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Hmmm this is weird :S
 

So I started a stealth account only 3 days ago, it now has 26 positive feedbacks.... I decided to try something i worked out would work perfectly.
I sold an item £400+..
And even though the account is 3days old and only 26 feedback. the payment was not held by paypal.

It just went straight through into my pp account, i have added bank account and prepaid card... Not had the small deposits yet but not one payment hold.

Also, Ive done a £5 withdraw to bank account. - this was because obviously pp check the first withdraw and it takes something like 72hours to process and go through, then withdraws after this one go through in 24 hours (so they will be a lot bigger)

Any ideas why no payment hold?


Just to add -
Phone verified
Bank account added
Prepaid card added
-un verified.
no payment hold.

RESULT?

Does your PayPal account mention 21 days hold at all? On the account, not this transaction.

I have had the same thing happen before. Holds on some funds and not on others.

not sure where exactly I would look for the mention of 21 day holds... But i know pretty much all accounts have them. very odd

hi
how did you get 26 positive feedbacks in 3 days?

:yar:

Sounds very strange to me the payment not holding although you've got 26 positive feedback?, how have you got that sort of feedback on eBay in little time? plus 10 item limit?.

Stealth Master :clap:

How did you receive the money did you request the money from the PayPal account?, or did they pay through eBay because if you requested the money from a PayPal account. And the buyer not entered the item number then I'd have thought PayPal wouldn't hold the money, I've done this before requested the money from a PayPal account and never had the money hold £600 I think once.

first off. I made 22 feedback in 2 hours on the first day.
Tip- purchase from sellers based in HongKong/China, and when you leave them feedback they almost instantly leave it back...

Also, I sold the item through ebay, sent the payment details through ebay..
the buyer clicked 'pay now' and went through that process.

I never had a 10 item limit either...

Could you confirm how old the eBay sellers account is because as of September 2010 all new sellers where hit with a 10 item limit a month for new UK eBay sellers accounts.

Lookout for feedback manipulation warning.

Oh sorry I made myself unclear. I never sold, I merely bought from other members...

And to aboid the feedback manipulation. I bought items that were actual products, not guides etc.
So that the catergories they were listed in didnt raise any flags... e.g buying lots of informational products too fast would raise red flags i presume.
So i bought items such as . nintendo DSL 'stylus'... these sell for about 1p on auction, and they go off every 20 minutes with different sellers everytime.

Kind regards
Money

the account is 3 days old. no sales except for this first one. item sold for £400+ within 3 minutes of listing. payment made and not on hold.
Kind regards

Can't see why PayPal didn't hold the transaction and three days old? doesn't sound right even with all the feedback three days doesn't give eBay a lot to go on. Fair play to you!

Stealth Master :clap:

Oh, it's just 'buying' feedback, think some thought it may have been all 'selling' feedback.

So how many items you sold so far on this account?

1st one just a few hours ago for £400. buyer paid instantly and money is available to withdraw or spend right now...

Buying dozens of $1 items rapidly from China sellers will still get you limited. I've only really seen it for ID verification, but has happened many times. So have the information ready.

Tons of people who sell illegal items and make $5,000 in one day practice the exact same methods, so watch your a s s.

i have 3 eb accounts, which were opened within a couple of weeks of each other, and they all did different things, which makes me think it is random:

account 1 - 100 a month listing limit, no p pal hold
account 2 - 10 a month listing limit, no p pal hold
account 3 - 100 a month listing limit, p pal payments held for 21 days, although that was lifted after a month of selling and getting good fback

now working on my 4th, which is an old seller account donated to me by someone, to which i attached new ppal. No payment holds, not sure about listing limit, although def over 10 as i have 20 plus at the moment. waiting till i get 10+ buyer fback with stars so i can get DSR ratings before i test it to 100 and beyond

I have seen it happen once or twice, seems to depend on the items I have sold, as some items I assume must be more high risk than others.

For some reason accounts that do that tend to get the hit from ebay rather than paypal. The ebay system is rubbish though and tends to mess up when you try to use it. Like that set a call thing, where no one calls.

So you may end up having to go through the ID process with both of them

And for the auto feedback, just buy from anyone that uses the listing tools, as most have auto feedback set.

Good discussion ongoing.

Ebay just hit the limitations on about 30 minutes ago.
Not a problem.
Now i just need to get a new bank account tomorow. Register it with a new paypal and ebay account. And ready to go again.

did you get yr money out in time?

I only sold one item and yeah i took £330 with me.
Not worth the trouble though..

has the money completed in pal? or is still pending?

money has left the paypal account, £330 in my pocket but paypal is completely limited now. Time to start a fresh

ah ok well thats not too bad then least you got ya moolah! ;)

Its annoying though cos now I've lost a bank account for use. and a prepaid card!
need to make new bank account tomorrow and start again.
need money for next friday also so better start acting fast.
£1000 will do

what bank and prepaid are you using?

nationwide cashbuilder bank account. and cashplus pre paid card.

is that a basic bank account? how much do the cashplus cards cost?

Yeah thats a basic account, cashplus are £10.
but buying a VCC on here is much quicker so im going to do that for my next..

You are going to be burning a lot of accounts by the look of it. If you're going to need 2 or 3 a week it might be better to look at your business model. No one likes to get through that many assets - or do you know something we don't?
:hail:

No not sure of what i know.. I know its a lot of assets. but im short for time.

need to make some before next friday.
Also, a small question.. probably allready covered but im far to busy to search fo it...
When signing up to ebay account, if i opened a business account. Would i be able to sell high value items straight away?
also, what would they require from me?
kind regards

hi

regarding acc 1: was this set from the off - 100 items?
regarding acc 2: was this set from the off - 10 items or did you list something they may consider risky?
regarding acc 3: was this set from the off - 100 items and what do u think prompted the payment hold - i.e were the products risky in eb or pp eyes?

You seem to be doing very well - i hope im juggling that many in a month or 2 . :juggle:

I doubt it - I think you have been incredibly lucky so far. I wouldn't bank on that luck continuing. I don't know what you are selling - and I don't need to - but you need to know that EB know what you are selling and you could well find yourself in a situation where you are on the receiving end of multiple quick limitations.

I would check that PP withdrawal tomorrow if I were you - there's a very good chance it will have been reversed.

Be a bit more circumspect with the information you put on open forum. There are usually 4 times as many 'guests' read these forums as members - we don't know what they do with our collective knowledge - they don't have forum names like 'IworkforEbay' or 'ImaPayPOOspy' so we don't know who is trolling around here.

I'm sure you understand what I'm trying to say to you - be discreet
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I fully understand everything your saying. I have a few 'trusted/respected' members asking to speak on MSN. so will have a few chats with them.
I will be discreet from now on and it wasnt a withdraw, it was a transfer which always goes through and stays through even if the paypal is limited straight after (which was the case,phew for timing)...

Hi Bunny,
all the accounts were that way from the start it seems, i bought a couple of items on each to get some fback, then started listing a couple at a time, which makes me think it is random.

all low-risk, low-value things like used cds, dvds, books, etc.

With the payment hold thing, nothing risky at all, same as the others, so it really does seem like there is a very random element involved in all of this.

Will keep experimenting and see what else happens!

I never had the 21 day hold as far as I remember either.....or maybe once I think way before before I got banned. It was when I opened a 3d ebay account linked to my 1 paypal.

I don't sell much on ebay any more, I'm moving away from them.... but i still use paypal because either we like it or not it is very popular!

its normal

i have done this loads of times.

i just bang high priced items up for sale as soon as i have made new eby pp account, i have had sevral k in several accounts before PP catch up and start to give you the 21day hold and ask for id but it will catch up, needless to say its all withdrawn by that time, in one or two chunks.

Don't sound like luck to me. Sounds like the guy got skills.

You should get his msn :P

haha everyone on the forum loves their MSN...
on my laptop it asks me to pay for msn... maybe i should stop being so tight and pay the £60 p/y for it!...

But yeah, anyone wants to chat PM me.

^ MSN costing £60 a year lol

What is that about?! Sounds like a scam to me! lol