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| smellybelly | 06-22-2011 05:03 PM |
Confirm Your Personal Information - PAYPAL
Ok,
I have just signed up to Paypal using a Business account.
I am trying to lift the limits as you do etc, etc...
the final step of one says 'confirm your personal information'
(this is a stealth account btw so i have given my stealth info...)
then when i type in the stealth info and click submit it comes back saying:
'error, we could not verify your info etc etc... please try again or you may need to fax in documentation...'
and the final question is how would i get round this!!!
THANKS TO THE HELPERS.! |
| Alps_a somewhatlegend | 06-23-2011 03:23 AM |
A couple of options open to you (that I know of) depending on how much you are selling ---- open a few stelts or send in the information they request |
| smellybelly | 06-23-2011 04:19 AM |
yh, because i remember doing it with my own real information about 1/2 years ago... it went through perfectly, then when i use a stealth account, it says error, please try again etc... ffs!!!
then when you send the id/address/invoices etc, paypal always sends a response saying APPEAL DENIED!!! |
| GrannyT | 06-23-2011 06:15 AM |
- they can check your decade as in you are in your 40.s 50s or like some of us 60s. I think it may result in a lot more changes which will bring a whole new set of draconian rules down upon us.
In order to stay going you need to think outside the box and change your business plan and mode of operating. I have two accounts that have been running years rather than months and there was never any need for id docs or checks.
It is expensive, arguably, but if you are intending to build a business rather than get rid of a load of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or Vero items it may well be the only way to go.
IMO the way I do things would be of no use to anyone unless you were going to trade legit goods in a legit manner. You certainly could not afford to have accounts go down after a few weeks or months. You could say that if you have had to invest money in your business you are going to take a lot more care of it.
'The boys' change the rules all the time and never in our favour. The only good thing is they are always playing catch up. You only have to look at the situation now as opposed to three or four years ago to see what I mean.
Lousy times ahead boys - buy combs!
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| goodlad | 06-23-2011 06:28 AM |
You are absolutly right!
However what is the way around this?... Previous have never been Vero items...
Back on to the post...how do we get around the user id check?
I submitted docs and they replied with go back online and input details and there "check" will determine verifying of the account Quote:
Originally Posted by GrannyT
(Post 242406)
They cannot check your DOB - they can check your decade as in you are in your 40.s 50s or like some of us 60s. I think it may result in a lot more ID theft which will bring a whole new set of draconian rules down upon us.
In order to stay legal you need to think outside the box and change your business plan and mode of operating. I have two accounts that have been running years rather than months and there was never any need for id docs or checks on the electoral role.
It is expensive, arguably, but if you are intending to build a business rather than get rid of a load of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or Vero items it may well be the only way to go.
IMO the way I do things would be of no use to anyone unless you were going to trade legit goods in a legit manner. You certainly could not afford to have accounts go down after a few weeks or months. You could say that if you have had to invest money in your business you are going to take a lot more care of it.
'The boys' change the rules all the time and never in our favour. The only good thing is they are always playing catch up. You only have to look at the situation now as opposed to three or four years ago to see what I mean.
Lousy times ahead boys - buy combs!
:pop2:
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| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 09:44 AM |
If you are creating a stealth Paypal account, the automatic verification process always fails because you do not actually live at the address you've provided.
You confirm your identity by doing a phone confirmation and by adding and confirming credit card information. Paypal accept this as alternative to the automatic "electoral register check".
The phone number used for the confirmation must be area specific to the stealth address. The actual address associated the credit card does need to match the stealth details - Paypal currently cannot check this, despite the warnings they put on the site saying the address must match exactly.
This was what I did over a year ago. I don't believe the process has changed any in this time. I successfully set up 5 stealth Paypal accounts using this method - all are still active and without restriction / limits. |
| goodlad | 06-23-2011 10:07 AM |
How do I get to the phone number verification part?? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 242451)
If you are creating a stealth Paypal account, the automatic verification process always fails because you do not actually live at the address you've provided.
You confirm your identity by doing a phone confirmation and by adding and confirming credit card information. Paypal accept this as alternative to the automatic "electoral register check".
The phone number used for the confirmation must be area specific to the stealth address. The actual address associated the credit card does need to match the stealth details - Paypal currently cannot check this, despite the warnings they put on the site saying the address must match exactly.
This was what I did over a year ago. I don't believe the process has changed any in this time. I successfully set up 5 stealth Paypal accounts using this method - all are still active and without restriction / limits.
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| GrannyT | 06-23-2011 10:08 AM |
Way to go Ebayorbust - excellent stealthing and excellent advise to the OP:thumb:
We also have to keep in mind that while we think we are being looked for and persecuted in the great scheme of things we hardly raise a ripple. Every day thousands of people conduct their business with Paypal who cannot prove by public means who they are - we just have to present ourselves as they would and comply with the requests made upon us.
All the stealth techniques needed are in the guide and on these forums - it's all about educating yourself. I'm sure most of the 'guests' who read our tales go away and try and do what we do as a result of what they learn here. Some succeed others do not - but they all come here for one of two reasons. For knowledge or to spy on us.
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| GrannyT | 06-23-2011 10:10 AM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodlad
(Post 242461)
How do I get to the phone number verification part??
| Soho66 - use the search dacility:thumb: |
GTran is on the money on this post - as expected =) |
| GrannyT | 06-23-2011 11:20 AM |
Only applies if you are not on the ER Alps
:pop2: |
| smellybelly | 06-23-2011 12:41 PM |
'You confirm your identity by doing a phone confirmation'
How do i do this? like what you have to do with ebay?
where on paypal is this? i dont see any steps to do a phone verification/confirmation? |
| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 01:11 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alps_a somewhatlegend
(Post 242491)
Hi. Things have changed since then.
On new stelt accounts, one has to send in docs to get the 1900 limit lifted from my experiences - someone correct me if I am wrong which I hope I am!
| No they haven't.
The key to it is to do things in the right order. If you do then you don't have to provide faxed documents etc etc.
To the OP - get the Stealth Guide.
You need to invest some time (and a little money) to get yourself back on Ebay.
You can ask the questions on here and you may get answers but the key to it is doing everything right AND doing it in the right order. No one is likely to invest their time freely to give the necessary one to one coaching to get it right - hence why every newcomer to this forum inevitably gets told the same thing -
BUY THE STEALTH GUIDE.
Hope this helps - good luck. |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 01:39 PM |
Alps
like i have already said on more than a few occasions, it is possible to pass the limit without sending doc's in, my last few accounts are passed the limits without sending doc's in. |
| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 01:46 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alps_a somewhatlegend
(Post 242574)
^ how do you know if you have not made an account in over a year.
I made plenty over last few months and all have got 1900 limit.
It is easy for me to pick someone local from the e.r. and 'clone' their details but I dont want to do that coz I aint gettin' nicked for fraud.
So if you know a way, pray tell :)
| My last receving limit got removed last month (1 year after opening the account because I hadn't actually taken £1900 on the account). No documents were required. The account was put "under review" for a few days and then I got an email stating that as I had provided the information they needed, the limit was removed.
I have also checked on Paypal's website, the verfication / confirmation process now is exactly the same as it was when the accounts were set up.
If you've confirmed your address by adding credit card information / expuse number and complete the phone verification with a suitable landline number you won't have to provide any faxed documentation. If you're using mobile numbers for Paypal then be prepared to send in those "artistic" faxes. |
| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 01:54 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by TizWoz
(Post 242578)
Alps
like i have already said on more than a few occasions, it is possible to pass the limit without sending doc's in, my last few accounts are passed the limits without sending doc's in.
| Spot on.
Although if you do bring a lot of attention to your account(s) before the £1900 "account review" then expect limitations and requests for photo id etc etc. |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 01:55 PM |
thats simple, its because the account is a year old.
like the above has said , the system has changed, dont believe me try open a fresh one.
Also like i say it is still possible to create accounts without providing id, you just have to kno what you are doing. |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 02:00 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 242582)
If you've confirmed your address by adding credit card information / expuse number and complete the phone verification with a suitable landline number you won't have to provide any faxed documentation. If you're using mobile numbers for Paypal then be prepared to send in those "artistic" faxes.
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I couldn't disagree more. |
| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 02:04 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by TizWoz
(Post 242587)
thats simple, its because the account is a year old.
like the above has said , the system has changed, dont believe me try open a fresh one.
Also like i say it is still possible to create accounts without providing id, you just have to kno what you are doing.
| There's no indication of that.
I would try and set another one up but I don't have (or need) any spare bank accounts presently to test this out. I'm fairly confident if I were to repeat the process that I did last time, the outcome would be the same. |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 02:24 PM |
to you maybe but the many forum members it appers not. there is every indication
Like i said try open a fresh one and you, like us will see the changes.
allot of us do this day in day out, think about it. |
| smellybelly | 06-23-2011 02:42 PM |
i remember i made a legit paypal account for my friend
i used their id, their address and cc to complete the verification...
the account was fully verified... then if i can remember i received probably 100-300 USD into the account... got slapped with llimitations, sent documents... then i received an e-mail saying parting ways...?!?! |
| goodlad | 06-23-2011 03:31 PM |
confirmed they have changed system.... |
| Ebayorbust | 06-23-2011 03:59 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alps_a somewhatlegend
(Post 242653)
Ebayorbust...... search about and you will see things are different.
Your info is outdated - sorry for sounding rude - shoot me down if I am wrong - please do
From what you say, if we wait a year and stay under 1900, we will be 'free' after that - most of us cant wait a year to get released
Open an account just to keep you in the loop and see what happens
| Hi,
Yes, have had a read about and yes, the confirmation process has changed. Apologies if anyone has been misled by anything I've said. |
| ShadyOne | 06-23-2011 04:23 PM |
@ebayorburst, believe what the guys are saying or burst! ;) |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 04:41 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ebayorbust
(Post 242658)
Hi,
Yes, have had a read about and yes, the confirmation process has changed. Apologies if anyone has been misled by anything I've said.
| At least your big enough to admit it
Respect. |
| goodlad | 06-23-2011 04:49 PM |
Wished some of you guys would have listened instead of giving the lectures on thinking "outside of the box"
Could be the end of stealthers.... |
| ShadyOne | 06-23-2011 04:59 PM |
@goodlad, A lot of the threads get moved to the 'subscribers section' because they contain "sensitive" info. |
| Stigger | 06-23-2011 05:05 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by goodlad
(Post 242688)
Wished some of you guys would have listened instead of giving the lectures on thinking "outside of the box"
Could be the end of stealthers....
| Anyone that takes that attitude then your right it probably is but for those who think "out side the box" it's not even a hiccup |
| ShadyOne | 06-23-2011 05:25 PM |
@goodlad, you registered on the forum yesterday and are already telling us that it could be the end of stealth :doh:
Carry on with your research. If you bought the stealth guide, then I think you can get access to the subscribers forum. Continue your research in there. |
| smellybelly | 06-23-2011 06:15 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by smellybelly
(Post 242555)
'You confirm your identity by doing a phone confirmation'
How do i do this? like what you have to do with ebay?
where on paypal is this? i dont see any steps to do a phone verification/confirmation?
| You confirm your identity by doing a phone confirmation'
How do i do this? like what you have to do with ebay?
where on paypal is this? i dont see any steps to do a phone verification/confirmation? |
| eBay King | 06-24-2011 11:18 AM |
Tiz,
I tried using the docs and yet they told me to Pi*s Off.
How do you pass the online check? :pop2: |
For Tizwoz to consider PMing you, you should PM first.
I have more to say but I will hold my tongue. TizWoz is a very knowledgeable "fellow". |
| GrannyT | 06-24-2011 12:07 PM |
TizWoz can be a bit grumpy but he certainly knows what he's talking about - just a bit enigmatic at times!!:shocked: |
| Stigger | 06-24-2011 12:24 PM |
enigmatic, had to google that one, i knew the word but not the meaning, prefer it to Grumpy :mad2:
ebay king, your in the wrong part of the forum for answers to questions like that, maybe its time to buy the guide so you can enter the subs. |
| GrannyT | 06-24-2011 12:35 PM |
Quote:
Originally Posted by TizWoz
(Post 242956)
ebay king, your in the wrong part of the forum for answers to questions like that, maybe its time to buy the guide so you can enter the subs.
| :thumb:
:pop2: |
| oompaloompa | 06-24-2011 12:39 PM |
To clarify - lets not tantalize ebayking or other juniors...the method on sub section, IF it works and it might, dont know, needs for you to have set up acc in a certain way in first place, so all existing accs need to submit docs and fingers crossed... |
| Stigger | 06-24-2011 07:56 PM |
why not ?
its where all the juicy info is and its whats been happing since the forum started, Purchase of the stealth guide gets them there.
there is better info in the sub's.
i reckon the subs has more relevant/better info these days including my info or not and i reccon there is much more to come.
Other peole have done the same thing, tut.
You might not know it works but i do :-) |
| oompaloompa | 06-25-2011 03:30 AM |
I did not say the sub section did not have better info, thats obvious, just pointing out that going to subs is not going to get an acc that has already been asked for docs lifted using this particular method..went from hints and saying we might be eb spies, to blabbing the whole thing within week..signature says it all, replace the I with a they and get it right....:doh: |
| smellybelly | 06-25-2011 10:35 AM |
1) it is a business account yes.
2) it is a real UK address that i just decided to pick out and use.
3) the business name is not registered on a companies house... just a random name i thought of and decided to use (i also selected myself to be a sole trader... easier that way)...
how is that sounding? |
| oompaloompa | 06-25-2011 10:42 AM |
well its sounding like theyll want docs then...
so its just a residential address, not a business one, I take it. |
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