| |  | | | Bigblackdog | 04-18-2020 09:47 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1043471)
So all is well in the world of stealth for many of us.
Smooth sailing, business as usual.
What do we do next year when eBay managed payments is implemented ? Many of us have created ebay stealth accounts with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and address or atleast a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address to the one we were initially suspended with.
I've been reading and it appears in the US adyen wants to ensure the ebay name matches the name on the bank account. What about the address ?
What happens if we change the ebay account name to our real name but leave the stealth address when we opt in for managed payments. Will it be OK ?
I know it's all speculation at this point but I feel quite worried knowing I will be working hard on my stealth accounts to only end up losing it next year. | If it follows my experience when Etsy made all their sellers change you SHOULD be fine
I changed the banking details after a couple of weeks as a payment got returned - I used my own name and added a new bank account
I had to wait 5 days for payments to resume but other than that I had no problems with daily payouts
Unfortunately I lost the account due to their ODR policy
I'm not convinced that Adyen share information with Etsy and it may well be they will not share with Ebay
If the account is well established and has no problems I question as to why they would demand ID
But of course I could be wrong |
| james_112233 | 04-18-2020 11:37 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigblackdog
(Post 1086456)
If it follows my experience when Etsy made all their sellers change you SHOULD be fine
I changed the banking details after a couple of weeks as a payment got returned - I used my own name and added a new bank account
I had to wait 5 days for payments to resume but other than that I had no problems with daily payouts
Unfortunately I lost the account due to their ODR policy
I'm not convinced that Adyen share information with Etsy and it may well be they will not share with Ebay If the account is well established and has no problems I question as to why they would demand ID
But of course I could be wrong | This is what i'm hoping for. Ebay have never asked me for ID's in over a decade. It has always been Paypal making me go through hoops to prove myself to them.
If that's the case with Adyen then all should be well. |
| dark_knight | 04-26-2020 02:53 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? this totally **** why then not leave PayPal as an option for taking payment and seller have choice to choose what he uses
note are this will be ended of stealth for who outside UK or USA and not have bank account to get money on? |
| haiauphisu15 | 04-29-2020 09:16 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Email from ebay Aus this morning...
Does anyone know anything about registration process? What will be asked to provide?
"Managed payments supports an enhanced buying and selling experience on eBay, providing sellers one place to sell and get paid, and buyers more ways to pay. eBay will manage payments for most sellers in 2020, and your account will be activated for managed payments at the end of July. To ensure you are ready for the change and that there are no interruptions to your business, you will need to register by 15th July 2020.
You can register in a few simple steps including verifying your business information and providing a bank account. This information will allow us to send your payouts and comply with Anti-Money Laundering (AML) and Know-Your-Customer (KYC) obligations which helps keep eBay a trusted marketplace. You will be able to track your registration progress on the Payments tab in Seller Hub.
The eBay features and tools you currently use are fully supported in the managed payments experience. Managed payments is the new way business is done on eBay – by registering now you will ensure that your business does not experience any disruptions after it is activated in late July 2020. Nothing will change on your account or how you manage your business until your account is activated, starting from late July. We will ensure you have access to all the detailed information you need to be prepared and you will be notified of your activation date well in advance. In order to learn more and start the registration process, please click here.
If you complete registration for managed payments before 31st May we’ll waive your insertion fees1 enabling you to list all of your inventory on eBay without being charged to list." |
| J1mmy | 04-30-2020 08:06 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? From an email I received today -
You can register in a few simple steps, including verifying your business information and providing a bank account. |
| vigilantex69 | 04-30-2020 03:19 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? I just got that same email about an hour ago. I’m not a business seller either that’s what’s weird? I don’t have a business to register.. |
| SGT18 | 04-30-2020 05:17 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? I have seen people say that they are operating multiple accounts with managed payments here. So obviously there is a way. |
| james_112233 | 04-30-2020 05:58 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? "verifying your business information" ... Well I can verify one of my accounts. But what about the rest of them ?
Looks like running stealths may be over if they are verifying information.
I think we will all be able to own a single account or two. But any more than that may be a problem. |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 07:11 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Seems to me like if there will be no more stealth unless you are doing identity fraud. |
Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by vmdetection
(Post 1090047)
Seems to me like if there will be no more stealth unless you are doing identity fraud. | Not identity fraud if the stealth name is not a true one. |
| vmdetection | 04-30-2020 09:35 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1090051)
Not identity fraud if the stealth name is not a true one. | It is identity fraud if the only way to stealth managed payments is if you use a real stolen i.d and documents alongside stealth bank/vba that can be opened online using stolen identity. Hopefully it doesn't come to this. |
| james_112233 | 05-01-2020 12:22 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1090051)
Not identity fraud if the stealth name is not a true one. | I don't know why everyone uses a different name ... all my stealth accounts are using my REAL name just random addresses. Everyone withdrawing to phantom names risk the actual bank seizing their funds one day, not a question of will they, it's when ... I would never take that risk. |
| chimera | 05-02-2020 03:33 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1090096)
I don't know why everyone uses a different name ... all my stealth accounts are using my REAL name just random addresses. Everyone withdrawing to phantom names risk the actual bank seizing their funds one day, not a question of will they, it's when ... I would never take that risk. | I didnt think of this. So i guess if all the other details, DOB, address etc are different then there is no issue with linking.
Dunno how great that would be in my instance though as all my stealths are male....i wonder how well ebay would cope with name and gender change! |
| james_112233 | 05-02-2020 03:48 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Stealth isn't like how it used to be many years ago. Ebay are a big corporate company they have IT departments making changes to how they operate all the time, implementing new technology / methods etc.
I have been stealthing with my real name / using old ebays with new paypals, old paypal with new ebays for well over a year now. Spoken to customer services multiple times. THERE IS NO LINK. And if there is they don't care ! they care about what you sell and how well you integrate in to their trusted community. Break that trust and you can say bye to your privileges.
If you don't follow policies, sell vero, digital goods or anything that doesn't suit their platform ONLY THEN will you get banned again. And there has to be more than 1 link. And they definitely look at the reason your initial account was suspended as well. |
| james_112233 | 05-02-2020 03:52 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? The only TRUE advantage to stealth is the fact you can run dozens of accounts thus enabling yourself to get a larger share of ebays algorithm in YOUR favor. So if you sell the same items over multiple accounts you will get more sales than if you just sold on a single account. On top of the fact you can sleep at night knowing if one account goes down for whatever reason you can still continue business as normal.
I think this will all change with managed payments no doubt as we will only be able to have 1 business 1 personal. |
| Bigblackdog | 05-02-2020 03:53 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1090096)
I don't know why everyone uses a different name ... all my stealth accounts are using my REAL name just random addresses. Everyone withdrawing to phantom names risk the actual bank seizing their funds one day, not a question of will they, it's when ... I would never take that risk. | I had never thought of that - thanks..:thumb: |
| Ametrade | 05-02-2020 04:22 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by james_112233
(Post 1090096)
I don't know why everyone uses a different name ... all my stealth accounts are using my REAL name just random addresses. Everyone withdrawing to phantom names risk the actual bank seizing their funds one day, not a question of will they, it's when ... I would never take that risk. | I'm pretty curious about what you just said, and i'm interested. In my case, my account has been banned last summer, so, if i'm following your path here, you say that making a new stealth account with the same name shouldn't be a problem ? New phone number, new bank, another adress ( a fully random one, yes but how about IP localisation ? if that's like 500 miles away from your localisation ? ) ?
Now, if they ask for ID, well, i'll have to send my ID card, wouldn't it link me to my banned account ?
Thanks buddy, that's helpful. |
| brassmonkey | 05-02-2020 04:31 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by Ametrade
(Post 1090401)
I'm pretty curious about what you just said, and i'm interested. In my case, my account has been banned last summer, so, if i'm following your path here, you say that making a new stealth account with the same name shouldn't be a problem ? New phone number, new bank, another adress ( a fully random one, yes but how about IP localisation ? if that's like 500 miles away from your localisation ? ) ?
Now, if they ask for ID, well, i'll have to send my ID card, wouldn't it link me to my banned account ?
Thanks buddy, that's helpful. | My question was the same - if you are using the same name for all accounts what are you doing about ID?
Just getting creative with your ID and leaving the real name but changing the address? |
| Ametrade | 05-02-2020 04:33 AM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by brassmonkey
(Post 1090407)
My question was the same - if you are using the same name for all accounts what are you doing about ID?
Just getting creative with your ID and leaving the real name but changing the address? | I guess that might be a solution, and since you're using your real identity but being creative a little bit on it, i guess it's not really a fraud... is it ? |
| stealthnorris | 05-02-2020 04:23 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Quote:
Originally Posted by vigilantex69
(Post 1089993)
I just got that same email about an hour ago. I’m not a business seller either that’s what’s weird? I don’t have a business to register.. | Are you a high volume seller?
Or are small volume sellers being hit with this as well? |
| james_112233 | 05-02-2020 05:14 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? Come on guys use your brain ...
Since when does your passport have your home address on it ?
The stealth game really isn't for you if you can't do the basics because you will trip up when it really counts during a limitation later down the line etc. |
| Themav | 05-02-2020 05:21 PM | Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ? so @James_112233 you are using the same date of birth for your accounts not just name? | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 PM. | |
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