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Freakzilla 07-02-2020 03:43 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Out of interest what was your previous username here? You're tone is very familiar.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103633)
Far too much one line anger and abuse towards others from that member. Shows a weakness of character to me so not someone I would trust myself, but others may, and as they say, 'every little helps' though, so the more posters who don't belong to the 'executive' club commeting on similar is more valuable to me. Hence my comments.


JamesNorth101 07-02-2020 03:45 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103633)
Far too much one line anger and abuse towards others from that member. Shows a weakness of character to me so not someone I would trust myself, but others may, and as they say, 'every little helps' though, so the more posters who don't belong to the 'executive' club commeting on similar is more valuable to me. Hence my comments.

Seriously... :coffee:

JamesNorth101 07-02-2020 04:03 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
I was more pointing to the abuse part of your message given how you have conducted yourself. I guess that was lost on you. Meh.

Trust or dont trust who you wish. Only thing I have ever asked from you is to stop saying things are a certainty and scaring members when they are not.

Freakzilla 07-02-2020 04:07 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Out of interest how do I portray myself?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103651)
Indeed.

I definitely can't see why you have the issue of allowing me the freedom to choose who I feel I can trust, and who I can't, when potentially, my business is at stake.

I definitely won't trust someone who portrays themselves the way that guy does, but in the same way, someone may not trust me for how they perceive me. Thats just life. You gotta be cool with allsorts otherwise it gets a bit hectic and you can start shouting at people abusively lol.


StealthHarry 07-02-2020 04:10 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103653)
Out of interest how do I portray myself?

As some drag queen / Edward scissor hand Freddy Kruger Freakzilla kinda character

And I vouch for what James has said although we’ve had our differences there is no “agenda” being pushed here, he did pm me last week with the same info

Good luck to everyone, I genuinely hope things work out good (or even better) with this new system coming

StealthHarry 07-02-2020 04:24 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1103653)
Out of interest how do I portray myself?

https://youtu.be/Vao5rn7OHPo


This is tinsoldier, I was being nice when I said Carlton leach

This is how tinsoldier is on Aspkin forums

He don’t spare no one :D

Freakzilla 07-02-2020 04:25 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1103655)
As some drag queen / Edward scissor hand Freddy Kruger Freakzilla kinda character

And I vouch for what James has said although we’ve had our differences there is no “agenda” being pushed here, he did pm me last week with the same info

Good luck to everyone, I genuinely hope things work out good (or even better) with this new system coming


Ebayorbust 07-03-2020 12:44 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pathos (Post 1103619)
I haven't heard any FULLY Stealth accounts being accepted, only real detail variation ones.

I may have missed it in the threads thought, so would like to hear some folk chime in.

Numerous client accounts verified in the last few days but then I have a "vested interest" so probably best to discount what I'm saying. :d

james_112233 07-03-2020 02:50 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1103722)
Numerous client accounts verified in the last few days but then I have a "vested interest" so probably best to discount what I'm saying. :d

Can the clients reading this message PLEASE confirm this and put all of our minds at ease.

I can't believe they can't spend 2 seconds to just say "yep I got through" on one of these threads.

JamesNorth101 07-03-2020 02:55 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
The vast bulk of clients that we sell to are not active forum posters.

Ebayorbust 07-03-2020 03:12 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1103741)
Can the clients reading this message PLEASE confirm this and put all of our minds at ease.

I can't believe they can't spend 2 seconds to just say "yep I got through" on one of these threads.

Like some of you say, I'm an account seller and can't be trusted. ;) I'm not going out my way to ask folk to post on here to placate you and Pathos.

Freakzilla is one of my clients but you've already ruled him out as untrustworthy.

I find this whole situation quite laughable. A week or so ago, account sellers and execs were being accused of "being too quiet" and "not contributing". I also read one comment that none of us could possibly sell on ebay, instead choosing to "make a few quid" selling accounts instead.

Whilst some of you chose to speculate a load of bollox I, along with many of my colleagues chose to wait and actually see what happened. Documentation started to get reviewed around a week ago now which is why folk are now posting about it. It's a shame that when we did, we got hit with this level of mistrust. And you wonder why many experienced members don't bother their arse to help?????

I'm certainly not on here touting for anyone's business. I've got months of work lined up at the moment working with mostly existing clients.

I'm sure you guys with the trust issues will manage to find a solution eventually.

madison66s 07-03-2020 04:09 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
I bought many accounts from Ebayorbust, and I have successfully had 1 account verified for eBay managed payments. Going for another account to be verified this weekend. Took eBay about 5 days to verify my stealth account. All eBay ask for is a passport and bank statement with the account number and sort code clear on the statement.

Ebayorbust 07-03-2020 04:15 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madison66s (Post 1103746)
I bought many accounts from Ebayorbust, and I have successfully had 1 account verified for eBay managed payments. Going for another account to be verified this weekend. Took eBay about 5 days to verify my stealth account. All eBay ask for is a passport and bank statement with the account number and sort code clear on the statement.

Appreciate you taking the time to respond. :)

Quote:

Can the clients reading this message PLEASE confirm this and put all of our minds at ease.
There's one for you. Take him at his word or don't, I couldn't really care less. :lol:

james_112233 07-03-2020 05:27 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1103743)
Like some of you say, I'm an account seller and can't be trusted. ;) I'm not going out my way to ask folk to post on here to placate you and Pathos.

Freakzilla is one of my clients but you've already ruled him out as untrustworthy.

I find this whole situation quite laughable. A week or so ago, account sellers and execs were being accused of "being too quiet" and "not contributing". I also read one comment that none of us could possibly sell on ebay, instead choosing to "make a few quid" selling accounts instead.

Whilst some of you chose to speculate a load of bollox I, along with many of my colleagues chose to wait and actually see what happened. Documentation started to get reviewed around a week ago now which is why folk are now posting about it. It's a shame that when we did, we got hit with this level of mistrust. And you wonder why many experienced members don't bother their arse to help?????

I'm certainly not on here touting for anyone's business. I've got months of work lined up at the moment working with mostly existing clients.

I'm sure you guys with the trust issues will manage to find a solution eventually.

Ebayorbust ... you've got an attitude problem buddy. Chill. Can't be good for the blood pressure.

Even when i've bought from you in the past you just lashed out with your response. Where a simple "no I can't do that" would have sufficed. Don't know whether other customers pissed you off that day but you were rude.

In this thread you're saying i've ruled out Freakzilla ... where did I say I didn't believe him ?

And i'm glad someone else has now finally taken the time to respond it adds a lot of weight to everything.

StealthHarry 07-03-2020 05:29 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Great news, congratulations on being accepted

Good luck to all making this hurdle

james_112233 07-03-2020 05:31 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madison66s (Post 1103746)
I bought many accounts from Ebayorbust, and I have successfully had 1 account verified for eBay managed payments. Going for another account to be verified this weekend. Took eBay about 5 days to verify my stealth account. All eBay ask for is a passport and bank statement with the account number and sort code clear on the statement.

So just to clarify is the name stealth on the account ? or did you use a real name that matches your bank account but made up address ?

StealthHarry 07-03-2020 05:32 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
I’m sure he’s referring to complete stealth details

I don’t wanna talk about the restricted stuff openly but when submitting docs just use your brains, same with PayPal the way we do

james_112233 07-03-2020 05:35 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StealthHarry (Post 1103759)
I’m sure he’s referring to complete stealth details

I don’t wanna talk about the restricted stuff openly but when submitting docs just use your brains, same with PayPal the way we do

I understand but what about the banking hurdle later down the line if they need to dip in to the bank account for refunds.

It's good that we can get through with proper stealth details but we still need to wait and see now whether we can choose credit card or not. On Etsy we can choose credit card for refunds which is what I'm hoping will be the case with ebay.

Ebayorbust 07-03-2020 05:41 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1103755)
Ebayorbust ... you've got an attitude problem buddy. Chill. Can't be good for the blood pressure.

Even when i've bought from you in the past you just lashed out with your response. Where a simple "no I can't do that" would have sufficed. Don't know whether other customers pissed you off that day but you were rude.

In this thread you're saying i've ruled out Freakzilla ... where did I say I didn't believe him ?

And i'm glad someone else has now finally taken the time to respond it adds a lot of weight to everything.

Sorry, that wasn't directed at you.

It was you that didn't believe what I was saying. Anyway don't worry, I'll take my bad attitude off this thread and leave you guys to it. :peace:

StealthHarry 07-04-2020 12:32 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1103760)
I understand but what about the banking hurdle later down the line if they need to dip in to the bank account for refunds.

It's good that we can get through with proper stealth details but we still need to wait and see now whether we can choose credit card or not. On Etsy we can choose credit card for refunds which is what I'm hoping will be the case with ebay.

In my opinion (opinion not fact), It wouldn’t make sense for them to constantly dip in to the bank for minuscule amounts as I’m sure they’re is either a fee - and if there is no fee the banks will definitely not like it for personal accounts

I don’t see that as much of a hurdle unless, UNLESS they strictly want business bank accounts and not personal or savers

That’s when there’s really going to be a problem - if Ayden goes along the same route as PayPal we’ll be fine (bit of a nuance some accounts will get burned but we’ll be fine overall) if they go the amazon route might still be a way but much harder

Christianm 07-05-2020 03:04 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1103741)
Can the clients reading this message PLEASE confirm this and put all of our minds at ease.

I can't believe they can't spend 2 seconds to just say "yep I got through" on one of these threads.

I have had various "paperwork" and accs from EBOB they have been accepted with MP.

Bumbles 07-06-2020 09:47 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
I just bit the bullet and changed all my stealth account details to all my proper details, as I've never had an issue with eBay it was always Paypal, and all they asked me was for a scan of my DL (or Passport but I currently don't have one) & to link my nominated bank account for payout (in my real details) to eBay by logging into it via eBay.

It's all looking good so far and I seem to be accepted. I know my account is no longer stealth but at least I get to keep the account (hopefully), but accepting Paypal Payments will be my next hurdle I think, as PayPal will surely limit the one I currently have attached to eBay, as it's still in stealth mode lol :shocked:

We shall see what happens :pry:

Kind regards,

Bumbles.

ross88 07-06-2020 10:18 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Thanks for the info Bumbles. Please keep us updated :)

Bumbles 07-06-2020 10:55 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ross88 (Post 1104320)
Thanks for the info Bumbles. Please keep us updated :)

Will do mate :)

I recently created a PayPal account with my real details just slightly edited, like adding my middle names and using "Jonny" instead of "Jonathan" for example.

I've paid for loads of things, and they haven't limited or locked it, so I'm hoping to attach that account to my MP account if all goes to plan and if a PayPal account is still needed at all, considering eBay is the payment processor from then on in? :noidea:

This info isn't much help to people looking or needing to go full stealth, but if your problem was only ever with Paypal and not eBay, this might be an option.

Anyway, I will update as I go along :)

Regards,

Bumbles.

RedPill 07-06-2020 01:31 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
I have business ebay accounts that I have not used yet, no message about MP.

Will these be forced to use MP?

JamesNorth101 07-06-2020 01:36 PM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Eventually yes everyone will be. No timescale on it though

frustr8ed 07-07-2020 04:16 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Just had one full stealth acct accepted for MP.

I am wondering if anyone has had deposits made to a mismatch name account yet?

Also on the question of where refunds come from, my understanding is they wouldn't be able to withdraw funds from your account without having a direct debit mandate in place, and that is not what is being done? You need more than just a name, sort code and account number to be able to withdraw funds from a UK bank account.

JamesNorth101 07-07-2020 05:07 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frustr8ed (Post 1104478)
I am wondering if anyone has had deposits made to a mismatch name account yet?

It only becomes active in the UK towards the end of the month so until then no one knows

saiko 07-07-2020 08:26 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Hi
i am a new user here. sorry if i am posting in the wrong thread.
i run an ebay business under one account & it as my main income.
i have managed to run a stealth account for a while now using a limited company account, and putting a different details in ebay. and it's been doing well. even though i am legally registered as the directly of the company, i put a different name in ebay, but used my real id for paypal. now with MP. i am worried if i provide my id to ebay they will suspend my account again and knock down my business. my question is if i remove myself as a shareholder in the company and give my shares to a family member but remain as the only director. would ebay suspend the account if my name is linked?
i mean if you are suspended from ebay, can you work as a director for a company that you do not own? or will that affect the company? any thoughts is appreciated. thanks

Freakzilla 07-07-2020 10:59 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
How can they take funds from an account if there isn't a direct debit in place, or the debit card details for the account?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1104495)
Clearly they can take refunds from your bank account, it's one of the features listed.


JamesNorth101 07-07-2020 11:38 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freakzilla (Post 1104538)
How can they take funds from an account if there isn't a direct debit in place, or the debit card details for the account?

You agree to a DD when adding the bank account into MP

Ebayorbust 07-08-2020 06:43 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1104666)
No it’s not, because you won’t be able to use them. Nothing to even think about, the application will be declined.

Ah well, I guess the folk that have stated they added and verified a savings account must be lying then......

Savings accounts can certainly be added. Whether they stay that way once the payments start is another matter.

Bigblackdog 07-08-2020 06:53 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1104666)
No it’s not, because you won’t be able to use them. Nothing to even think about, the application will be declined.

I have 2 accounts approved - neither used savers. I do not see any way a savings account can have longevity if you cannot DD on it.

Ebayorbust 07-08-2020 06:57 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
The accounts that have been added and verified do not have dd mandate.

I am also aware of several other folk that have added Payoneer accounts which again do not support dd mandates.

I'm not saying for a second that it's going to work long term or even for a short period of time but your claim that "the application would be declined" is wrong.

JamesNorth101 07-08-2020 07:06 AM

Re: eBay UK - Managed Payments ? How will we stealth ?
 
At the moment savings accounts are working fine to get added (yes those without DDs)

May they get removed? Yep they may well do, but right now they add without a problem.

You believing it or it not makes little difference to what is actually happening.


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