What are my rights? Being conned by overseas buyer

Road-Kill · #45 05-25-2011

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Originally Posted by craigle

Yeah this is a stealth account

i only have about £18 in there which wont cover. I myself would have sent it recorded but as my partner did it he didnt realise and thought it would be ok

this guy is a blatent scammer, even when he gets it he will say he hasnt. Only has 10 feedbacks

has a real hate to British people aswell so he is really enjoying this.

how can i get money out of my bank account into my paypal so the balance will be coverd? cant believe this is happening. Such a collectable item aswell. The money is in my bank but will this flag up if there isnt enough actually in paypal?

as for compensation with royal mail, it doesnt seem worth filling out the form if i am only going to get the cost of a stamp back

I'm wondering why you don't just walk away from this account and start a new one?

You have a stealth account and now you have a buyer claiming the item isn't received. You have no proof of shipping the item.

Then to make things worse, both you and the buyer are contacting E-Bay and PP. What makes you think they won't shut down this account with no proof of delivery or ask for ID's or check the public records and see if the name on the account even exist?

And I have no idea why you are worried about E-Bay and PP trying to collect money. If you don't voluntarily pay they will then send out threatening letters to a alias, stating their credit will be ruined if they don't pay.

Just tell E-Bay, PP and the buyer to F-Off and you'll feel much better.

isitworththestress · #46 05-27-2011

I was wondering the same as you Road Kill. Just seems a lot of trouble for an account that depending on how much they sell could be shut down with one more buyer complaint for the next year or so.

ShadyOne

I just stopped selling overseas.

The alternatives for those of us that do not sell large amounts in the UK are zero, due to the prices they charge. Or you just take it on the chin and hope the masses do not realize. But more and more of them are.

If you sell large amounts, then you can get some good deals with business post from most companies.

One more thing to the OP

What you got as dispatch time. I moved mine up to ten days. Possibly loosing a couple of sales but if anyone tires to open a not received complaint then ebay just tell them it is too early so go talk to the seller and I get a message telling me they tried to open one.

Maybe worth trying for your next account.

ShadyOne · #47 05-27-2011

^ Yeah I stopped selling overseas as well. I was just interested to find out if their was a courier that someone would recommend.

GTB · #48 05-27-2011

ive never had a problem with overseas buyers,never sent to nigeria though

Road-Kill · #49 05-27-2011

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Originally Posted by isitworththestress

I was wondering the same as you Road Kill. Just seems a lot of trouble for an account that depending on how much they sell could be shut down with one more buyer complaint for the next year or so.

ShadyOne

I just stopped selling overseas.

The alternatives for those of us that do not sell large amounts in the UK are zero, due to the prices they charge. Or you just take it on the chin and hope the masses do not realize. But more and more of them are.

If you sell large amounts, then you can get some good deals with business post from most companies.

One more thing to the OP

What you got as dispatch time. I moved mine up to ten days. Possibly loosing a couple of sales but if anyone tires to open a not received complaint then ebay just tell them it is too early so go talk to the seller and I get a message telling me they tried to open one.

Maybe worth trying for your next account.

It seems a lot of people form a emotional attachment to their stealth accounts. The OP is talking about their rights like the alias they created is a real person.

oompaloompa · #50 05-27-2011

this is ridiculous talk, why if YOU are scammed should you abandon account, heck yes i am attached to my accounts, I would rather take a financial hit and learn a lesson than abandon an account that will make more money in future. By all means take precautions, in case it goes down anyway, eg dont keep much in paypal and sell under radar for a while....I dont think the money the OP is talking about is worth jumping ship....

ShadyOne · #51 05-27-2011

Yeah, no point abandoning eBay accounts over something that could happen to any account at any time, including the new one you decide to open.

GreenBean · #52 05-27-2011

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Originally Posted by Road-Kill

It seems a lot of people form a emotional attachment to their stealth accounts. The OP is talking about their rights like the alias they created is a real person.

What if his circumstances at this point in time make it difficult to get another bank account & start again? There's a fine line with what to do and what to say.

Road-Kill · #53 05-27-2011

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Originally Posted by GreenBean™

What if his circumstances at this point in time make it difficult to get another bank account & start again? There's a fine line with what to do and what to say.

If their position is that precarious, they should just take the hit and stay off the radar by not fighting the customer. It's not worth the risk if this is the only account they can get . If the OP has no proof of delivery, what do you think the chances are of winning the fight anyway?

So either way I would just walk away from the battle, but that's just what I would do. Others can cheer the OP on if they want to just as well.

oompaloompa · #54 05-28-2011

agreed, we thought you meant walk away from the whole account.

isitworththestress · #55 05-28-2011

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Originally Posted by oompaloompa

agreed, we thought you meant walk away from the whole account.

I did mean walk away from the account or at least stop using it until that mark has gone, as if they only sell small amounts, then all that account will need is one more buyer complaint and they will be toast in any case.

The buyer complaints stay as a mark on your account for a lot longer than the DSR marks, and for those that only sell a few items, that is a bad place to be, as all it takes is one more idiot.

GrannyT · #56 05-28-2011

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Originally Posted by isitworththestress

I did mean walk away from the account or at least stop using it until that mark has gone, as if they only sell small amounts, then all that account will need is one more buyer complaint and they will be toast in any case.

The buyer complaints stay as a mark on your account for a lot longer than the DSR marks, and for those that only sell a few items, that is a bad place to be, as all it takes is one more idiot.

How long do customer complaints stay on your 'record'?

Road-Kill · #57 05-28-2011

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Originally Posted by isitworththestress

I did mean walk away from the account or at least stop using it until that mark has gone, as if they only sell small amounts, then all that account will need is one more buyer complaint and they will be toast in any case.

The buyer complaints stay as a mark on your account for a lot longer than the DSR marks, and for those that only sell a few items, that is a bad place to be, as all it takes is one more idiot.

All it takes is one buyer, if they know what their doing.

For me, keeping buyers happy is part of my stealth techniques.

ShadyOne · #58 05-28-2011

^ Yeah it should be despite being stealth, but I understand you fully, it is even more vital when operating under stealth

isitworththestress · #59 06-02-2011

No idea, I did not keep a track of the last one I got but I think it is around a year.

The one I got, I got the message off ebay saying I know you are dealing with your customer but they have opened a buyer complaint. and I still get a hit for it.

And on ebay for some reason buyers seem to use it a lot.

Had one that I agreed a return and they said they would go through ebay, to keep it official. I explained to them that it was damaging to my account and they responded it was worth a try.

Had another that said I did not open a complaint I was just asking ebay what I should do before contacting you.

So I still say they should just dump this account for a time at least.

GrannyT · #60 06-02-2011

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Originally Posted by isitworththestress

So I still say they should just dump this account for a time at least.

Put it to bed for a while - is that what you mean? - let it get up when all the trouble has gone - sounds like a plan!