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Another person selling them for £5.86 and sold 1,300 with 20 feedback! New '¹TOMS Women's and Men's Canvas shoes Size:UK3-UK13 | eBay Crazy

Same guy

Has another ID selling similar as well

Yer more than likely, There are loads of sellers now! Dam, my sister has 2 genuine pairs and they definitely are not worth the £35 rrp!

Crazy - and a pre-07 account too!

They have all been old accounts Lumberjack - I'm intrigued as to where they are getting them (the accounts) and they are quoting UK locations - serious stuff going on here - I think Hoo Flung Dung might be coming through here soon - or is he already on top of his game.

Reminds me of the Mac brushes and the Malaysian accounts

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If they are using old accounts, quite possible bypassing pa yp al smartly....

It's pros like this who will never come to forums and spread their knowledge. So keep dreaming.

Aint that the truth - across their accounts today they have 'done business' of over £20,000. Whether they will get the money or not is another matter but hell they must have been setting this up for ages.

So far I have identified 12 different IDs and there are more coming on every day. 2 came on today. I wonder what tomorrow will bring?

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'pros'? more like scam artist.

Absolutely - but this didn't happen over night. I'm amazed that T&S haven't been all over it

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Mr. Wun Hung Low should PM me immediately

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I don't care. They are pro's at what they do, regardless of their motives or morale. I am in no way condoning stealing thousands of dollars from innocent people. Not my point here.

I would pay thousands of dollars for someone to teach me how they do this. These TOMS shoes are far from being the only product I have seen these sellers pull this stunt with. There are hundreds of extremely popular items out there selling like crazy.

I am an honest seller and would ship $10,000-$20,000-$30,000 worth of product if I had the right items and was taught how to create accounts that can pull this kind of revenue without getting in trouble. And hell, I don't need all that anyways. Give me $500 in sales per day and I am happy, but the point is, we all need solid accounts that can pull this off right from the beginning. Not all of this waiting 30, 90, 180 days and building up feedback bullsh*t.

The simple fact is that you would have to be selling foo-foo's to sell these items at the prices you would need to attract that sort of amount of sales before ebay/paypal got onto you.....

selling legit with these popular designer products would also be very hard to actually make any decent margins on not to mention if VeRo would let you in the first place...

if you operate accounts properly and have accounts running alongside and back-ups you dont need to wait for the 'bullshi*t' as you put it. :doh:

Im quite tempted to buy them just to see if they turn up! :P

Hence why I said their revenue of $20k+ in one day is not necessary.

I am not going to argue with you on this. Some of us have the right connections and knowledge on products and some don't. I am currently working on a product that can sell $2,000-$4,000 per day and is legitimate product. But, is EB and PP going to let me fly out of the gate with sales like that? F*ck no, even with legit invoices, they won't let it happen.

So, firing up the accounts in the way these guys do is something of interest to myself and others like me.

what do you think they use the emails from the paypal payments to then create a buyer list? sounds strange.

You forget the power of pre-07 accounts - many other discussions about this...

think thats wot he means... :spy:

Is that just because you dont need to accept paypal on pre 2007 accounts or is there other benefits? ive found a guy who sells pre 2007 accounts with feedback

Much easier to get around pa yp al supposedly.

just had a look that these toms on ebay loads of accounts selling them as grannyt said all with mega amounts of negs now wonder what they were trying to do

Probing eB for vulnerabilities.

Anyone else notice that some of the self-feedbacks are from high fb accounts? I guess when labor is cheap, it's easy to nurse those accounts by the boatload. Only if I can figure out how to broker the sales of those accounts here...