How high can your selling limit get to on a stealth account?

[stealth2104]

I was thinking about purchasing some "high limit" stealth accounts with 1000/15k capability, but this still isn't really enough for me. I'm looking to sell items which have lots of variations, so a single listing could use up 100 items from the 1000 limit on these accounts. I can't see how it would be feasible to operate 50 or so accounts to get to a moderate level of individual listings, so...... how realistic/ is it possible for the selling limits on these accounts to go above the 1000 cap? If it is, how long would it take as an estimate presuming the accounts are being run well?

[Play]

You can now sell up to 1200 items and up to £ 45200.00 a month.
Another account - You can now sell up to 750 items and up to £ 23570.00 a month...
Many more accounts roughly on this range. I don't exceed beyond this. If I need more, I move onto another account.

The limit IMO is the sky. However the more your hitting such high limits, the more your at risk of losing these accounts. Having played it safe, I never lose these accounts.

[Bunneh]

it is not a good idea to list this volume on a brand new account from day 1.

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by Play

You can now sell up to 1200 items and up to £ 45200.00 a month.
Another account - You can now sell up to 750 items and up to £ 23570.00 a month...
Many more accounts roughly on this range. I don't exceed beyond this. If I need more, I move onto another account.

The limit IMO is the sky. However the more your hitting such high limits, the more your at risk of losing these accounts. Having played it safe, I never lose these accounts.

Thanks for replying, so what you're saying is selling approximately 1000 items a month is the limit to avoid putting an account at risk? This is unfortunate to hear, since as I say the items I'm looking to sell have lots of customisability, with each customisable option taking a slot from my allowance, i'd need a really really high number of accounts to get even a moderate amount of listings.

Is there any other way?

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by Bunneh

it is not a good idea to list this volume on a brand new account from day 1.

Thanks, so if I purchase an account from the stealth marketplace for an account with say a 1000 item limit, I couldn't look to start maxing out close to the 1000 from the start? What would a safe number of sales be to get started with an account carrying that kind of limit?

[Play]

Originally Posted by stealth2104

Thanks for replying, so what you're saying is selling approximately 1000 items a month is the limit to avoid putting an account at risk? This is unfortunate to hear, since as I say the items I'm looking to sell have lots of customisability, with each customisable option taking a slot from my allowance, i'd need a really really high number of accounts to get even a moderate amount of listings.

Is there any other way?

I treat all of my accounts like gold dust. So they tend to stick around. That also means being extra careful with them. I limit about 1,000 items sold a month per account.

Of course you can go beyond that, and beyond that even more, but the more your selling on each account, the more risk your adding.

What are the value of each of these items?

[JamesNorth101]

There is no roof to the limit increases you can get on stealth accounts.

Hit the limits and the increases keep coming.

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by Play

I treat all of my accounts like gold dust. So they tend to stick around. That also means being extra careful with them. I limit about 1,000 items sold a month per account.

Of course you can go beyond that, and beyond that even more, but the more your selling on each account, the more risk your adding.

What are the value of each of these items?

The range is £5 to £12

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

There is no roof to the limit increases you can get on stealth accounts.

Hit the limits and the increases keep coming.

Hi James, thanks for replying to my post, coincidentely you're actually one of the sellers I was thinking of buying from . On the 1000 limit accounts you sell what kind of increases would I expect to get with the assumption I was running the account perfectly? and have you/do you know people who have managed to sell at limits above 1000 without having the accounts shut down eventually?

[wired]

Originally Posted by stealth2104

Hi James, thanks for replying to my post, coincidentely you're actually one of the sellers I was thinking of buying from . On the 1000 limit accounts you sell what kind of increases would I expect to get with the assumption I was running the account perfectly? and have you/do you know people who have managed to sell at limits above 1000 without having the accounts shut down eventually?

Its more about the VAT threshold.

You start selling high volume, with high price tags, your account will be subject to further acount manager scrutiny by PayPal if you hit VAT amounts.

You cant rush accounts, and there is no 'set' amount of increases, it depends on lots of factors inc returns, feedback, time to answer questions, type of items.

The selling limits are not normally an issue, you can buy them big, but you cant sell that big for many months.

[Play]

Originally Posted by stealth2104

Hi James, thanks for replying to my post, coincidentely you're actually one of the sellers I was thinking of buying from . On the 1000 limit accounts you sell what kind of increases would I expect to get with the assumption I was running the account perfectly? and have you/do you know people who have managed to sell at limits above 1000 without having the accounts shut down eventually?

If you keep hitting 1000 sales, it will increase, no doubt. So long as customers are kept happy.

With the value of your items, should be no concern, seems safe.

Just tread carefully. Spread the sales (even if its a challenge). Consider investing in a high performance computer + VMware + 24vc - so you can simultaneously manage multiple stealth accounts at once.
You should be able to run about 5 to 10 machines at the same time. So the 50 accounts you plan to run wont seem to difficult.

Have an order management system in place, so you dont have to login to each account too often.

Finally, make sure these aren't high risk items, or you put these account at jeopardy of going down, which defeats the hard work your going to put in.

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by wired

Its more about the VAT threshold.

You start selling high volume, with high price tags, your account will be subject to further acount manager scrutiny by PayPal if you hit VAT amounts.

I'm looking to sell high volume low cost, not going to register any of the accounts for VAT and going to make sure to stay below the threshold.

The selling limits are not normally an issue, you can buy them big, but you cant sell that big for many months.

So even if the account has a high limit, I shouldn't be looking to max out the limit as much as possible from the start?

Originally Posted by Play

If you keep hitting 1000 sales, it will increase, no doubt. So long as customers are kept happy.

With the value of your items, should be no concern, seems safe.

Just tread carefully. Spread the sales (even if its a challenge). Consider investing in a high performance computer + VMware + 24vc - so you can simultaneously manage multiple stealth accounts at once.
You should be able to run about 5 to 10 machines at the same time. So the 50 accounts you plan to run wont seem to difficult.

Have an order management system in place, so you dont have to login to each account too often.

Finally, make sure these aren't high risk items, or you put these account at jeopardy of going down, which defeats the hard work your going to put in.

Thank you so much, really helpful info. Good idea on running the accounts through VMware, I didn't think of that, would save me a lot of time(and stop me from going mad from hearing the windows Login sound )

[yankee]

1000 items a month is no big deal at all.

Stealth accounts is the same as non stealth accounts. Offer a good product and service and you will have no problems.

[Play]

Originally Posted by yankee

Stealth accounts is the same as non stealth accounts.

Strongly disagree with this statement. Whilst the difference may be subtle and unnoticeable to a general stealth user, it does exist. But offering a good product and service is definitely the way forward.

OP - Staying below VAT threshold is a good idea for each account. But make sure you pay any VAT due when combining all accounts/figures, or your just opening yourself a can of worms.

Also dont worry too much about the quantity your selling. Focus more on the figure being sold. Yankee is a big time seller, he might be able to give you better advice than me on this topic.

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by Play

OP - Staying below VAT threshold is a good idea for each account. But make sure you pay any VAT due when combining all accounts/figures, or your just opening yourself a can of worms.

I thought running the accounts as separate businesses would mean I wouldn't have to pay VAT even if my overall combined turnover from all accounts eventually reached > 80k overall! So is that not possible then? Doesn't E-Bay need to know your VAT number when you become VAT registered and wouldn't that risk linking the accounts?

[JamesNorth101]

eBay doesnt need to know your VAT number no

HMRC do not like people running different businesses to try to avoid VAT. They are well aware of the trick

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

eBay doesnt need to know your VAT number no

That's good at least

HMRC do not like people running different businesses to try to avoid VAT. They are well aware of the trick

Bah, thought it was too easy So is there no way around it, VAT is a must with >80k turnover?

[JamesNorth101]

Best to talk to an accountant RE how to minimise VAT rates

[stealth2104]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Best to talk to an accountant RE how to minimise VAT rates

I might do, or just accept the full hit on my profit margin. Thanks.

[yankee]

Originally Posted by Play

Strongly disagree with this statement. Whilst the difference may be subtle and unnoticeable to a general stealth user, it does exist. But offering a good product and service is definitely the way forward.

OP - Staying below VAT threshold is a good idea for each account. But make sure you pay any VAT due when combining all accounts/figures, or your just opening yourself a can of worms.

Also dont worry too much about the quantity your selling. Focus more on the figure being sold. Yankee is a big time seller, he might be able to give you better advice than me on this topic.

I retract seeing as this is a UK post but in the USA, an EIN account is the same as any other account if not better. Sorry for not being specific and inaccurate.

[wired]

Originally Posted by yankee

I retract seeing as this is a UK post but in the USA, an EIN account is the same as any other account if not better. Sorry for not being specific and inaccurate.

Thats why its in the Uk section!

You have your own :P