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Originally Posted by just_smile (Post 678951)

Ill stick up for wired here, sometimes its not the money or time thats important, but the principle.

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 678952)

Principle almost always has cost me money and TIME that I can never get back BUT everyone is different.

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 678967)

Time for lawyers to take over

Originally Posted by wired (Post 678964)

I agree, principles can be a pain to keep...but essentially , its all we have, money and time can be taken away very quickly and easily, principals can't, they are what makes us, 'us'

:)

Interested about the Ombudsmen though definitely, i like the 'pay you a level of compensation' part :)

Originally Posted by isitworththestress (Post 678998)

I prefer: If an ombudsman receives lots of complaints about similar issues, it can ask an organisation or government department to review or change the way it works, which will improve things for other people.

Personally I don't just think it is principle but also common sense as if people just keep letting it slip then it will never stop so all power to you.

As long as you have the other accounts to keep you fed while your principles are working on the wrong account.

People keep saying that their two hours is too important, as if they have no leisure time and all they do is work twenty four, seven. If that is so then you are doing it wrong.

Originally Posted by wired (Post 678913)

Are you back on the sugar again? Everythings quieter when you don't eat sugar, so filling out a little paperwork, takes around two hours, so thats essentially around £47 an hour. Pretty good odds...and comes with the satisfaction of getting something back from ebay. Thats a win for me.

If you would rather pretend to be unfortunate and homeless, well, thats a very cruel thing to do, don't chance karma brother, you might never know where you will end up.

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 679164)

Nope, all healthy and fine, no need to worry.

You see, we just have different mindsets when it comes to stuff like this I guess:
It's not just 2 hours of paperwork- he actually needs to do a bit of research, post this thread on the forum, keep reading about it. Then somebody throws him a quote or a line and he will go a bit deeper into the rabbit hole and once he has CLEAR understanding of what it takes to actually do this, only then can he spend that couple of hours on paperwork.
That's just the start of it, that doesn't solve the case or guarantee him his money back or anything.

I'm not sniggering at him because it's £97, because money is money. BUT, I personally can't see how would it be productive to spend time doing all the thinking and then the physical act of filling out the paperwork, when you could spend that same time and energy on something much more productive.

If you want to talk about principles, then I guess I just have different principles than you:
I, out of principle, refuse to get drawn into these sorts of cases where I know that the BEST outcome for me would be getting my £97 back, whilst spending X amount of hours chasing it.
The WORST possible case? Countless hours spent, not getting my £97 back?

I guess I just think differently and my principles are orientated around productiveness in its purest form- If the numbers make it worthwhile, I'm all down to do it, but if something has too many IFs and BUTs and I can't see the clear cut way of achieving the wanted results, then I just need to decide is it worth it or not- This case would not be worth it for me.

BUT, if I was in a different situation and I really needed that money and it was hurting my earnings, life and well being in general, I can see how I'd be more incline to at least CONSIDER pursuing this.I still feel I wouldn't though, I'm just not that kind of a person


Can't quite believe you are trying to take a moral highground on an example that was illustrating how much of a timewaste this would be, in my mind. Desperate move.

Originally Posted by wired (Post 679012)

Lol, yes, wasnt there a comment earlier about even finding time to 'think' about taking the to court? I am so glad my life is not that hectic, awful way to live, been there and done that. :thumb:

Originally Posted by wired (Post 679172)

I jus stick up for myself, and will always right whatever wrongs have been done to me by others. I don't bend over when I get abused and take it like 5ft skinny prisoner in maximum security, I fight back.

I highly doubt most people would walk away from a job paying your £47 an hour with a whole load of satisfaction thrown in, thats pure productivity in my opinion.

You used a homeless person in you represent how they would earn more sitting outside with a board, pretty awful behaviour if you ask me, no matter what the 'point' was you wanted to make.

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 679179)

It feels like you need to go and blow off some steam, my man.
You are reading what I write, but you are not processing it- If you want to take my points and thoughts out of context and then just type up a ****storm, then be my guest, but don't get too carried away.

The whole point I was making was that it's not the simple "oh pretty good £47 an hours if you'd ask me" because it's not really 2 hours, is it.

You went really dark there with the whole prison stuff. You seem pretty aggressive... You sure you are not grumpy about something else in your life?

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 679190)

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Oh, you are adorable.

Originally Posted by Haidukken (Post 679179)

It feels like you need to go and blow off some steam, my man.

You went really dark there with the whole prison stuff. You seem pretty aggressive... You sure you are not grumpy about something else in your life?

Originally Posted by wired (Post 679182)

You seem to of getting quite personal now, thats always a very giving sign.