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My master plan to try and open a UK EBAY and PayPal
 

I will get 10 new bank accounts, with different banks withint the uk. Even though they will be registered in my real name and address- paypal cannon see this information and will not be able to link accounts.

I will obtain 10 prepaid anonymous credit cards, and use an individual card to verify and setup 10 individual ebay and paypal accounts.

I will use a false name and address on every ebay account- ebay cant touch me this way. ebay cant link me. I'm untouchable.

I will verify each account via payphone box in the uk, a different box for each one. After they are verified, i will change the phone number on ebay to an indiviual cell phone number so if they do call- i can answer.

I will creat 10 different users on my pc- each user will be associated with each paypal and each individual ebay account. Cookies cannot be linked this way.

Each time i go to log into an account, i will reset my ip address- I cannot be linked.

Most importantly- I will keep detailed written records of every accounts details.

What do you guys think, am i missing anything?

You forgot the part, that you need stuff to sell on ebay,

Oh that part it MORE than covered, believe me :D

Im not sure this part works properly anymore, also i would imagine if you deleted your house number and added a call phone number a flag would be raised?? Im not sure???

Also how are you going to do this on paypal?

Do you need phone verification for paypal now aswell then (havn't signed up a new account in years).

As for the phone box method- it does work- i used it yesterday :D

wushu yes you do !
You didnt need to do the phonebox method with ebay :/ Only paypal!!!!!

You will have a hard time trust me!

Either find a mate, family member or anyone you can access a property :) Like work

I did need to have phone verification on my new ebay account i made yesterday- to sell it made me? But i used a credit card to pay my fees.

Are you saying If i use a paypal account to pay ebay fees they won't ask for phone verification (on ebay) before i can sell?

The other thing i have been wondering- when you guys set up these ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal accounts do you use ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address details that don't match those on your bank/credit card?

wushu mate your a broken record lol, have u read stealth??
Ebay you can verify with alot of tollforwarding companies and voip's but paypal u cant, it needs to be a physical proper landline number.

Also everything on ebay must match paypal.

Yes everything can be ⊗⊗⊗⊗ except for you bank account numbers!!!! The name of the bank account holder can be ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Make sure you dont use a bank account which you have used in the past either!

I believe you need a landline number in the UK these days for phone verification.

No i havn't got ebay stealth mate.

I am still considering buying it and weather or not i really need it.

I personally don't see the point in paying for verifiactin from a toll company though mate, when you can use a local phonebox free which is a proper landline number!? And then after it is verified you can add a mobile number, so when ebay do call (if they do) they can actually reach you on one of your numbers on file.

Regardin the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address/name etc. Thats fantastic, this is going to be easier to do than i first thought! I guess the only difficulty would arrise if you wanted to buy something on ebay they may send it to the wrong address!

Phone box is a landline number mate!

wushu i work for british telecom mate a phone box is not a physical address!!!!!!!!! When paypal do the phone verification they wont be able to match the phone to the correct address so they will send a code via mail, NOW where will that code go ????? Nowhere!! So your screwed then. Listen to us for crying out loud, if you want to argue i'll give up now.

I'm not arguing- i thought it worked as it worked with my ebay account.

Ebay phone and paypal phone are 2 completely different systems!

Ebay's phone verification is simple to get past but that number must match the same one on paypal which is not so simple ;)

I see.. on some of my accounts though, the address is different to that of my paypal. And i verfied my paypal by way of letter- is this going to raise concern?

What telephone service would you recommend to someone wanting to create say 5-10 new accounts?

if your address's are diff on ebay and paypal and are linked yes it will raise a flag.

I cannot suggest a good service but to go and use all your familys real address's numbers etc, aslong as they dont have acc's

If we do not have access to real address's and phone numbers, is the best thing to do to use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address and one of the phone services used by others on this site?

THanks for all your help btw, this is a brilliant forum!

mate, the voip's services do not work for paypal !!! So u need a real Number.

Now you need a real address which matches that phone number also as paypal match it up with the address on a new database, so you need to use your works or familys, somewhere you can use their address and phone. Simple as at the moment, its very very hard to get verified now!

Oh right, i see! I think i must have been reading some old posts from the site, sorry for the confusion!

Damn.. theyrre making it really difficult

No Match
 

My numbers do not match. Ebay have my real phone number in Spain but Paypal only allow a UK number and address so they have my dads. When I had to verify I simply got him to answer his phone, call me with the code and I put it in to Paypal. Really is a secure way to verify everyone!

My UK bank account is still used on my Paypal account but the default address input screen stays on United Kingdom and the phone number cannot be prefixed with the Spanish country code. Bit stupid really - my bank do not care that I have a UK account but live in Spain so why should it bother Paypal?

Anyway, my phone numbers for Paypal and ebay do not match and have not matched for the past 4 years. Whenever Paypal decide to flag me to verify my phone number I just get my dad to do it again and call me with the code. You have to do it quickly otherwise you run out of time and then they send it to the registered address (my dad) in the post. Now that really is security that works!!

Maya

I've purchased the ebay stealth mate, and follow all the steps to create an paypal account and ebay account, however, when i add my bank account to the paypal account (different name with the paypal account), and try to withdraw the fund to that account, it finally returned and a handling fee is charged, can anyone help? how can i withdraw the money in my ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal account to my real account?

thanks for your help

What exactly have you done with paypal & bank account. Is paypal verified or
limited?

hello

it's a brand new paypal account using the entropay to get verified already and it's linked to my brand new ebay account also, however, when i add my real bank account and try to withdraw money to the bank, it was returned :confused: and said the information is not matched with my paypal account, please advise

thanks

Has anyone else had this problem? Does thi mean that thename has to be real name on yr bank account?

rmwong888 did u resolve this issue yet?

i have just got a new ebay acount and paypal aco**** after beeing suspended both i had no problem using the info on this site. but i have have made a mistake i think. i have them in difrent adress. but both the same phone numbers.i have won items and paid by check no problem there . but when i start to sell and take payments will i get suspended again. or do i change the name and adress on the paypal account befor i list or will this get me flaged.

Multiple paypal accounts
 

I don't have a problem with paypal accounts - just keep opening new ones with prepaid cards in different names and using it up to the limits - I know i 'm risking being suspended if they are linked but I haven't so far on 6 accounts - I just make sure I always spend the money when i get another £hundred and also make sure no customers have reason to complain.

They all have the same tel numbers for contact & I haven't been collared yet.

it's a pain - being verified would make life much easier but can't get a new bank account due to being bankrupt so I have to make do.

Now Trying to open new Ebay accounts IS proving a nightmare - I've tried eveything I can think of including virtual tel number sites & voip -= get the ebay call fine but can't get any method I've tried to recognise the touchtone number they ask you to press before getting the code.

I'm serously thinking about geting new BT line with 2 numbers at £150.. i figure I can get 6 new accounts open with 2 numbers which works out at £25 per account which i should be able to make before getting chucked off agin.

Ps i never rip people off with ebay just sell 'grey area' merchandise.

No, i can't withdraw the money from that ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal account to my real bank account, i think the guideline in the ebay steathly is somewhat misleading, i can do nothing but sent the money to my real paypal account and withdraw it, good luck

Hi Paul,

if you're having trouble getting a bank account due to bankrupt status, you may be able to get an account from thinkbanking (online & via phone) - no credit check and its a managed account that costs £12 per month. Yorkshire Bank also do a similar low status account that works. (via branches).

Equilibrium :cool:

Equil, that sounds good, i will be opening one very soon and will report back :)

How about using the address on the Phone box?

Fone Verificatiopn Trix
 

Hi pauldigital

Don't bother getting a new land line installed mate. I have a bit of info that is going to make u smile like a new born baby

I had the same trouble with trying to enter the verification code via a toll forwarding number because it wouldn't recognise the touch tone.

The way around it is:

1) Get your mobile and in the 'profiles' tab set the keypad volume to maximum.

2) receive the verification call from ebay

3) Hold the SPEAKER of your mobile to the MICROPHONE of your landline handset.

4) Dial the verification code into your mobile

5) Job done! the verification software will recognise the tones from your mobile phone VIA your landline handset.


Good luck with it but i GUARANTEE it will work.

PS - You can chuck that £150 that you were going to spend on the land lines my way if you like :D

Can anyone confirm that this will work. Also, if there's no landline available (calls redirected to an overseas mobile) could this be done using another mobile?

So your saying Redirected geographical numbers routed to your own line then use a mobile phone? Will someone try this please and report back!!

Mant,

They don;t really have an address, last i knew is they go by the nearest house number.
Example.

If it was near No.1 Rockfield Road i think it's PTO 1 Rockfield.

Not 100%. But you wont receieve any mail there lol, probably would go to the house.

fone verification
 

definately works 100%. I did it 2 weeks ago.

If any one else has tried it... please report back to confirm this neat little trick

Vood, is thi sjust with ebay or ebay and paypal ?

fone verification
 

I did it with ebay. but if they also use a touch tone system with paypal, theoretically it should also work with them.

It works with anything that uses touch tone. you can even dial people's numbers into your land line using your mobile :eek:

If anybody has any success using this method to verify Paypal I would be grateful if you could please let us know.

Mobile to landline method
 

Hi Voodoo..

Thanks a mill forthat advice - goin to try it tonight and I'll let u all know how it goes. Bit of a pain that my free trial has ended but what's a fiver or a tenner if it works? nothing.

I'll b back.

Fingers crossed!

story so far
 

ok,
got a new e-bay account by using one friends address and another friends phone number, couldnt match them up, they are not in same area but its the best i could do.
so managed to get the phone verifcation etc and got the e-bay account and its ok for buying only. Tried to sell and it said it wouldnt let me, hard to understand error message but think it wants paypal verified or more verification, the paypal account i just set up is obviously not verified, so it seems i have to set up new current account which is a pain.
ANYWAY ROUND THIS? IS IT THAT THE ADDRESS and NUMBER i gave flagged something up for more verifcation, not sure, but in the past when i used my now suspended account, there werent these prob just gave real address and number, obviously matched up and i was away.
i linked paypal and e-bay account together.
Other thing is, how do you get them to verify by post (send you a slip), when i signed up for e-bay seller account it would only let me do phone verifcation, what do you press to get other type, it didnt seem to want to let me not enter a phone number, i entered a mobile first and it said it tried to phone it but couldnt. i tied saying id pay seller fees by paypal then tried debit card, still wanted phone verification.