| | | Christianm | 05-26-2010 09:08 AM | Stealth Account Sort Codes and addresses So ive setup 4 virtual addresses (mailboxes) new phone lines (voip) , each totally seperate in business names , i spoke to my bank HSBC and they are willing to set me up 4 business bank accounts under my 4 different addresses obviously with debit cards , will it matter that the sort code is the same as long as its different addresses , acc number , phone and edited business names are different etc?
The aim is so can actually withdraw money out of these accounts without being linked by name bank etc, as i would use business names when adding the account to paypal , ebay ,what other possible links could there be? |
| oompaloompa | 05-26-2010 11:45 AM | sort code isnt a problem
cookies/LSO? |
| Christianm | 05-26-2010 07:18 PM | HI lso? cookies no different user accounts of course. I was doing 100k a month for 6 months consecutive then they stopped me so ill spend whatever i have to to set it up properly, so much USA advice hard to sift though it, would i be better using a entro pay card to verify things than a debit card? |
| oompaloompa | 05-27-2010 05:24 AM | either entropay or debit card are ok......
look up LSO, you need an add-on from mozilla to clear them, or better still, use another windows user screen per account, then no need to clear anything |
| Vicvelcro | 05-27-2010 05:41 AM | Some LSO is now global within your PC. That means it's accessible from every windows account. Keep regular cookies. Block or remove LSO after each session. |
| oompaloompa | 05-27-2010 06:27 AM | ok, Vic, question - LSO
previous advice was to, either keep cookies and LSO on each user, or alternatively delete them on shared screens with betterprivacy add-on
so, these global ones, is its not the same advice? we have to clear LSO now even on unique users. I mean if they are straying to other users, we have got to delete them regardless, right, or am I mis-interpreting?
also what do you think of the privacy plus add-on - worth it? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/14217 |
| HurricaneHuntr | 05-27-2010 06:29 AM | fk me, so does that mean all my accounts are now linked? I never removed LSO's. i just created different ips/different user accounts........ |
| oompaloompa | 05-27-2010 06:37 AM | I have both, as I have so many accounts, Ive got certain users that have just one account on them and i keep LSO and cookies
I then have a few shared user screens that are cleared of LSO and cookies each login...
I agree bizzy, sometimes Id rather not know these scary things, but weve gotta keep up with the methods...and Vics knows the knowhow...........
basically Vic is saying weve got to set betterprivacy to keep cookies and delete LSO, aye......well as Bizzy said, its probably too late now!! are these new objects?? recent? |
| oompaloompa | 05-27-2010 06:43 AM | I just looked up global shared objects and actually there isnt much info on them, just talks about the local ones.
If you keep flash turned off on mozilla on all users is that any help??
all I found was this on wiki- global LSO settings are not under the control of the user and can only be amended through adobe settings manager control panel
also what do you make of this from wiki - certain countries its illegal to track without their knowledge consent. For example, in the UK
customers must consent to use of cookies/LSOs as defined in "Guidance on the Privacy and Electronic Communications (EC Directive) Regulations 2003" [1]... |
| OfficialGenius | 05-27-2010 07:05 AM | If that's the case about LSO as vic mentioned, I think that means everyone is doomed. Unless I misinterpreted it. :faint: |
| oompaloompa | 05-27-2010 07:09 AM | Vic get back here , before everyone makes some artwork in their underpants................ |
| jbluntz | 05-27-2010 10:11 AM | I never used to remove LSO's either until recently, still have accounts up I'm gonna start doing it now though just to be safe, I heard the add on in firefox is better than ccleaner. |
| slapped | 05-27-2010 10:20 AM | |
| Christianm | 05-27-2010 11:20 AM | Thanks for that its added , i had seen about the flash cookies before good stuff.
Anyone had luck trading on premier accounts in foreign countries, as Brasil , Latvia dont seem to accept business paypal accounts, and i have access to alot of banks there i could use. Anyone trading out of the main countries doing more than a few thousand a month? |
| galvatron | 05-27-2010 05:13 PM | Hummm interesting, I'm waiting for Vic to come back on this :pop2: |
| GreenBean | 05-27-2010 05:24 PM | And when he does we'll have the THREAD in the correct forum. Be prepared for that.:fight: |
| OfficialGenius | 05-27-2010 08:20 PM | Oh man... another hassle. :tears: |
| Christianm | 05-28-2010 12:35 AM | sorry did i do something wrong? |
| oompaloompa | 05-28-2010 03:20 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Christianm
(Post 141269)
sorry did i do something wrong? | no, you didnt at all, its just the subject has gone off topic and may need to go in to another section,
admin likes to keep things neat....
:focus: |
| oompaloompa | 05-28-2010 03:34 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Christianm
(Post 141102)
Thanks for that its added , i had seen about the flash cookies before good stuff.
Anyone had luck trading on premier accounts in foreign countries, as Brasil , Latvia dont seem to accept business paypal accounts, and i have access to alot of banks there i could use. Anyone trading out of the main countries doing more than a few thousand a month? |
sorry, cannot answer that, maybe you could pm some latvia members on forum. ok there is a other countries section you could look thru, we dont have many members from Brasil though........... |
| Christianm | 05-28-2010 12:06 PM | Im from uk ! we went through this before lol, just visiting family in Brasil hence the IP from there. |
| oompaloompa | 05-28-2010 02:34 PM | ok, I didnt notice you said that, but anyway...........thats alot easier, just follow the ebook and make a UK account ..
Uk section probably wont help you on brasil accounts...
and change your flag if you need advice based on UK accounts... |
| Christianm | 05-28-2010 02:59 PM | tell me as your uk, how many banks do you find you can have at each branch or bank? Whats the max you have currently, i find that its the bank account opening is the hardest part of stealth due to the large number im trying to go for.You see these psots have 30 accounts meaniing they got to have 30 bank accounts scattered around. |
| oompaloompa | 05-28-2010 03:02 PM | it depends on your financial status, but i would say 2 per bank is max, so maybe you could have 10 banks easily... |
| Christianm | 05-28-2010 03:21 PM | you just stick with current accounts then, because you could do multiple standard business accounts in your name, savings and current accounts, i asked my bank manager today for 10 business accounts and they said no problem, but maybe your right depending on finacial situation and bank standing would play apart. |
| Vicvelcro | 06-01-2010 07:50 AM | Regarding the LSO issue that everyone is tense about:
I've been saying for a long time that users should keep standard cookies BUT block or remove LSO. Flash is not the only type of LSO. LSO can store itself in shared areas of your system, thus it is accessible to all user accounts. Sneaky sneaky...
In addition, there are some LSO that can respawn deleted info. Say you clean your regular cookies and your flash objects, but miss some other type of LSO - that missed object can read its own backup data and restore all of the other items you deleted. Basically, it is all reborn and available again.
I do not yet know which sites have implemented this yet. I strongly suspect Amazon has done so a few months ago.
The reason you can't find much info about LSO is due to the big sites trying to keep it hush hush. Don't just rely on wikipedia to tell you the whole story. Try using multiple search engines to locate info about 'supercookie'. Then have a look into DOM storage.
There are countries who have laws about privacy, but those laws are hard to enforce accross borders (hosting farms...). Also, if you look deep within site ToS verbiage, there is often some disclaimer in there that you as a user imply your consent by virtue of the fact that you are accessing the site. Caveat Emptor!
The easy life is gone. Privacy is dead.
Some users claim they've had no problem with LSO. To that, my reply is "Yet". The lucky bastijiz are only alive by co-incidence.
Keeping yourself private does require effort and resources. There is no quick solution anymore. The question is: which sites are experimenting and which sites have fully implemented the supercookie, respawning LSO, DOM, and browser profiling.
Slapped had a good link to share. Hope you all took a look.... |
| OfficialGenius | 06-01-2010 08:13 AM | Looks like this is the perfect time to be on the look-out for laptop suppliers and invest in a few laptops. In the meantime we're just going to have to learn all of this and remove it successfully. Perhaps a tutorial. :) |
| Vicvelcro | 06-01-2010 08:22 AM | Or at least some spare hard drives. Install your OS on each, but then make each unique to one login. Or have a very robust system of segregation.
The methods I've implemented are way too involved for any sane person to duplicate. I've actually been using a couple of Apps that are designed for one purpose, but I kludge them for another purpose (not their intended use). It was tricky, but I've not had any problems yet. Just a pain in the heinie to get it all working together. |
| GreenBean | 06-01-2010 08:24 AM | ffs, another ruined thread Closed until I edit it. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:29 AM. | |
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