting ^^^ not sure I quite follow though......

Yaz 03-07-2010 05:52 AM

thank you all really appreciate your comments ;) I had paypal accounts previously and never experienced anything like this before....It is so much hassle to avoid limitation and to stay in ebay!

bode 03-07-2010 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 127428)
- but the redirection is something that people have mentioned as being the issue, but we hadnt established it, as people had varying results...

http://www.planet-numbers.co.uk/images/area-call.png

Explained here:
Local Area Numbers - 01 and 02 STD Codes from Planet Numbers | Planet Numbers

cpm 03-07-2010 07:30 PM

Call Centres use this all the time. For example, local or national UK number gets forwarded to a call centre abroad (Bangalore) via VOIP. Poor customer sods think they are talking to someone in UK, when in fact this is not the case.

oompaloompa 03-08-2010 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpm (Post 127495)
Call Centres use this all the time. For example, local or national UK number gets forwarded to a call centre abroad (Bangalore) via VOIP. Poor customer sods think they are talking to someone in UK, when in fact this is not the case.

err no, as soon as they open their mouth , I know Im talking to India - my heart sinks as I know they can only do the most basic of enquiries for me, anything else , useless - complete false economy by these companies

cpm 03-10-2010 07:06 PM

Err yes.. you are put through abroad but they are supposed to make it look like you're being dealt with locally/nationally. Speaking to the callperson is the give-away we know that.

Who's kidding who I wonder??

bode 03-11-2010 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpm (Post 127895)
Err yes.. you are put through abroad but they are supposed to make it look like you're being dealt with locally/nationally. Speaking to the callperson is the give-away we know that.

Who's kidding who I wonder??

Are you sure? These call centre people know the latest plots in Coronation Street and the unusually nice weather we are having today. They couldn't be in India!! I watched Slum Dog Millionaire :)

paypalpains 09-26-2010 07:21 AM

aslam, how far east are you ?


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