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Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught?
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Noone cares about who got money, if it is legal, and taxes were paid in full. You just go to SRS and declare your income in your bank account, pay taxes and sleep well.
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When it comes to money...Uncle Sam wants his cut, plain and simple.
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Exactly. You are breaking eBay's rules, but that is not the same thing as breaking the law.

I explain it like this: You might have a "No Smoking" rule in your house. If I come over and rudely light up and refuse to put the cigarette out, you could call the police and they will escort me from your premises. But I won't go to jail, because there is no LAW that says I cannot smoke in your house. I broke your rule, but not the law.
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Thats what I love about stealth. If done properly the only entity that youre 'screwing over' is ebay and paypal. I got no issue with doing that whatsoever. Not after the hell they put me through before I was familiar with stealth - a process they put so many people through every single day.
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Thats what I love about stealth. If done properly the only entity that youre 'screwing over' is ebay and paypal. I got no issue with doing that whatsoever. Not after the hell they put me through before I was familiar with stealth - a process they put so many people through every single day.
The real irony is that we aren't even 'screwing' over Ebay or PayPal, they still get their rather large cut..
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eb and PP get their fees paid, govt gets their taxes, buyers are happy (hopefully) - all is well
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It's all about them fees bout them fees no trouble... lol
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buyers are happy
You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia.
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You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia.
By jove, I think thats one of the most agreeable things you have ever said
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There are certain countries that are like Narnia in terms of doing stealth.
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You can cheat the system, even avoid taxes if you really want to live life on the edge but have happy customers? Now you are talking about something that can only happen in Narnia.
I just looked on the royal mail and parcel2go site and neither ship to Narnia !
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Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught?
What is false info ?
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Exactly. You are breaking eBay's rules, but that is not the same thing as breaking the law.

I explain it like this: You might have a "No Smoking" rule in your house. If I come over and rudely light up and refuse to put the cigarette out, you could call the police and they will escort me from your premises. But I won't go to jail, because there is no LAW that says I cannot smoke in your house. I broke your rule, but not the law.
I do not break ebay or paltalk rules. i have great difficulty trying to remember them off by heart and comprehending them because they are so incomprehensible.
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Always wondered this - If you pay your taxes etc but operate under false info, does this count as fraud & has anyone ever been caught?
Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk
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Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk
Huge UK tax evaders like Amazon.

The UK government probably have some staff getting back handers to keep it that way. Loopholes in taxation laws are created intentionally to help companies like this.

Big business = immunity, disabled poor people = jail time, thats the UK way!
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I just looked on the royal mail and parcel2go site and neither ship to Narnia !
You have failed - Aslan and his counterpart Aspkin are unhappy
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Do Ebay and paypal pay UK taxes or are they in a different country to the uk
Ebay and Paypal dont pay there taxes as they use offshore companys and offshore accounts and to be honest all big corporates like Starbucks avoid tax this way thats why the countries in debt and I believe there is over 33 trillion in offshore accounts

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It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre 620,000 of tax on sales worth over 1.3 billion last year.
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It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre 620,000 of tax on sales worth over 1.3 billion last year.
And people think its morally right to pay their fees after they ban you lol. Its morally right not to pay, more money staying in the UK and more money going to the government lol.
In the meantime hmrc chuck people in jail for dodging 100k in tax whilst they're still paying xx,xxx per year to ebay, irony overload
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Look at the bright side, they have more income left = more employees = less unemployment = more taxes being paid
Huge companies have many many ways to avoid taxes, they can just pay to other countries, donation funds and many other ways which aren't always bad.
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It has been revealed that the online auction giant paid a meagre 620,000 of tax on sales worth over 1.3 billion last year.
Sh*t, ive paid more than that from my wages

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