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How does ebay link your accounts?
 

ive recently had an account suspended. I opened an account today new ip, phone number, name, address, email address.. i listed a book but then a few hours later i got the suspension email. How is it possible?

i have however used the same paypal for the billing agreement for the previous suspended account and the new one.

is that enough to block my account? just need to know before i try making another one?

Any other things i may have missed on how they track would be appreciated.

thanks

well you answered your questions yourself.
you made everything new but couldnt be bothered to make a new paypal?

@OP, you should really get the Stealth Book.

Ok ill give it a try with a new one and new win7 user account. i thought it was a new one. it wasnt until the suspension that i checked and found id used it for a previous one. Also the billing agreement is such a small thing! i didnt even link it properly to either account.

maybe you didn´t know but ebay actually owns paypal, so all the information paypal has, ebay will have too.

you really should buy the stealth guide

Everything needs to be new.

Don't use any old information or you are likely to get linked........:peace:

Threads like this waste the time of the people that are on this forum for the right reasons. I can tell you first hand that all of Aspkin's Ebooks are very reasonably priced especially Ebay Stealth. If you can't be bothered to purchase it, don't expect the people of this forum to spell it out in a thread for you.

Number one reason for suspension is being linked.

Using that old info linked you and killed the new account. :rip:

Do me a small favour?

B4 you list on your next account, post what you have done here.

That way we'll tweak the plan. Will save dramas later.

:juggle:

Thanks GreenB i really appreciate your help. This is what i plan on doing today.

new mobile number, new bank account for the paypal, new email address for both ebay and paypal account, new name and address/dob, new win7 user account.

I think thats it...?

thanks

Oh and new ip address.

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i have however used the same paypal for the billing agreement for the previous suspended account and the new one.

is that enough to block my account? just need to know before i try making another one?

Yes it is enough - cant use ANYTHING old

I have just had my Paypal account suspended and am looking at options. Is it possible to get a Paypal account up and running without moving addresses? I do not have another address that I can use.

The address is marked 'bad' by p/p

Any attempt to reuse it will bring scrutiny almost immediately.

Very few have available addresses that can be used right away, time to start thinking outside the box.

BIG word of caution here !! DO NOT BE TEMPTED TO USE FRIENDS OR FAMILY ADDRESSES.

Does p/p then put a "bad" marker on my credit file? If so, that could be defamatory.

They also banned one of my sisters accounts at the same address. Strangely, they left her other one running.

If I cannot use the same address is there anyway I can get an account up and running?

No, they do not mark your credit file.

She has been lucky so far but they will get her other account eventually.

Buy the stealth guide and read the forum for answers on how you can get another account up and running.

It's how we all did it.

Good luck

Do they have any right to close my sisters account?

They banned me for having excessive reverals (a joke considering I am entitled to return items under DSR and seller returns policies). These arent even claims!!.

I cannot see how banning my sister is legal. Surely she has nothing to do with my accounts. Can they do that?

When you accepted the use of ebay/paypal by making your accounts, they took the right to do what they want.

They can, they will justify their actions. It is harsh to you. It is a fact of using ebay/paypal.

Start changing your mind set & move on from the shock of what power these companies have. They operate on risk. Somehow, you missed making their standards.

Now, choose to beat them by making stealth accounts .... that's a fun choice

:pop2:

I hear what you are saying but isn't there a way of challenging those terms? In the EU there's legislation about unfair contract terms. Wouldn't that be a possible way of challenging those terms?

e/b and p/p are massive international companies who have dedicated legal departments who advise them on their T&C's which are fully compliant and legal for every country the operate in.

Of course you could try to challenge their T&C's in court if you have a few spare millions lying around that you would be prepared to spend on legal costs. :thumb:

Just got the limitation on my account removed. Think I will still report them for their unfair contract terms and breach of EU competition law.

I really don't think that will change anything, but wouldn't hurt to try.

Good luck with that.

BTW. I assume you already have sound legal advice that their contract does in fact breach any EU laws?

probably, but the problem with that is you would need a few million quid and very big set of :juggle:

I went to an Office of Fair Trading talk a while back and know you can report unfair practices via their website.

Whether my report changes things is not really the issue, if I report their practices and others do the same, the OFT will act (they are duty to bound) if they persistently keep getting reports.

Just like Saville, the more reports they get the more likely something will come of it in the end.

In my case, they alleged that I had a high percentage of disputes (all genuine for misreprentation or refunds in line with my statutory rights). By limiting consumer rights they are obtaining an unfair advantage over other competitors and under EU competition law such practices are illegal.

How does limiting your account for apparently exercising your statutory right to return an item to a supplier give them an unfair advantage over their competitors?

EU Anti Competition law has nothing to do with Distance Selling Regulations, two totally different things.

I'm quite sure e/b and p/p have been reported many times to the OFT and TSO and are still operating as they have always done because they are compliant with the law as it stands.

Because they are operating a policy that seeks to prevent consumers from exercises their rights. By seeking to limit consumer rights, the traders on ebay gain a competitive advantage over other trades in the market. This affects competition.

Interestingly, this is the same reason why OFT get involved in consumer issues, it is because it has an effect on competition law.

Just because they are still trading does not mean that they are compliant with the law. Most government agencies do not seek to close businesses but to change the way they operate. They do this by agreement and only take legal action in a small number of cases because the trader has refused to change their ways.

You will not know whether e/b or p/p (or any other business) have changed their practices due to the OFT (which I am sure has occurred). It is not something that is put into the media.

Pretty sure their policies regarding consumers rights are quite clearly stated and do not limit a buyers statutory rights in any way nor give additional protection or advantage to traders on their site.

I don't know of any e/b trader who would agree with that statement, in fact I would guess that most would state the opposite as e/b & p/p buyer protection policies in addition to a buyers statutory rights are very much weighted in their favour.

Still I'm sure the OFT advised you correctly

Brrrrup
Can't be bothered to be long winded about this one.

Get a grip, wake up, smell coffee, create stealth (sooner the better) and move on

Peice
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