| | | j4ck100 | 08-09-2015 06:09 PM | Legal implications of Stealth Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught? |
| muzzie | 08-09-2015 06:13 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Noone cares about who got money, if it is legal, and taxes were paid in full. You just go to SRS and declare your income in your bank account, pay taxes and sleep well. |
Re: Legal implications of Stealth When it comes to money...Uncle Sam wants his cut, plain and simple. |
| jeffweico | 08-09-2015 10:50 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Exactly. You are breaking eBay's rules, but that is not the same thing as breaking the law.
I explain it like this: You might have a "No Smoking" rule in your house. If I come over and rudely light up and refuse to put the cigarette out, you could call the police and they will escort me from your premises. But I won't go to jail, because there is no LAW that says I cannot smoke in your house. I broke your rule, but not the law. |
| slokor | 08-10-2015 01:00 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Thats what I love about stealth. If done properly the only entity that youre 'screwing over' is ebay and paypal. I got no issue with doing that whatsoever. Not after the hell they put me through before I was familiar with stealth - a process they put so many people through every single day. |
| wired | 08-10-2015 01:31 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 693543)
Thats what I love about stealth. If done properly the only entity that youre 'screwing over' is ebay and paypal. I got no issue with doing that whatsoever. Not after the hell they put me through before I was familiar with stealth - a process they put so many people through every single day. | The real irony is that we aren't even 'screwing' over Ebay or PayPal, they still get their rather large cut.. |
Re: Legal implications of Stealth eb and PP get their fees paid, govt gets their taxes, buyers are happy (hopefully) - all is well |
| empirestate | 08-10-2015 02:14 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth It's all about them fees bout them fees no trouble... lol |
| Haidukken | 08-10-2015 02:40 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 693568)
buyers are happy | You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia. |
| wired | 08-10-2015 08:43 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by Haidukken
(Post 693584)
You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia. | By jove, I think thats one of the most agreeable things you have ever said :) |
| muzzie | 08-10-2015 09:47 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth There are certain countries that are like Narnia in terms of doing stealth. |
| arktech | 08-10-2015 09:49 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by Haidukken
(Post 693584)
You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia. | I just looked on the royal mail and parcel2go site and neither ship to Narnia ! |
| arktech | 08-10-2015 09:50 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by j4ck100
(Post 693489)
Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught? | What is false info ? |
| arktech | 08-10-2015 09:53 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 693523)
Exactly. You are breaking eBay's rules, but that is not the same thing as breaking the law.
I explain it like this: You might have a "No Smoking" rule in your house. If I come over and rudely light up and refuse to put the cigarette out, you could call the police and they will escort me from your premises. But I won't go to jail, because there is no LAW that says I cannot smoke in your house. I broke your rule, but not the law. | I do not break ebay or paltalk rules. i have great difficulty trying to remember them off by heart and comprehending them because they are so incomprehensible. |
| arktech | 08-10-2015 09:55 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by j4ck100
(Post 693489)
Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught? | Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk |
| wired | 08-11-2015 12:21 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by arktech
(Post 693720)
Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk | Huge UK tax evaders like Amazon.
The UK government probably have some staff getting back handers to keep it that way. Loopholes in taxation laws are created intentionally to help companies like this.
Big business = immunity, disabled poor people = jail time, thats the UK way! |
Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by arktech
(Post 693713)
I just looked on the royal mail and parcel2go site and neither ship to Narnia ! | You have failed - Aslan and his counterpart Aspkin are unhappy |
| stevebills | 08-11-2015 08:14 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by arktech
(Post 693720)
Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk | Ebay and Paypal dont pay there taxes as they use offshore companys and offshore accounts and to be honest all big corporates like Starbucks avoid tax this way thats why the countries in debt and I believe there is over 33 trillion in offshore accounts :eek: |
| stevebills | 08-11-2015 08:18 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre £620,000 of tax on sales worth over £1.3 billion last year. |
| dan_ebay | 08-11-2015 09:09 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebills
(Post 693991)
It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre £620,000 of tax on sales worth over £1.3 billion last year. | And people think its morally right to pay their fees after they ban you lol. Its morally right not to pay, more money staying in the UK and more money going to the government lol.
In the meantime hmrc chuck people in jail for dodging 100k in tax whilst they're still paying xx,xxx per year to ebay, irony overload |
| Klemantina | 08-11-2015 11:28 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Look at the bright side, they have more income left = more employees = less unemployment = more taxes being paid
Huge companies have many many ways to avoid taxes, they can just pay to other countries, donation funds and many other ways which aren't always bad. |
| wired | 08-11-2015 11:41 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebills
(Post 693991)
It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre £620,000 of tax on sales worth over £1.3 billion last year. | Sh*t, ive paid more than that from my wages :) |
| Bunneh | 08-11-2015 11:48 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by stevebills
(Post 693989)
Ebay and Paypal dont pay there taxes as they use offshore companys and offshore accounts and to be honest all big corporates like Starbucks avoid tax this way thats why the countries in debt and I believe there is over 33 trillion in offshore accounts :eek: | Dont pick on starbucks they make wicked hot chocolate [emoji12] |
| wired | 08-11-2015 11:50 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by Bunneh
(Post 694048)
Dont pick on starbucks they make wicked hot chocolate [emoji12] | with the souls of Ethiopian child cocoa farmers...:) |
| oompaloompa | 08-11-2015 11:56 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth true, but if the ethiopians could do any better, then they wouldnt need to... |
| wired | 08-11-2015 12:00 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 694052)
true, but if the ethiopians could do any better, then they wouldnt need to... | Im telling Bob Geldof about you... |
Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 694052)
true, but if the ethiopians could do any better, then they wouldnt need to... | :eek: oompa take it easy |
| dan_ebay | 08-11-2015 01:09 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 694038)
Look at the bright side, they have more income left = more employees = less unemployment = more taxes being paid
Huge companies have many many ways to avoid taxes, they can just pay to other countries, donation funds and many other ways which aren't always bad. | ...it doesn't result in more employees atall lol, just more profit to shareholders and bribes to george osbourne and friends |
| Klemantina | 08-11-2015 02:29 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth I'm not going to argue about that because i don't know exactly how they operate. I just want you to look at the bright side, maybe if they did pay the full amount of taxes, they wouldn't exist now and I really prefer eBay on amazon,etsy etc... |
| stevebills | 08-11-2015 02:55 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 694086)
I'm not going to argue about that because i don't know exactly how they operate. I just want you to look at the bright side, maybe if they did pay the full amount of taxes, they wouldn't exist now and I really prefer eBay on amazon,etsy etc... | If they paid taxes the country wouldnt be broke and there would be more jobs |
| flowclothingco | 08-11-2015 06:02 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth EB and PP are private companies and dont even have access to look at your bank account attached all youre doing is basically using a DBA and virtual address as long as you follow the federal law to pay your taxes youre golden and doing it right....keep track of your business expense and write it all all off (AKA everything you buy ever) if you do stealth right you can pull in huge quanities of money and wont have to worry about keeping it legit.....just dont put all your eggs in one basket diversify and stay ahead of them.... |
| stevebills | 08-13-2015 10:39 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth I am going to save my ebay fees and give them to the tax man as a gift |
| yankee | 08-13-2015 10:48 AM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth The one thing I know for sure is that ALL of us have a limited amount of time left. One day, every single one of us is going to die |
| stevebills | 08-13-2015 04:35 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 694761)
The one thing I know for sure is that ALL of us have a limited amount of time left. One day, every single one of us is going to die | I would rather live and die rich than be poor :clap: |
| dealagreeproceed | 09-14-2015 09:49 PM | Re: Legal implications of Stealth Quote:
Originally Posted by noledud
(Post 704869)
Hi Guys
Just thinking about this and i think that there is a part of stealth you over looked ?
How many of you have had to send in some form of ID to paypal ?
Im sure there are a few different laws broke with that one, i know because of the look of my dads face when i told him lol. | parents just don't understand:nono:
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