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Lawyer1993 09-28-2013 06:11 PM

Starting in stealth again
 
My current account is banned so I need to get back on ebay,I have alot of stock left to sell,and need clarification in 2 sectors.


1.Can you verify a paypal to the point where it goes beyond the yearly limit of 1900pounds?to make it practically unlimited and still go for a stealth account?


2.I use virgin media internet and I have the superhub thing,since it is bradband,I do not know how to change my ip for the accounts I want to build.


I was selling alot and will usually look to sell around 50-100 items a day,I need to get back on my feet.

I considered a couple of options:opening new bank accounts and also opening a company and using the company's name to register as a business on ebay as a legit account and then more stealth accounts.

But my main concern is can stealth accounts sell alot of items a day without attracting attention of ebay and tax people?
I need an account capable to handle big sales,please advise on how should I plan this properly,thanks!

Best regards,

GreenBean 09-28-2013 06:19 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
You earn money you need to pay tax. No way around that.

New account will not take 50-100 items a day and stay under the radar.

You will need to build up to selling that much after you earn ebay/paypal trust.

When you start again everything must be new. New bank account, name, address. Even the items you sell must look different from what you sold on a banned account.
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Lawyer1993 09-28-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
I was reffering if stealth accounts also can pay tax?can become powersellers or TRS,and can handle bigger ammounts of item sales a day?

I was thinking for the begining I should open 4-5 stealth accounts,all with different banks and verified true VCC.

but one thing kep popping in my mind,say I sell eventually on each of them items worth 1900 pounds the limit allowed one each paypal after they ask for further info like national id and stuff like that,then what?

practically my accounts become void since my yearly paypal limit has been reached and since cheanging paypal on a ebay account is very suspicious I would rather not?please enlighten

JamesNorth101 09-29-2013 04:46 AM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ip-addr...super-hub.html - Should solve issue with the Super Hub

If they ask for ID, then this must be provided.

If you want to have higher limits, and have a limits lifted PP you could look at buying an aged account but first I would recommend that you learn how to stealth correctly.

To be able to sell in the volume you want, you would be best off creating 5 or 6 stealths and age them all at once. Within 5 or 6 months you would be able to post 10 items per day per account without too much issue (so long as they are not VERO and not very expensive)

You must pay tax on your incomes. Talk to an accountant about the details of this.

rsot 09-29-2013 07:31 AM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
To sell 50-100 items a day with new accounts...you really should be revolving between 7-12 accounts and slowly building.

Yes it takes a lot of work but it takes persistence :( read posts by Sandy D on how she rotate through 15-20 a week if not more.

IP issue can be read on the other post.

Lawyer1993 09-29-2013 07:54 AM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
I am starting to get the thing with stealth,the only issue is new paypal=new bank account since you said 7-12 new accounts that means 7-12 bank accounts,I do not know if there are that many banks in uk,or is there any way arround,ive read yesterday 100+posts for hours and hours,just some info I picked up,also avoid Lloyds right?

rsot 09-29-2013 08:00 AM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
I have read to avoid Lloyd's, yes. There are quite a few banks:

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/uk-ebay...-uk-banks.html

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/uk-payp...rk-paypal.html <--- very nice one

JamesNorth101 09-29-2013 09:29 AM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
With the recent break up of Lloyds and TSB, I would for now avoid both of these banks.

It may be in months to come that they get tested and found to work post break up. Fingered crossed for this.

HSBC, Barclay's, Natwest, Coop, RBS are a few that work very well.

Avoid opening too many banks accounts to fast.

Lawyer1993 09-29-2013 01:19 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
thanks for thats james rsot,but Ive read that people here have like 100+ accounts.

since you said 1bank per paypal,they must opened more bank accounts with the same bank.

thats the only way I see it because creating a bank account with stealth info is 100% to get you into legal trouble,right?

I feel like I am getting closer to stealth but yet it is so far away,need to put more questions,and read more

JamesNorth101 09-29-2013 02:44 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
You have to use your real details when opening a bank account.

I have accounts with easily over 10 banks now, and I have 3 or 4 or even 5 bank accounts with each of these banks.

There are also other methods of 'withdrawal' (buying things on eBay, websites that accept PP ect)

It must be said though that a PP with a bank account attached is much securer in PP eyes.

GreenBean 09-29-2013 06:29 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lawyer1993 (Post 490305)
thanks for thats james rsot,but Ive read that people here have like 100+ accounts.

since you said 1bank per paypal,they must opened more bank accounts with the same bank.

thats the only way I see it because creating a bank account with stealth info is 100% to get you into legal trouble,right?

I feel like I am getting closer to stealth but yet it is so far away,need to put more questions,and read more

Users who have 100 accounts may not have attached bank accounts yet. If they are USA based, they have different bank options than the UK.

You would never use the same bank for too many accounts. ( eggs in one basket etc).

Keep on doing your research. As you find out more, you will see what to do to use stealth.

This is good for your future stealth work, finding out now.

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rsot 09-29-2013 09:30 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
Agree - need to explore other options than just expecting 100 bank accounts...as you read more posts, things get clearer...even though recommendation stands to verify the PP

Lawyer1993 10-01-2013 07:13 PM

Re: Starting in stealth again
 
thank you very much,appreacitate the information yes I read alot,before you go to war make a your tactical plan


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