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Hi all,

I posted a while back sayin that I got banned off ebay.

Since then I have been working to get back on. I opened a new paypal and ebay account with **** details.

Im in the process of completing my paypla direct debit.

All was well until just now. I went to sell my first item, so it takes me on the seller verification pages on ebay. I successfully verified my phone number, then the next page is deciding how to pay ebay fees.

the 3 options are use your paypal to pay fees, use a credit or debit card or set up a direct debit.

In all 3 cases I am being asked for my card details which will not be authorised with my **** details.

Please help me. Thank you all in advance.

I am in the UK by the way.

Very basic stuff. All covered in the stealth book, and can be found through search. Take your pick.

Ok thanks for that.

I just signed up to entropay. I successfully activiated a virtual card. So i see a picture of the card on my screen but the long number only shows the first few and last few digits.

I have added my proper visa card but the option to load the virtual card is not available?

Can someone advise me.

Thank you.

When you sign up for a virtual card do you put in real details or stealth details.

I put in my stealth details to match that of my ebay and paypal and en tro pay want a copy of driving licence utiltiy bill etc etc.

I can't give them that information because it will not match.

I know I have done it wrong. Can someone please give me a hand in signing up for a virtual card the right way.

Thank you.

When you sign up for vcc's such as entropay you use your REAL details always.

The information you input into your vcc will not be shared with ebay/paypal due to data protection laws. :juggle:

Just for personal knowledge,

I just tried to get as far as I could with the 3 methods of paying fees just to see which details are required. With debit card and direct debit, when it comes to card details it doesnt ask you for the name of card holder, but when choosing to do it by pa yp al it asks you for your name. If I put my stealth name and then virtual card details, will that work?

If so why doesnt a normal card work in the same way and if not, doesn't that mean pa yp al has access to the virtual card records?

Thanks a million.

I 'think' normal cards don't work coz of postcode matching.

Is Alps correct with the post code matching theory?

Likely, this is a common factor amongst credit cards, it is used to identify the person claiming to own the card.

It is known as the Address Verification System. This is used in the UK and the US.

Address Verification System - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:peace:

Thanks for the replies guys.

God bless you all. I let you know the low down on gettin back up and running.

Ats.

No problem, I posted a link to the wiki page about AVS. You guys should check it out if you are interested in how it works :thumb:

:peace:

this is the same problem that I have too - the 3 options, paypal, dd and card all ask for credit or debit card details. Will a virtual card or a 3v voucher work in this instance?

Also, as per my previous thread, I signed up for entropay with my correct details. They asked me for my drivers licence and bank card pictures - uploaded them and they still said NO to me :mad2:

Just want to know which is the best option for me now - I have read stealth btw.

Cheers

^^ You do not have to add a card to eb ay.

I know I dont have to but 2 out of the 3 options requires you to. The other option is adding it to pa yp al.

Which method, out of the 3 would you suggest?

It isn't about what I suggest to be honest, people have a different opinion on things, perhaps you should go with the safest option and add a card instead.

I pay with PP :D

It depends on your game plan.

IMHO if your eb and PP have the same details why not link them? Lets face it - if one goes down the other is going with it and one wouldn't be any use without the other.

Having said that I'm new here and wiser heads than mine might know better

By linking eb and pp do you mean doing it officially as in going on eb and completing the linking process, or are u speaking 'metaphorically'.

Either way by linking, will that eliminate having to add a card?

Apple- is you pp bank acc verified?

^^^ She is talking about linking them when paying your EB fees with PP.

Saying if one went down, the other one would anyway because they have the same details. Therefore you might as well pay your fees with PP.

She means that or there abouts, that is how I interpreted it.

Anyway read this thread and make your own mind up...

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...do-safely.html

The point is that pp and eb DO share info and this could easily lead to a suspension or a limit.

:peace:

And now another newbie is going to fall for the trap of using paypal for fees. :rolleyes:
Bad move to pay fees with paypal. Bad move.

What is your biggest worry about paying fees with PP?

That they may go as far as your bank account to collect the money?

I prefer to minimise the amount of access paypal has to my accounts.

Ergo, ebay gets their fees without paypal being involved.

One less link that could potential damage a stealth account. :boink:

Haha, sorry this is just one of the things I just can't figure out fully yet :doh:

Well here it is........soo why is the info PP gives EB (or vice versa) going to be any different everytime you accept a payment or do a refund?

I wasn't planning on going through my paypal, but is seems to me I have no choice.

Say that they reject my en tro pay application, what am I to do? Are there any other cards that will work without address verification etc?

Thanks.

@nosey-one, it is ONE less matter for paypal to be involved with: refunds & payments are fine. Allowing them an extra foot of rope to hang my account is not.

I 'control' what happens by reducing potential trouble.

Say your bank account has no funds in it, paypal account has no funds either: what is the outcome of ebay's using paypal as a payment method? A negative balance in paypal & possibly the bank account.
So ebay is annoyed for no fees.
paypal is annoyed for negative balance
bank hates the account being overdrawn.

That's 3 parties all annoyed with one seller.
But use an alternative method, like a card, then ebay gets its fees. paypal & bank are not touched. Everyone is reasonably happy.
Dont know about you, but I prefer that method :pop2:

Yeah, I am coming around to the idea more and more to be honest, seems to be the best way to protect all accounts. eb ay all the way to your bank and from fees to limitations ;)

IMHO - as a newbie - here goes. E-Bay and Paypal go hand in hand on some things and not on others. i.e. when my paypal account was limited so was one of my e-bay accounts linked to paypal - the other ebay account fees were paid by dd and not linked. Anyway (and this is all before I read stealth!) - one goes down yet ebay could have taken their fees from my limited paypal a/c but they didn't, they just kept pestering me for them, which I didn't pay of course.

Now then, some time later, the ebay account that was still active with a new paypal a/c was shut down as it was linked (sharing physical information) with the original closed account and ........ the new paypal a/c was shut too.

Although they are one and the same, ebay will not take your fees from paypal - don't know why but now that I have read stealth and know what to do. Seperate user id's, ip's, and other details - all seperate. I'm just struggling now with getting a gift card for my new stealth venture.

Well, sorry, but I still don't get it. (No comments about thickos please)

ebay know your PP acct because you receive into it from their site. They also have bank and CC details because PP will tell them (whatever the rights or wrongs of that)

Would it not, I suggest, be a sign that you are totally honest and up front because you are paying your ebay fees with your PP acct?

I still stand by my original assertion - if one of your accts goes down (ebay or PP) the other isn't going to be any use to you.

OK - shoot me down!

Hey people, I have had a breakthrough. It worked.

Just need to wait 1 or 2 days to verifiy. Thanks to all who showed me the way.

Any one who need a hand of a similar problem, feel free to message me.

Thanks.

You are better of purchasing "eBay Stealth" end of hassle and saves you money regardless what you would do when you make a new eBay account/PayPal account.

Stealth Master :clap:

I missed this, what did you do?

You might as well post it here so everyone can see it.

If I don't need it someone will! :thumb:

edit: told you....:D

Post it here please...i still need some advice.... Any help will be appreciated.
Thank you

Sure thing. Well basically what I found is, one way or another you need to assign a card to either pp or eb.

I opened an en tro pay account. Even though they say your virtual card is active it isn't, you have to wait for an email which say that you have been restricted and that you need to send us some identification. So you do that no problems. As for the merchants you will be using the virtual card with, tell them is just for general web purchasing that's all. Only a dummy would say it's for pp imo.

So then a few hours later, the virtual card was ready to use. I loaded it up with the minimum of £10. Then I went to list my first item on my new eb account. This leads you to the page where is asks you for a payment method for sel ler fees. I chose the middle one, that is pay with dc or cc. I put in the virtual card details, clicked continue, and booooooom it was successful.

However, because my bank account is in the process of being verified, they wanted me to sign into pp and type the 2 small amounts in which they deposit. It should come through 2mo and hopefully all is well. I shall go on to make a few more accounts.

What I plan to do is make one off payment somehow before they take the money directly from my virtual card. There is no need to pay the 4.5% on the virtual card.

Hope that helps.

^^^ Nice :thumb:

So your bank is being verified and you are paying your fees with a VCC.

BOOOOOOM ;)

Booooooooooooooooooooooooooom

Hello again
There is one thing that is still unclear for me... Will you have a different ba nk acct for each PP?
Once you create the VCC, you will register it with e b ay? And the ba nk acct with PP?
How will you be able to withdraw your earnings? with PP straight to your bank acct or with the VCC?
I am sorry for all the questions....my brain is a bit slow when it comes to new things like that and i don't want to make mistakes....
Thank you

Yes, you can not use the same bank account for multiple PP accounts, this rule stands true outside of stealth.

I pay fees with PP at the moment, though I am certain that this is correct, a vcc is a cc and you can register the same cc with both eb and pp.

I do it straight to the bank, have never tried to withdraw to a vcc.

I don't even get the option. Anyone know a little more on this? ^^. Thanks.

:peace:

UNFORTUNATELY Withdrawing to VCC is not an option in UK. If it was I would be holidaying in Barbados AT LEAST three times a year and that knackered old Rover parked outside my house would be a Lotus Exige (sport)

^^^Why can't you withdraw to a credit card on PP? Do you know?

It's just not an option yet in UK. US PayPal have allowed it for some time.

In UK, there are no gift cards that contain sort code and account number. In US they use to act like a bank account. Now PayPal have simply made it acceptable to withdraw to credit cards -- but not in UK.

https://www.paypal.com/helpcenter/ma...392&isSrch=Yes

I know in Italy you can withdraw to a pre-paid.

You can go through full verification without a bank acc (bank acc are not free in IT) using the prepaid and withdraw to the prepaid cc.

Downside: to open the prepaid you need to go to the post office with your ID and national insurance number.