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wrighty 02-03-2015 10:15 AM

hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Hello everyone!
My first post.

I was wondering if any of you could help me out ?
I have a question.
I have found a virtual address costing roughly £20 a month.
Will I have to do this for every stealth account I create? If I have say ten stealth accounts that would be £200 a month on address alone ?

Thanks in advance

Wrighty

ooooo.halo 02-03-2015 03:43 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 638126)
Hello everyone!
My first post.

I was wondering if any of you could help me out ?
I have a question.
I have found a virtual address costing roughly £20 a month.
Will I have to do this for every stealth account I create? If I have say ten stealth accounts that would be £200 a month on address alone ?

Thanks in advance

Wrighty

In theory yes.
We dont give out company addresses due to overuse...but all i will say is that there ARE cheaper ones out there.
Search well.for them. When i started stealth, the address was probably the lenghiest operation out of everything. Spend time.researching
:-)

RosieTosie 02-03-2015 03:53 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 638126)
Hello everyone!
My first post.

I was wondering if any of you could help me out ?
I have a question.
I have found a virtual address costing roughly £20 a month.
Will I have to do this for every stealth account I create? If I have say ten stealth accounts that would be £200 a month on address alone ?

Thanks in advance

Wrighty

Have a look on google for different options. Remember as well if your successfully operate 10 stealth accounts, after the initial building up of the account and selling low risk items to get over the initial stage, you should be able to bring in much more than your initial outlay on mailing addresses!

wrighty 02-04-2015 12:44 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Thanks for getting back to me guys.
Great advice I was up late last night hunting down some more options.

Is it advisable to stay away from po boxes?

Thanks again.

What a great forum !!

comp07974 02-04-2015 11:42 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 638612)
Thanks for getting back to me guys.
Great advice I was up late last night hunting down some more options.

Is it advisable to stay away from po boxes?

Thanks again.

What a great forum !!

Try googling mail forwarding services, not tried them but they must be cheaper?

katty 02-05-2015 02:29 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ooooo.halo (Post 638233)
In theory yes.
We dont give out company addresses due to overuse...but all i will say is that there ARE cheaper ones out there.
Search well.for them. When i started stealth, the address was probably the lenghiest operation out of everything. Spend time.researching
:-)

Can I just ask: would you not need different virtual addresses for the different stealth accounts? By that i mean different providers of virtual offices?

rsot 02-05-2015 03:06 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Post office boxes work well :)

wired 02-05-2015 04:07 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 638236)
Have a look on google for different options. Remember as well if your successfully operate 10 stealth accounts, after the initial building up of the account and selling low risk items to get over the initial stage, you should be able to bring in much more than your initial outlay on mailing addresses!

Thats until PayPal does the third party fraud team credit check and limits the account :)

slokor 02-05-2015 04:18 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
For the record - having access to the address is not an absolute must.
I myself do NOT have access to the addresses I use and Ive never had any issues.
Then again - it really depends on the items you sell, your type of activity and other such factors relating to your stealth practices.

RosieTosie 02-05-2015 04:23 PM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 639086)
Thats until PayPal does the third party fraud team credit check and limits the account :)

This is the great unknown of course at the moment, what will it take to get passed the scrutiny of PayPal when an account is approaching that EU limit of £1900

wired 02-06-2015 04:09 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 639093)
This is the great unknown of course at the moment, what will it take to get passed the scrutiny of PayPal when an account is approaching that EU limit of £1900

Its not unknown really, you cant beat a credit check with incorrect detals. Its that simple. So use the accounts till they burn but dont invest into to much in them.

RosieTosie 02-06-2015 05:32 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 639257)
Its not unknown really, you cant beat a credit check with incorrect detals. Its that simple. So use the accounts till they burn but dont invest into to much in them.


So you are sayings this even though you must be aware of the new PayPal ID identification issues that are just about halting everyone involved the UK in their tracks when they reach that EU limit, even people in the US are aware of this ! It is anything but SIMPLE Wired!

wired 02-06-2015 05:54 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 639274)
So you are sayings this even though you must be aware of the new PayPal ID identification issues that are just about halting everyone involved the UK in their tracks when they reach that EU limit, even people in the US are aware of this ! It is anything but SIMPLE Wired!

I think you have gotten yourself confused. You have just agreed with me but made out like you didn't lol

Yes that is the problem, the identification issues stage 1 are overcome by good docs, when they eventually go through the system and get manually looked at by the third party investigation agencies, who do further checks including credit checks, thats it , game over.

So basically accounts are only good for the EU limit, and then anything after is luck. Some may get months, some weeks, some days. But you can't beat a manual background check with the current guise of account making.

wrighty 02-06-2015 06:40 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
I didnt realise that the stealth accounts now cant go over the EU limit. So it sounds like there is no way of making a stealth that will last?
Or a stealth account that can generate reasonable money?

:(

RosieTosie 02-06-2015 07:07 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 639284)
I didnt realise that the stealth accounts now cant go over the EU limit. So it sounds like there is no way of making a stealth that will last?
Or a stealth account that can generate reasonable money?

:(

That is the big stumbling block and has been since PayPal brought in their new ID verification checks at Christmas, until a way is found around this, making as many new stealths as we can seems to be the only option and then it is hit and miss whether the docs with them will make it through those checks somewhere around the EU £1900 limit!

Bunneh 02-06-2015 07:21 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
If you all bothered to read other threads instead of throwing hot air and freaking everone out for no other reason other than personal gain you would know
what the current solution is.

Dont reply to threads when you dont know what you are talking about really!

Callidus 02-06-2015 07:32 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
wired - maybe you should step your game up with the new changes.

No issues with any accounts over here that have been made since the new changes....;)

wired 02-06-2015 08:56 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 639294)
If you all bothered to read other threads instead of throwing hot air and freaking everone out for no other reason other than personal gain you would know
what the current solution is.

Dont reply to threads when you dont know what you are talking about really!

Im not sure if you where referencing me or Rosie Bunneh - if it was me - 'Personal gain'? Thats a confusing statement, I don't sell accounts, therefore I have no personal gain. You guys on the other hand do sell accounts, so the same could be said that you play down the problems for your own personal gain?

No freaking out at all, just making a very good point and one many are thinking, I'm just more vocal about it that's all and its an open public forum, opinions are allowed ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Callidus (Post 639298)
wired - maybe you should step your game up with the new changes.

No issues with any accounts over here that have been made since the new changes....;)

Thats good going, hopefully they will hold out , only been a month I guess, they are still working with the backlog and people shouldn't be nearing the EU limit yet if doing it properly. Fingers crossed, I hope that it does work out for all though, I detest PP and eBay as much as everyone and hope that we win in the end.

Lets revisit this conversation in three months I guess and if they are all holding out way above the EU limit, then i'll bow to you and eat my words with Tobasco sauce :)

rsot 02-06-2015 09:22 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 639089)
For the record - having access to the address is not an absolute must.
I myself do NOT have access to the addresses I use and Ive never had any issues.
Then again - it really depends on the items you sell, your type of activity and other such factors relating to your stealth practices.

It's only really necessary if you worry about returns....as a side point

Bunneh 02-06-2015 09:24 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 639323)
Im not sure if you where referencing me or Rosie Bunneh - if it was me - 'Personal gain'? Thats a confusing statement, I don't sell accounts, therefore I have no personal gain. You guys on the other hand do sell accounts, so the same could be said that you play down the problems for your own personal gain?

No freaking out at all, just making a very good point and one many are thinking, I'm just more vocal about it that's all and its an open public forum, opinions are allowed ;)



Thats good going, hopefully they will hold out , only been a month I guess, they are still working with the backlog and people shouldn't be nearing the EU limit yet if doing it properly. Fingers crossed, I hope that it does work out for all though, I detest PP and eBay as much as everyone and hope that we win in the end.

Lets revisit this conversation in three months I guess and if they are all holding out way above the EU limit, then i'll bow to you and eat my words with Tobasco sauce :)

Wired i have no personal gain here either. If you looked at my seller thread i do not sell limits lifted accounta nor do i advertise i lift the receiving limits either.

But every post you write is a negative one. This forum is to help people get back on or at ebay not to make them scared or run away... we are here to help.

If this was a different type of forum you would probably try to convince people not to leave there house incase they got run over by a bus.

But like i said before. You need to read other threads made on this before making assumptions.

wired 02-06-2015 09:35 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 639333)
Wired i have no personal gain here either. If you looked at my seller thread i do not sell limits lifted accounta nor do i advertise i lift the receiving limits either.

But every post you write is a negative one. This forum is to help people get back on or at ebay not to make them scared or run away... we are here to help.

If this was a different type of forum you would probably try to convince people not to leave there house incase they got run over by a bus.

But like i said before. You need to read other threads made on this before making assumptions.

There is personal gain, selling accounts that, if the PayPal troubles continue, will only exist for a short while, nothing to do with selling EU docs etc. Getting people back on ebay - yes great, awesome, and helped me out loads..never denied that at all.. but I feel its fair to discuss what to possibly expect. I guess if you advertised the current question mark over the PayPal situation on your for sale threads, it would be more obvious to new people?

Anyways, im not here to slate a persons operations or get into a slanging match, where as you may feel my posts are negative, I feel 'realist' is a better term ,for example, the majority of Green Beans posts are negative, but many are also the reality in many cases. There are negative times at the moment with PP and all should be prepared for it.

Remember though, always look both ways for buses before you cross the road. Not scaremongering, just being safe :)

Bunneh 02-06-2015 09:41 AM

Re: hello everyone can i get some advice please
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 639340)
There is personal gain, selling accounts that, if the PayPal troubles continue, will only exist for a short while, nothing to do with selling EU docs etc. Getting people back on ebay - yes great, awesome, and helped me out loads..never denied that at all.. but I feel its fair to discuss what to possibly expect. I guess if you advertised the current question mark over the PayPal situation on your for sale threads, it would be more obvious to new people?

Anyways, im not here to slate a persons operations or get into a slanging match, where as you may feel my posts are negative, I feel 'realist' is a better term ,for example, the majority of Green Beans posts are negative, but many are also the reality in many cases. There are negative times at the moment with PP and all should be prepared for it.

Remember though, always look both ways for buses before you cross the road. Not scaremongering, just being safe :)

Fyi i do advertise it. But you are still missing the point..


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