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comp07974 01-29-2015 02:03 PM

Account created, what next?
 
So i have set up my new stealth account using a VCC and also an account. Got the account verified via a SIM card i have brought and have both paypal and ebay running alongside each other ( same account names and address's etc )

I think now is the hard part, trying to keep these accounts open and not getting requested to provide ID etc.

Any tips? I have made a new user account on my PC and have recently , 3 weeks ago, changed my broadband provider. I am using mozzilla firefox with a security plug in that removes the flash cookies every 2 seconds.

Any other tips at all?

ooooo.halo 01-29-2015 03:15 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636640)
So i have set up my new stealth account using a VCC and also an account. Got the account verified via a SIM card i have brought and have both paypal and ebay running alongside each other ( same account names and address's etc )

I think now is the hard part, trying to keep these accounts open and not getting requested to provide ID etc.

Any tips? I have made a new user account on my PC and have recently , 3 weeks ago, changed my broadband provider. I am using mozzilla firefox with a security plug in that removes the flash cookies every 2 seconds.

Any other tips at all?

My main tip would be to.start SLOW

Give your account browsing and bidding history before you do.anything. When its time to.sell, slow is the key, as is low value unrisky items to begin with.
You need to earn ebays trust. As your account progresses you will be able to start to introduce your own products.
When you to that point, check back into forum, as some items really aernt ever worth selling as can cause risk to your account.

When you are able, make more accounts. Good to have back ups :-)

123 01-29-2015 03:26 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
get some buyer feedback / list a book as your first item / get good seller feedback

comp07974 01-29-2015 04:29 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Thank you both, both my paypal and ebay are the same stealth name and address however, i do not have too much access to that address, how can i buy the goods but get them delivered to myself? I dont want to add my original shipping address as it will flag up will it not?

123 01-29-2015 04:30 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Just buy cheap stuff $5 or less / doesnt matter if it gets delivered to you or not / just give seller positive feedback and he will do the same

comp07974 01-29-2015 04:36 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
no problem, will order a few bits from china ;-)

Mikiboy 01-29-2015 04:41 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Just leave the cookies build up your browser.
Ebay likes that.
Just use different user account on your computer.

RosieTosie 01-29-2015 04:48 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636700)
no problem, will order a few bits from china ;-)

Not the best approach for starting up a brand new stealth account! What if eBay ask you to upload any invoices for the items you are listing or have sold? The only invoices you would have would be from China, that would raise flags, eBay do not like Chinese goods that are usually counterfeit.

Why don't you go and have a look in some pound shops for items that may look like you can list them and sell them for a bit more than you paid for them, stationery items are good to list as well, and with these items as a starting point for your new account you won't have any Chinese problems!

comp07974 01-29-2015 04:51 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 636710)
Not the best approach for starting up a brand new stealth account! What if eBay ask you to upload any invoices for the items you are listing or have sold? The only invoices you would have would be from China, that would raise flags, eBay do not like Chinese goods that are usually counterfeit.

Why don't you go and have a look in some pound shops for items that may look like you can list them and sell them for a bit more than you paid for them, stationery items are good to list as well, and with these items as a starting point for your new account you won't have any Chinese problems!

So sorry i think you got the wrong end of it, i mean i will just buy some 99p bits from china for myself as a buyer to build up my buying feedback. sorry, should of made it clearer

ooooo.halo 01-29-2015 07:36 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636698)
Thank you both, both my paypal and ebay are the same stealth name and address however, i do not have too much access to that address, how can i buy the goods but get them delivered to myself? I dont want to add my original shipping address as it will flag up will it not?

You really dont need to buy anything.
Buyers feedback is not important....its selling feedback which is important :-)

ooooo.halo 01-29-2015 07:37 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636700)
no problem, will order a few bits from china ;-)

You really dont need to.
I did the same thing on my first account until i was told by many that its pointless. Its the feedbacj from selling that counts, not buying.
Seriously, dont waste your money :-)

RosieTosie 01-29-2015 07:44 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Yes, compO, buying feedback is useless to a seller, you will get much more value from your selling actions on eBay, you really do only need to concentrate on getting that selling feedback and as much of it as you can, just not too quickly, these days in the UK the one and only way to go is to sell sub zero risk items quite slowly to start with very gradually building up after about 2/3 months to sell what you want to sell

ooooo.halo 01-29-2015 07:44 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 636710)
Not the best approach for starting up a brand new stealth account! What if eBay ask you to upload any invoices for the items you are listing or have sold? The only invoices you would have would be from China, that would raise flags, eBay do not like Chinese goods that are usually counterfeit.

Why don't you go and have a look in some pound shops for items that may look like you can list them and sell them for a bit more than you paid for them, stationery items are good to list as well, and with these items as a starting point for your new account you won't have any Chinese problems!

:yar:

Unless im reading wrong, OP is buying solely to get the feedback. Totally not necessary.
Whats important is that OP gets browsing history, acts like a newbie on the help pages, bids on stuff not even gonna win, watch items etc

Ive never bought from any of my accounts but one and they were cheap hairclips with free delivery lol.
Later found that its a pointless exercise if it doesnt count towards your good standing on ebay.
I like your suggestion, if there is nothing at home, visit the pound store and.sell.it on. Some of the stuff is pretty good which u could easily get shifted for more monwy.
I dont know about you Rosie, but i dont like to list new on a new account. So if it was me, id list as used in item specifics but in main listing put new.
Thats what ive always done.
:-)

ooooo.halo 01-29-2015 07:47 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Sorry Rosie
Cross posted, we did.
Dont shout at me :pound:

comp07974 01-30-2015 09:37 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
My account is only young but i am still learning the tricks of the trade, im fully verified on paypal and have passed my verification on ebay to sell. Been looking and bidding on xbox one games so might sell one or 2 of them over the coming 2/3 weeks and get the 21 day limit lifted.

rsot 01-30-2015 09:46 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636700)
no problem, will order a few bits from china ;-)

Aim for more on UK side...or North American side if you wish :)

ooooo.halo 01-30-2015 09:51 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636967)
My account is only young but i am still learning the tricks of the trade, im fully verified on paypal and have passed my verification on ebay to sell. Been looking and bidding on xbox one games so might sell one or 2 of them over the coming 2/3 weeks and get the 21 day limit lifted.

Not entirely sure that xbox games would be a good starting point on a new account.
Just my opinion :-)

comp07974 01-30-2015 10:12 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
OK, well it is what i have looked at buying on there and doing some bidding on so I think that would be my best step at selling. Ive tried to make my browsing history match my selling history as such.

This is account number one remember and hope I can keep it going. Just another quick question tho, i see people mention 30 ,60 and 90 days account ages. I take it these are stages to hopefully "PASS" as such?

ooooo.halo 01-30-2015 11:28 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636984)
OK, well it is what i have looked at buying on there and doing some bidding on so I think that would be my best step at selling. Ive tried to make my browsing history match my selling history as such.

This is account number one remember and hope I can keep it going. Just another quick question tho, i see people mention 30 ,60 and 90 days account ages. I take it these are stages to hopefully "PASS" as such?

I really do think you.should avoid computer games till you have some.selling.history behind you. Your browsing history does not need to match your selling.
There are other safer items to list on a new account.
:-)

realdeals 01-30-2015 02:08 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by comp07974 (Post 636640)

Any other tips at all?

Always be prepared for the next stage.....get 3,4,5 stealth accounts running.....always nice to know you have back up. Also, rather than having a 10 item a month limit you get 5 x 10= 50 limit. Limit increases on accounts can be unpredicable, so it is better to spread things out and then you have more chance that one account may be a 'jackpot' account.

Don't buy items and sell them on the same account, this by definition would make you a 'business' user and create unwanted attention.

RosieTosie 01-30-2015 03:21 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Absolutely the best approach there from realdeals, 3,4,5 stealth accounts that you are nurturing along on the sidelines so that if an account does go down you can pick up with the others seamlessly with more or less the same income coming in for you. Halo's advice to drop the computer games as your listed items on new accounts as well is the way forward, computer games are considered very high risk by eBay as they can be and definately are targets for counterfeiters.

Also as advised, sell different items on the different you have, different wording on the items in each account, listing them at different times of the day, different passwords even as well, passwords that are too similar can potentially raise eBay flags.

gibbo 01-31-2015 07:58 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
I've been selling Set-top boxes (as they used to be called before the TV Makers removed the tops) for many years until ebay limited me.

If I start selling these with my stealth accounts, will they attract unwanted attention from Paypal or ebay?

rsot 01-31-2015 10:02 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637229)
I've been selling Set-top boxes (as they used to be called before the TV Makers removed the tops) for many years until ebay limited me.

If I start selling these with my stealth accounts, will they attract unwanted attention from Paypal or ebay?

Depends on the brand and the popularity - forum is meant for stealth setup....how you operate is your business and takes savvy on your part. Is your product considered risky?

gibbo 02-01-2015 06:51 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
I don't know what is considered risky. I guess you only find out the hard way..

As I can only list 10 items month, there's no point is selling stuff for a few pennies... I need to sell something with a bit of value.

realdeals 02-01-2015 07:09 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637229)
I've been selling Set-top boxes (as they used to be called before the TV Makers removed the tops) for many years until ebay limited me.

If I start selling these with my stealth accounts, will they attract unwanted attention from Paypal or ebay?

are your stealth accounts personal accounts?

realdeals 02-01-2015 07:10 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637459)
As I can only list 10 items month, there's no point is selling stuff for a few pennies... I need to sell something with a bit of value.

This attitude will only lead to tears in the long term.........stealth is a marathon not a sprint. ;)

gibbo 02-01-2015 07:20 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Realdeals, OK, I get your point.

And yes, it's a personal account. Does that make any difference?

realdeals 02-01-2015 07:22 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637469)
Realdeals, OK, I get your point.

And yes, it's a personal account. Does that make any difference?

Are the boxes new or used?

Running a personal account so blatantly as a business from day 1 will get you flagged, no doubt.

ooooo.halo 02-01-2015 07:39 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637459)
I don't know what is considered risky. I guess you only find out the hard way..

As I can only list 10 items month, there's no point is selling stuff for a few pennies... I need to sell something with a bit of value.

Theres every point in my opinion. This is how stealth works. You cannot rush in.with high value goods. Stealth is a slow process. Cheap and cheerful in the beginnibg is absolutely necessary. You need to gain ebays trust.
Yes its frustrating which is why if possible its advised to make a few accounts to.spread the sales.
Do it the proper way and youll be able to increase your sales in terms of better stuff to list, plus get some limit increases

gibbo 02-01-2015 07:51 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Thanks for the advice. I'll think about keeping the value of the items down..

That being said, I am Selling Humax or BT Freeview Recording boxes, (used not new) and I would need to sell at least 10 a month to exceed the £650 limit.

As I will nearly always be within the £650 limit, does that mean I am still being stealthy?

ooooo.halo 02-01-2015 08:35 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637473)
Thanks for the advice. I'll think about keeping the value of the items down..

That being said, I am Selling Humax or BT Freeview Recording boxes, (used not new) and I would need to sell at least 10 a month to exceed the £650 limit.

As I will nearly always be within the £650 limit, does that mean I am still being stealthy?

This is why i agree with real deals....selling those ONLY on a.single 10 item limit account, is asking for trouble. Your screaming out ""Business ""doing this.

Its ultimately your decision but low value used with variety is best.
I sell used clothing on new accounts. Yes, all in clothing category but they are not all identical dresses for example. Hope you understand what im trying to say :lol:

gibbo 02-01-2015 08:42 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
I got it, thanks...I'll leave the Set Top Boxes for a few months..

realdeals 02-01-2015 08:52 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637481)
I got it, thanks...I'll leave the Set Top Boxes for a few months..

No need, just spread one each accross multiple stealths and just list fillers to max out your 10 limit.

ooooo.halo 02-01-2015 09:50 AM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbo (Post 637481)
I got it, thanks...I'll leave the Set Top Boxes for a few months..

Its the issue of selling 10 on a 10 limit account that poses the risk.Mix them in.with other stuff so it doesnt look like youre just selling set top boxes.

I really dont know if set top boxes are even.good on a new account. i always thought electrics was a bad move but perhaps not.. i.really havent.got a.clue to.be honest :lol:

Good.luck and go super slow to begin with:-)

gibbo 02-01-2015 12:18 PM

Re: Account created, what next?
 
Thanks, I'll be sure to let everyone know what happens, and even help if I can...


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