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ooooo.halo 01-23-2015 04:02 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 634570)
Tried again with Entropay same outcome I'm afraid Barclays won't give me the code as it creates a security issue I spoke with them last night and again this morning. At least I got this in writing forwarded it to Entropay who can't take any further action. They've asked me do I want to try and verify again. I think after 5 times I'll give this one up and go down a different path. Thanks to all for your help it is appreciated.

If the issue seems to be with barclays...can you not try with another bank if you have another one.
Could be any visa i guess coz they dont share info.
Perhaps ask entropay to remove the.barclays.completely and start again with another bank group.
I might be wrong, but its just a thought.
At the beginning of joining entropay, they just need to verify you by your card which you will use to fund the cards. So another card might work.
See what others think or if you are fed up, go another route :-)

joffieJaffa 01-24-2015 02:02 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 634573)
If the issue seems to be with barclays...can you not try with another bank if you have another one.
Could be any visa i guess coz they dont share info.
Perhaps ask entropay to remove the.barclays.completely and start again with another bank group.
I might be wrong, but its just a thought.
At the beginning of joining entropay, they just need to verify you by your card which you will use to fund the cards. So another card might work.
See what others think or if you are fed up, go another route :-)


Could be a waste of a bank account if he has one already added.

Much better to just buy a one off vcc.

zexaah 01-24-2015 02:54 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Vanilla Visa.

GreenBean 01-24-2015 03:42 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zexaah (Post 634722)
Vanilla Visa.

right on the ball there.

Except for ONE major point.

The majority of posters with issues are ALL from the UK. There is no Vanilla Visa in the UK.

:pout:

RosieTosie 01-24-2015 03:54 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 634570)
Tried again with Entropay same outcome I'm afraid Barclays won't give me the code as it creates a security issue I spoke with them last night and again this morning. At least I got this in writing forwarded it to Entropay who can't take any further action. They've asked me do I want to try and verify again. I think after 5 times I'll give this one up and go down a different path. Thanks to all for your help it is appreciated.

I can echo this, as I have said in couple of previous posts, Barclays just are not receiving or are not prepared to give us the Entropay code, they can see Entropay London, but that is all, and this seems to be the situation whatever I call the code or whatever time of day I ring them, whether this has anything to do with the code only being visible to them for a brief period of time, and we have no way of knowing when in the day that brief period of time is!

GreenBean 01-24-2015 04:56 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Barclays have always been snotty about helping.

Some of their tellers act like the funds are coming out of their own wallet.

:pop2:

rsot 01-24-2015 10:54 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 633453)
So you trade in the UK but are based in Canada?

3V has problems with top ups if attempting voucher top up

I use all kinds of platforms to see markets - bidders know exactly where item comes from

ooooo.halo 01-24-2015 11:29 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
[quote=joffieJaffa;634708]Could be a waste of a bank account if he has one already added.

Much better to just buy a one off vcc.[/quote

Thought other person was using his.barclays to be the card linked to entropay to fund all the.vcc,s.
It wouldnt be a waste of a bank account as he is referring to the problem with entropay, not pp. They dont share details.

But i agree that if OP can get another vcc, it would save all the hassle.

Bunneh 01-24-2015 11:51 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by joffieJaffa (Post 633373)
:violin:

you will be lucky if the account is still here in a weeks time if you actually added the Lloyds

LLoyds is only reported as being bad with use on Paypal NOT entropay.
I have 2 lloyds accounts FINE on my entropay accounts.

I phoned lloyds and they sent me to collections to get my approval code.

Dont know what reason you have for saying lloyds is wrong.

ooooo.halo 01-24-2015 11:56 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 634846)
LLoyds is only reported as being bad with use on Paypal NOT entropay.
I have 2 lloyds accounts FINE on my entropay accounts.

I phoned lloyds and they sent me to collections to get my approval code.

Dont know what reason you have for saying lloyds is wrong.

Mine are lloyds too bunneh :-)

Bunneh 01-24-2015 12:02 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 634848)
Mine are lloyds too bunneh :-)

LLoyds has been the easiest to add in my opinion :d

joffieJaffa 01-24-2015 01:22 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 634846)
LLoyds is only reported as being bad with use on Paypal NOT entropay.
I have 2 lloyds accounts FINE on my entropay accounts.

I phoned lloyds and they sent me to collections to get my approval code.

Dont know what reason you have for saying lloyds is wrong.



yer i know...i miss read the post, i thought he was talking about paypal verification.

warez 01-24-2015 06:39 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 634728)
right on the ball there.

Except for ONE major point.

The majority of posters with issues are ALL from the UK. There is no Vanilla Visa in the UK.

:pout:

Just to add,from u.k and was in Wilkinsons today.they do vanilla visa £25
And £50.
Has anybody tried these?
Regrads warez

gibbo 01-29-2015 03:19 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Callidus, PM sent...

RosieTosie 01-29-2015 04:54 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warez (Post 635046)
Just to add,from u.k and was in Wilkinsons today.they do vanilla visa £25
And £50.
Has anybody tried these?
Regrads warez

We have a Wilkinson store in our nearest main town, never noticed in they do these vanilla visa's, on the other hand if they only do them in £25 and £50 values, that sounds suspiciously like other pre-paid cards in this country that once you have used the money on them they cannot be reloaded, so you literally can only use the £25 or £50 and then that's it, you might as well throw them in the bin, they certainly wouldn't be any use for anything that needed to be paid or had a value over £50 and could never be used again anyway, the other thing with pre-paids in the UK is that they cannot be linked to PayPal anyway, maybe in the future, but definately not now.

Bunneh 01-29-2015 06:33 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 636508)
We have a Wilkinson store in our nearest main town, never noticed in they do these vanilla visa's, on the other hand if they only do them in £25 and £50 values, that sounds suspiciously like other pre-paid cards in this country that once you have used the money on them they cannot be reloaded, so you literally can only use the £25 or £50 and then that's it, you might as well throw them in the bin, they certainly wouldn't be any use for anything that needed to be paid or had a value over £50 and could never be used again anyway, the other thing with pre-paids in the UK is that they cannot be linked to PayPal anyway, maybe in the future, but definately not now.

This is why 3V is best, you can send money from one card number to another :bounce:

RosieTosie 01-29-2015 06:45 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 636525)
This is why 3V is best, you can send money from one card number to another :bounce:

3v sounds like it coukd be a very useful option Bunneh, so they can be topped up as well eh! One of the few widely accepted cards of it's type available to us here in the UK.

Bunneh 01-29-2015 06:51 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 636527)
3v sounds like it coukd be a very useful option Bunneh, so they can be topped up as well eh! One of the few widely accepted cards of it's type available to us here in the UK.

not topped up, but you can buy multiple cards or receipt numbers and transfer from one to another.

RosieTosie 01-29-2015 07:23 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 636529)
not topped up, but you can buy multiple cards or receipt numbers and transfer from one to another.


Right I see, so there is no limit in theory to the numbers of 3v cards that could be bought, because that is another problem with pre-paid cards in this country they can be small limits on how many one person can buy. I bought one from the post office, it was one of their generically created pre-paids, it coukd definately not be used with paypal, in fact it was very gradually being introduced for any sort of Internet buying, and that was only towards the end of last year so recent

manwithaplan 01-30-2015 07:50 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Tried to confirm a stealth with 3V yesterday Paypal wouldn't accept it so it looks like VCC's from the wonderful people on here is my only route now.

joffieJaffa 01-30-2015 07:58 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 636947)
Tried to confirm a stealth with 3V yesterday Paypal wouldn't accept it so it looks like VCC's from the wonderful people on here is my only route now.

Could have told you that ages ago

:bounce:

ooooo.halo 01-30-2015 08:05 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 636947)
Tried to confirm a stealth with 3V yesterday Paypal wouldn't accept it so it looks like VCC's from the wonderful people on here is my only route now.

Or entropay is a good option suitable for stealth.
Yes, a chew on sometimes with codes but entropay usually deal with any probs you have if you drop them a message :-)

manwithaplan 01-30-2015 03:24 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
I'm going to have one final go at Entropay there's a saying along the lines that "if you sling enough mud at something it eventually sticks" (Kept it clean)

I hope this is the case!

RosieTosie 01-30-2015 03:36 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 636952)
Or entropay is a good option suitable for stealth.
Yes, a chew on sometimes with codes but entropay usually deal with any probs you have if you drop them a message :-)

Having said that halo honey, they stopped replying to my emails to them when I could not get that authorisation code from Barclays late last year!, one or two forum members have since commented that maybe Barclays Bank is not the best bank for using if people want to use Entropay, as they deny ever seeing the code when we ring them up, I had to abandon my attempts and move on!

ooooo.halo 01-30-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 637085)
Having said that halo honey, they stopped replying to my emails to them when I could not get that authorisation code from Barclays late last year!, one or two forum members have since commented that maybe Barclays Bank is not the best bank for using if people want to use Entropay, as they deny ever seeing the code when we ring them up, I had to abandon my attempts and move on!

Agreed...yes people do seem to have been.having probs with barclays.
I use Lloyds....a couple of teething probs in the beginning but was easily resolved.
So agree....perhaps adding a different bank to Barclays might be a wise move to save all the hassle :-)

RosieTosie 01-30-2015 03:54 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 637089)
Agreed...yes people do seem to have been.having probs with barclays.
I use Lloyds....a couple of teething probs in the beginning but was easily resolved.
So agree....perhaps adding a different bank to Barclays might be a wise move to save all the hassle :-)

Barclay's still works great for stealth accounts, so changing the bank just to try and use Entropay will not always be the best option, some people may prefer to just use different VCC, there are no doubt some super one's that can be bought in the marketplace on this forum that are perfectly useable with eBay/PayPal.

comp07974 01-30-2015 04:00 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Entropay are ace, became a member 2 days ago and tonight I hold the premier account. Used TSB for my verification and the code was on my statement within a day.

katty 02-01-2015 07:58 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Not sure why anyone is having problems with Barclays in terms of entropay. I have the Barclays app and the entropay code was on within a working day, very very easy to see.

ooooo.halo 02-01-2015 08:27 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katty (Post 637474)
Not sure why anyone is having problems with Barclays in terms of entropay. I have the Barclays app and the entropay code was on within a working day, very very easy to see.

Thats good to hear. Have never used Barclays, so its good to hear someones had a positive outcome when others have met problems :-)

gibbo 02-01-2015 09:58 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Just to put this thread to bed...

Managed to get 3V card accepted by PP and attached bank account.

Sold few low-value items and took about £50.

Couple of days later Paypal limited me and are asking for Photo ID...

I've pretty well given up on this account now. Maybe try again from scratch. It's a shame, because I had access to the stealth address and SOME of the documents PP asked for....just can't get the photo ID.

ooooo.halo 02-01-2015 10:29 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637493)
Just to put this thread to bed...

Managed to get 3V card accepted by PP and attached bank account.

Sold few low-value items and took about £50.

Couple of days later Paypal limited me and are asking for Photo ID...

I've pretty well given up on this account now. Maybe try again from scratch. It's a shame, because I had access to the stealth address and SOME of the documents PP asked for....just can't get the photo ID.

Photo ID neednt be a problem. Be creative :shhh:

katty 02-01-2015 08:12 PM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 637479)
Thats good to hear. Have never used Barclays, so its good to hear someones had a positive outcome when others have met problems :-)

Yeh. I was surprised as I really thought I'd have to ring up to ask. I think people may be looking at the wrong place or should get the Barclays app or even use online banking because the 6 digit number was displayed as part of the sender details on the transaction, so it has EPXXXXXX (x is the numbers), and it was these numbers that were needed.

EDIT: I've just been reading through this thread and it seems like there might be some misunderstanding as the code that entropay require to verify the VCC is something that we DO see and not just the bank but as mentioned above people may be looking at the wrong place as it definitely appears on the bank statement. I'll try and upload screen shot of the app tomorrow which shows the transaction so people know what to look for.

Bunneh 02-02-2015 02:14 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by katty (Post 637632)
Yeh. I was surprised as I really thought I'd have to ring up to ask. I think people may be looking at the wrong place or should get the Barclays app or even use online banking because the 6 digit number was displayed as part of the sender details on the transaction, so it has EPXXXXXX (x is the numbers), and it was these numbers that were needed.

EDIT: I've just been reading through this thread and it seems like there might be some misunderstanding as the code that entropay require to verify the VCC is something that we DO see and not just the bank but as mentioned above people may be looking at the wrong place as it definitely appears on the bank statement. I'll try and upload screen shot of the app tomorrow which shows the transaction so people know what to look for.

Yes katty but most of the time it glitches and does not show the code on the statement.

It happens on a lot of different banks and statements.

And when this happens you have to get the payment authorazation code or approval code from the bank to prove it went through.

manwithaplan 02-02-2015 05:56 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Just to update at the sixth time of asking I got the Entropay code. 4 times with Barclays and twice with Lloyds. Taken me over 3 weeks but finally there. Onward and upward. Don't know how I did it must have just got lucky. When I get my statement it will probably be plastered with codes but just couldn't see them online until this morning.

manwithaplan 02-02-2015 06:06 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
As far as 3V are concerned I've given up now and used it on something else. I suspect Paypal have a algo which can search for these and highlight them. I daresay they are working on one that will do the same for Entropay accounts very soon.

Interesting though on the 3V website that there is an advert advising customers that they can use these vouchers / cards for Paypal transactions. You have to wonder if 3V are linked in anyway to Paypal. 3V will have a list of valid card numbers created from vouchers and I did notice the format of the numbers on mine were slightly different could this information be given to Paypal to run through their system and any number it sees flags the account?

ooooo.halo 02-02-2015 06:39 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 637741)
Just to update at the sixth time of asking I got the Entropay code. 4 times with Barclays and twice with Lloyds. Taken me over 3 weeks but finally there. Onward and upward. Don't know how I did it must have just got lucky. When I get my statement it will probably be plastered with codes but just couldn't see them online until this morning.

Well done. Glad you got there in the end :-)

ooooo.halo 02-02-2015 06:41 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 637743)
As far as 3V are concerned I've given up now and used it on something else. I suspect Paypal have a algo which can search for these and highlight them. I daresay they are working on one that will do the same for Entropay accounts very soon.

Interesting though on the 3V website that there is an advert advising customers that they can use these vouchers / cards for Paypal transactions. You have to wonder if 3V are linked in anyway to Paypal. 3V will have a list of valid card numbers created from vouchers and I did notice the format of the numbers on mine were slightly different could this information be given to Paypal to run through their system and any number it sees flags the account?

Theres been no reports as far as im.aware that 3V are risky. But like anything, things change and we just need to stay one step ahead all.the time.
Entropay is by far the best in my opinion. Easy to navigate and just seems so much simpler to me :-)

Bunneh 02-02-2015 07:09 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 637743)
As far as 3V are concerned I've given up now and used it on something else. I suspect Paypal have a algo which can search for these and highlight them. I daresay they are working on one that will do the same for Entropay accounts very soon.

Interesting though on the 3V website that there is an advert advising customers that they can use these vouchers / cards for Paypal transactions. You have to wonder if 3V are linked in anyway to Paypal. 3V will have a list of valid card numbers created from vouchers and I did notice the format of the numbers on mine were slightly different could this information be given to Paypal to run through their system and any number it sees flags the account?

3V is not affiliated eith Paypal.. people need to stop being so completely paranoid about everything.

All card numbers operate the way you describe.

At least 3V is an AVS card and can help when an account is limited to conrim location.

manwithaplan 02-02-2015 07:23 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 637758)
3V is not affiliated eith Paypal.. people need to stop being so completely paranoid about everything.

All card numbers operate the way you describe.

At least 3V is an AVS card and can help when an account is limited to conrim location.

Yes a good point keep it simple and don't overthink things do the basics and it should all work out.

joffieJaffa 02-02-2015 10:51 AM

Re: Entropy are hopeless, any other Prepay Card?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by manwithaplan (Post 637743)
As far as 3V are concerned I've given up now and used it on something else. I suspect Paypal have a algo which can search for these and highlight them. I daresay they are working on one that will do the same for Entropay accounts very soon.

Interesting though on the 3V website that there is an advert advising customers that they can use these vouchers / cards for Paypal transactions. You have to wonder if 3V are linked in anyway to Paypal. 3V will have a list of valid card numbers created from vouchers and I did notice the format of the numbers on mine were slightly different could this information be given to Paypal to run through their system and any number it sees flags the account?


Paypal do know what cards are been added wheather its a vcc or a real bank card and can stop them been added if they so choose.

Im not saying that its happening right now but it can do , so its not a bad thing to be aware of it.


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