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ebayoo 01-08-2009 01:36 AM

can i use Entropay VCC to verify paypal
 
dear all, can i use Entropay VCC to verify paypal
because Entropay VCC is a credit card NOT a bank account


please help thanks

oompaloompa 01-08-2009 06:05 AM

entropay will verify paypal in most cases, make sure addresses match.

reported not working by some forumers, but that is possilby due to them bashing the address changer too much,

thered 03-21-2011 12:43 PM

After a little help i have loaded my entropay card transfered and made a different address to validate paypal

I can see it has taken £1 from my entropay card ( although its not on statement yet) but when i click on confirm card on paypal it just takes me to verify with bank account page

am i doing something wrong or do i need to wait for it to show on the statement paypal before i can verify and confirm card

Thank you

Imakemoney 03-21-2011 12:45 PM

you need to wait for it to show on your entropay statement (takes 2-3 days) - mine took two working days.

Once the amount appears on your entropay statement you will get given a four digit code which you then enter into your paypal...then BOOM no limits fingers crossed.

thered 03-21-2011 12:53 PM

Thanks so just a little patience then i was under the impression it was instant

couple of quick questions if i may

Should i wait till im verified to open ebay account or strike now?

what happens when or if paypal want ID proof of address ect what then?

thanks in advance

Imakemoney 03-21-2011 01:21 PM

No its not usually instant despite what some people may say on here.

Ideally I would wait until you are verified and your ebay account is atleast 30 days old until selling.

You cant really say when they will ask for that. If you've given them info on your business, and once verified through entropay card then they shouldnt (didnt on my latest) ask for them straight away.

You may be asked to verify a landline phone number have you done this yet? - If not take a look at soho66 for this.

Start selling SLOW as possible to limit the chance of being asked for these documents and build up a credibility. Also try avoid sellin VERO items especially in the beginning.

Hope this helps

thered 03-21-2011 02:18 PM

does that soho66 work diverted to a mobile or will they not let me verify like that

thanks

Imakemoney 03-21-2011 02:22 PM

I think you should check all your stealth methods over...for example:

-Have you got new IP
-Keeping cookies seperate
-Stealth name and details

If your not doing these and many more steps I would reccommend buying the stealth guide to help you understand how to stop your accounts from being linked to suspended ones and how to stay under the radar.

In regards your question yes with soho66 the number can be diverted to your mobile phone.

thered 03-22-2011 02:36 AM

yes i have new ip and a new stealth name i have firefox set to delete history and i use ccleaner everytime i go on

what do you mean keep cookies seperate?

Alps_a somewhatlegend 03-22-2011 03:28 AM

Soho works perfect when diverted. I have 10 lines diverted to 1 mobile - soho lets you upload a voice file for different lines, so depending on whichever line rings, the voice file plays first so I can identify who the call is for - nice feature.

I think by keeping cookies seperate the poster means have different user windows user names for each different eb account - that ways you dont need to clear cookies and it also helps keeping ebay 'mellow' as it will be happy seeing some sort of cookies once in a while on your computer.

thered 03-23-2011 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alps_thecheekyone (Post 212799)
Soho works perfect when diverted. I have 10 lines diverted to 1 mobile - soho lets you upload a voice file for different lines, so depending on whichever line rings, the voice file plays first so I can identify who the call is for - nice feature.

I think by keeping cookies seperate the poster means have different user windows user names for each different eb account - that ways you dont need to clear cookies and it also helps keeping ebay 'mellow' as it will be happy seeing some sort of cookies once in a while on your computer.

thanks i like that idea would that mean i need to pay 10 line rentals though


also what is the best way to get an address as buying multiple virtual addresses is going to get expensive and i do need to have something for returns

GreenBean 03-23-2011 07:00 AM

Why moan about costs if you are doing business?:croc:

Imakemoney 03-23-2011 08:44 AM

agreed, every business incurs costs to make profit.

If your business isnt making enough money to cover a few quid here or there for essentials such as an open phone line for ebay/paypal maybe your in the wrong business.

motorfinger 03-23-2011 09:10 AM

^^
totally agree with Imakemoney

thered 03-23-2011 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 213092)
Why moan about costs if you are doing business?:croc:

i am not a business i am a private seller i need to get off the ground first i dont want to get tied up in deals that may or may not work

if everything works ok i will do alright but i have to start again and that means slowly slowly with no feedback

i can afford a few phone lines as they are only cheap but virtual addresses seem very expensive unless i am looking in the wrong places and i am very wary about getting all set up in virtual land and then have to provide some kind of ID for a person who doesnt exist

i would probably meet paypals £1900 in less than a month being tied up to virtual deals could cripple me i could end up blackballed with the 180 day paypal thing but still have all my bills to pay

any suggestions please or cheap virtual addresses

Imakemoney 03-23-2011 05:54 PM

thered I would reccommend before you sell on the account lifting the limits £1900 limit on the account.

Ive just done this last week on one of my accounts.

All i did was input the info they asked for (stealth name address etc.) and then told them type of business (sole trader for me) and other little bits they ask for....then I used entropay also then BOOM limits removed.

Let me know if you need me to explain that a little better but i seriously would remove the limits before you start selling otherwise if you try and remove them further down the line they will want more info from you such as suppliers invoices etc etc etc.

In regards the virtual address I dont know much about the options here but im sure others will help you out soon as they read this.

GreenBean 03-23-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thered (Post 213182)
i am not a business i am a private seller i need to get off the ground first i dont want to get tied up in deals that may or may not work

if everything works ok i will do alright but i have to start again and that means slowly slowly with no feedback

i can afford a few phone lines as they are only cheap but virtual addresses seem very expensive unless i am looking in the wrong places and i am very wary about getting all set up in virtual land and then have to provide some kind of ID for a person who doesnt exist

any suggestions please or cheap virtual addresses

10 phone lines does not make one a private seller.
10 phone lines makes someone a seller using mulitiple accounts for private selling.
That becomes doing business.
Work out exactly what you want, and what you can do before thinking of costs.
Remove that £1900 limit. that at the very least removes some hassles & allows
you to have a viable (hopefully) working paypal.:pop2:

thered 03-24-2011 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 213253)
10 phone lines does not make one a private seller.
10 phone lines makes someone a seller using mulitiple accounts for private selling.
That becomes doing business.
Work out exactly what you want, and what you can do before thinking of costs.
Remove that £1900 limit. that at the very least removes some hassles & allows
you to have a viable (hopefully) working paypal.:pop2:

the ten figure was put by somebody else ideally i would like about 3 or 4 and not sell to many on any 2-3 a month on each would do

i am currently waiting on entropay its been 3 days now to verify still hasnt cleared on card yet

i am interested in cheap service for virtual address that will forward me parcels in the uk to my home if anyone knows of any

Imakemoney 03-24-2011 11:48 AM

Just be patient with entropay it will appear on your statement soon I should think.

Let me know how you go on with that.

GreenBean 03-24-2011 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thered (Post 213399)
the ten figure was put by somebody else ideally i would like about 3 or 4 and not sell to many on any 2-3 a month on each would do

i am currently waiting on entropay its been 3 days now to verify still hasnt cleared on card yet

i am interested in cheap service for virtual address that will forward me parcels in the uk to my home if anyone knows of any

Now we are cooking!:pop2:

Nice choice to be aware now of spreading selling over a few accounts and keep below ebay's unfair limits. It actually could be easier than you are thinking to do.

Bellachica 03-27-2011 06:08 PM

Help i have PM some poeple but it seems no one reply to me, this is my dilemma

i currently have a paypal account (stealth) verified through my bank account, but it also gives me the option to get it verified through my card number( that is the long card number across the card ) the only problem is this, my card address is registered to my old billing address i had on a closed payapl account and therefore i can't use the address i have on my stealth paypal because it does not match with the one i have given to bank. Is there anyway i can get around this.

BTW this new bank account and never used on ebay or paypal.

so how do i get over this hurdle... some PM me ...i dont want waste this account cause

thanks in advance

Alps_a somewhatlegend 03-27-2011 09:33 PM

^ I sent a pm - It says to use entropay

thered 03-28-2011 01:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imakemoney (Post 213422)
Just be patient with entropay it will appear on your statement soon I should think.

Let me know how you go on with that.

well just to let you know i have nothing yet on my statement and it was set up on the 21st i also made another a few days after

i also added just to make them look better a couple of puchases on my entropay card through paypal which are on entropay statement the paypal ££££ however is still not

raptor3 03-29-2011 07:26 AM

Can you get verified paypal with Entropay i have 2 accounts with entropay one i got the 4 digit code sent to it and when i put it in paypal it still was not verified it then wanted the bank details.?
Maybe it is because my address in paypal not matched with my address in entropay?

Imakemoney 03-29-2011 08:25 AM

no it wont be because the address didnt match entropay because entropay dont share your details with paypal due to data protection laws.

rsot 03-29-2011 09:09 AM

You made sure your Entropay had the correct amount minimum $2.00?

thered 03-30-2011 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imakemoney (Post 214616)
no it wont be because the address didnt match entropay because entropay dont share your details with paypal due to data protection laws.

i have tried entropay on 2 paypal accounts they take a £1 of the card instantly but the payment doesnt end up on the statement it comes back

when i log into paypal and click verify card it takes me to add bank account

can i verify with bank account in the same way or will it mess my account up i would rather hold my bank back at this point until after i get a few sales

what i dont understand though is i have made payments through the card to ebay through paypal surely that should verify address and card?

Thank you

Daz 03-30-2011 05:07 AM

Hi, i have used entropay to verify 2 stealth accounts so far, and they are both looking okay - one i have verified a bank account on, using a natwest savings account in a different name, which has verified okay and i seem to have no listing limits at the moment - i have 20 odd listings up and the account is less than a month old, have taken care just to list items like books and genuine cds until i get past the first month or so. The second account i am limited to selling 10 items a month, that was without adding a bank account, which i have just done and am awaiting verification amounts. so far, so good, can anyone spot any obvious holes in what i am doing here? I have made sure i set up diff user accoutns on windows for each, and change ip address every time i switch user accounts.

thered 03-30-2011 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daz (Post 214902)
Hi, i have used entropay to verify 2 stealth accounts so far, and they are both looking okay - one i have verified a bank account on, using a natwest savings account in a different name, which has verified okay and i seem to have no listing limits at the moment - i have 20 odd listings up and the account is less than a month old, have taken care just to list items like books and genuine cds until i get past the first month or so. The second account i am limited to selling 10 items a month, that was without adding a bank account, which i have just done and am awaiting verification amounts. so far, so good, can anyone spot any obvious holes in what i am doing here? I have made sure i set up diff user accoutns on windows for each, and change ip address every time i switch user accounts.

what you are doing sounds ok to me by the advice i have been given just take the accounts easy and if you start selling anything remotely vero do them 1 a time instead of loading your listings

my problem is my paypal is not verifying with entropay it takes it from the card initially then doesnt verify

GreenBean 03-30-2011 07:18 AM

@thered send entropay an email, support@entropay.com and ask what's happening after you consider what I've written below.

How much did you load onto the card in the 1st place? You should have added at least £3.00 and to be safe, £5.00 (I do £10.00) Is there any chance there was a time where there were not enough funds. That could give grief :pop2:

thered 04-01-2011 03:54 AM

i am wondering if i have changed address to quick there was enough money on cards but after a couple of days i changed entropay address to make a new paypal account do you think this may have affected it i have read some posters who say you dont need to change address on entropay

i did however but maybe i did it too soon what do you think

Alps_a somewhatlegend 04-01-2011 09:14 AM

I think thats the problem. On entropay, I use my real details and it is all good in the hood.

I think you can get into trouble changing names and addresses with entropay.

If you want to make a new pp, just make a new card in entropay and use that. Make sure entropay is your name though - it is totally fine.

I hope you have not messed up your entro account as they are handy.

thered 04-02-2011 01:15 AM

Hi i got the entropay account in my name as i think you have to do i was also asked for ID too which i gave

when i opened paypal i nade a new card and changed the name and address before i made it

are you saying thats not correct because i assumed that i was doing that bit correctly

the thing i was unsure about was i changed address before paypal money came out to make another paypal after around 3 days

Alps_a somewhatlegend 04-02-2011 03:13 AM

On your 2nd line..... where did you change address..? pp... entro?

When you open new pp and eb accounts you should be prepare beforehand and have all registration details known so there is no need to change anything ever... maybe phone number if you need to or delivery address if you ant to buy stuff.

Sorry to keep asking crap, but I am in UK and for me and you the system works the same...

You should have absolutley (spelling) no problem getting eb and pp accounts up, running, verified, limits lifted all within a week if not sooner.

I feel there is something small you are doing wrong.

Once you have it all worked out, its as easy as going for a wee (soz for offence).

My brain is jelly for the next few days so I cant explain the steps.

Trust me... its a simple formula..... get it sorted

thered 04-02-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alps_thecheekyone (Post 215716)
On your 2nd line..... where did you change address..? pp... entro?

When you open new pp and eb accounts you should be prepare beforehand and have all registration details known so there is no need to change anything ever... maybe phone number if you need to or delivery address if you ant to buy stuff.

Sorry to keep asking crap, but I am in UK and for me and you the system works the same...

You should have absolutley (spelling) no problem getting eb and pp accounts up, running, verified, limits lifted all within a week if not sooner.

I feel there is something small you are doing wrong.

Once you have it all worked out, its as easy as going for a wee (soz for offence).

My brain is jelly for the next few days so I cant explain the steps.

Trust me... its a simple formula..... get it sorted


thanks for the replies yes i feel it is something simple and btw i change the address at entropay when i opened a new paypal account

maybe i did it too quick which has created the problem i should have waited until i got one verified first

i have now opened another paypal and i have changed entropay address again i am going to wait until monday then try to verify the card and not change entropay address until it is verified

hopefully that will do the trick

ty

Imakemoney 04-02-2011 02:26 PM

Yes you definatly should have waited until you verified the account with a bank/savings account until you tried to lift the £1900 limit.

Good luck next time let us know how you get on.

Daz 04-05-2011 04:08 PM

Hi, from what i understand, there is no need to change any details with entr op ay as they dont share any of your information with p pal, that is the whole idea of theior virtual cards - pay someone without them gettig any of your personal information!

all you need to do when opening new ppal is open a new card with entro and load it with funds, then just put in the card number and the stealth name, p pal will not get any name back from entro.


Although entro have a minimum load of £10, with a 50p load fee, you can either use that £10 to buy a couple of items and get a bit of feedback, or you can send money from one entro card to another for 10p per transaction, so what i am doing when i open my 3rd entro card is send remaining balances on the other 2 over to the 3rd one and use that to verify again, and so on.


if anyone has had this tactic fail then please let me know, cant see a problem with it from what i have learned so far though!

Imakemoney 04-05-2011 05:07 PM

Thats right Daz thats a good way of doing thing.

On future posts can you spread your layout into small paragraphs so its easier for people to read.

Daz 04-05-2011 06:44 PM

yes, will do - i just start typing sometimes, intending it to be a short post then start babbling!

Will make sure i break it up in future!

Imakemoney 04-05-2011 07:21 PM

Top stuff nice one!

Goodluck with your stealth venture :bounce:


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