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resilient 04-03-2021 12:26 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bazman (Post 1147995)
Thank you very much my friend for sharing.

So from what I see, you are correct. Stealth is effectively dead.. ish.

The only way to do it now is to create an account using a person's real accurate details, so that adyen can pass the soft credit check.

My question to you is, who's real details are you using for your new accounts now? And did they give consent? Would you say that using other people identities could potentially land them in Trouble, if for example you did something bad. So say if you sold f@xx goods, and the rights owner wants to sue, or if you are selling loads under there name, could they get done for tax evasion?
(Yes I know it's not good to sell F@ goods, just speculation)

You speak wisdom friend!
In an ideal world you will have the support of your ID donor, you won't be selling dodgy stuff, and you'll be paying all applicable income tax...
I'd like to see the stats of how many people on here adhere to the above...

Bazman 04-03-2021 02:05 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by resilient (Post 1148088)
You speak wisdom friend!
In an ideal world you will have the support of your ID donor, you won't be selling dodgy stuff, and you'll be paying all applicable income tax...
I'd like to see the stats of how many people on here adhere to the above...

Haha! That would be interesting

Bazman 04-03-2021 02:06 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Anyone else please feel free to comment on this topic that was just touched on. Be interesting to see

resilient 04-09-2021 12:57 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1147875)
I recently tested on uk account given them same detail as on account with international nationality

Sounds interesting!
Thinking logically, Adyen should not be able to run checks on foreign id.
But can you even use foreign id on eBay UK?

Can you please explain in more detail.

glacier922 04-09-2021 01:54 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 1147875)
Thanks for sharing, I recently tested on uk account given them same detail as on account with international nationality and they only asked to upload bank statement and after 2 days they given the date for activation for 12th April I am sure the soft search came back -ve and they not even asked for ID, let's see but this account is quite old and solid account let wait and see

How did you designate your account as international nationality?

Bradd 04-12-2021 11:41 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by resilient (Post 1148722)
Sounds interesting!
Thinking logically, Adyen should not be able to run checks on foreign id.
But can you even use foreign id on eBay UK?

Can you please explain in more detail.

What about all the chinese look at there adress they use there all in China but yet there selling in UK

resilient 04-19-2021 08:23 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradd (Post 1149071)
What about all the chinese look at there adress they use there all in China but yet there selling in UK

Chinese are selling on eBay UK but are still registered in China, not UK.
The discussion is whether, you can register on eBay UK (not another eBay website) with foreign ID, bank account etc..
It would be impossible for Adyen to run credit checks on foreign ids, so if the above is possible, then Stealth may be an option...

Hank 04-19-2021 09:14 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by resilient (Post 1150013)
Chinese are selling on eBay UK but are still registered in China, not UK.
The discussion is whether, you can register on eBay UK (not another eBay website) with foreign ID, bank account etc..
It would be impossible for Adyen to run credit checks on foreign ids, so if the above is possible, then Stealth may be an option...

In theory, yes you can as it's not against ebay policy.

One big downside is that, like Amazon do without exception, they'd expect you to register for VAT and that would mess up your stealth plans.

IMO Adyen are not carrying out credit checks.

WestHammer 04-19-2021 02:11 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Hank, how do you think they are verifying peoples information if not via a credit check?

They are certainly checking something, otherwise stealth would still be easily possible. They won't have access to passport or DVLA licence numbers, but have access to online credit information databases.

lally6677 04-19-2021 05:16 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
I think ebay run soft credit checks. They feed into transunion.

e2free 04-19-2021 11:00 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Ebay do run soft search to verify if they can't verify you then they ask for ID which are also run by automatic system it passes in few minute!

resilient 04-20-2021 12:31 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1150017)
IMO Adyen are not carrying out credit checks.

They are running credit checks on Name & DOB (potentially address???) against the UK database.
I've seen it with my own 2 eyes on Equifax and Trans Union to name a few...
100% guaranteed, hence all stealth id leads to immediate account TERMINATION.

I wish they didn't, stealth would have been the preferable option for me...

Ukseller1 04-25-2021 08:54 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
anyone else pass the mp checks with real name and dob, but with a f@ake address? I personally don't want my real address on mp. any help will be greatly appreciated :)

richie2065 04-28-2021 09:59 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Sorry No this is incorrect information, there are no credit checks on the name and DOB.
they run a know your customer check however this is not a credit check, its an ID check
Quote:

Originally Posted by resilient (Post 1150210)
They are running credit checks on Name & DOB (potentially address???) against the UK database.
I've seen it with my own 2 eyes on Equifax and Trans Union to name a few...
100% guaranteed, hence all stealth id leads to immediate account TERMINATION.

I wish they didn't, stealth would have been the preferable option for me...


resilient 04-28-2021 10:35 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie2065 (Post 1151416)
Sorry No this is incorrect information, there are no credit checks on the name and DOB.
they run a know your customer check however this is not a credit check, its an ID check

This is true as you are not applying for a credit line so no need for a credit check.
By using the term 'credit check' most users here refer to the 'id check' mentioned by the above user!
So technically the above is correct.

However, it is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT for the purposes of this thread.
The bottom line is your info is being checked against the national database...

'call-them-what-ever-you-want' checks are being run against all ids - NAME & DOB MUST MATCH!!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise...you'll be kicked out before you can blink! :rip:
Not sure if address needs to match!

This has been confirmed through many trials & errors on over 15 eBay accounts.
All searches are clearly logged on Equifax, TransUnion and Experian.

Jam918 04-28-2021 08:46 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by resilient (Post 1151427)
This is true as you are not applying for a credit line so no need for a credit check.
By using the term 'credit check' most users here refer to the 'id check' mentioned by the above user!
So technically the above is correct.

However, it is TOTALLY IRRELEVANT for the purposes of this thread.
The bottom line is your info is being checked against the national database...

'call-them-what-ever-you-want' checks are being run against all ids - NAME & DOB MUST MATCH!!! Don't let anyone tell you otherwise...you'll be kicked out before you can blink! :rip:
Not sure if address needs to match!

This has been confirmed through many trials & errors on over 15 eBay accounts.
All searches are clearly logged on Equifax, TransUnion and Experian.

so NAME & DOB must match and real,what about the address,can they check if this person lives at this address.

Uavmods 04-29-2021 01:27 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Not sure what you are all on about but I have been running manage payments on a full stealth account for over 6 months now no problems.
Made up name, address, ID the only thing that is real is the bank account
Plus I have another account running on manage payments with no ID upload lol

rsot 04-29-2021 03:35 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uavmods (Post 1151521)
Not sure what you are all on about but I have been running manage payments on a full stealth account for over 6 months now no problems.
Made up name, address, ID the only thing that is real is the bank account
Plus I have another account running on manage payments with no ID upload lol

High sales volume? Just wondering

ebabe 04-30-2021 05:13 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Have a legit ebay account with real details, got the may 31st invite to MP. Will switch over and submit docs about 3 weeks from now, my question is, is Ayden the one who is doing the checks?? when it comes to the documents

resilient 05-05-2021 02:05 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Uavmods (Post 1151521)
Not sure what you are all on about but I have been running manage payments on a full stealth account for over 6 months now no problems.
Made up name, address, ID the only thing that is real is the bank account
Plus I have another account running on manage payments with no ID upload lol

If you've read my previous posts, you would know what 'I am all about'.
I, too, managed to pass half of my stealths during the first MP wave in July last year. The other half, however, still got banned!!!
Checks were not as strict then (not all id's were being checked due to teething problems).

However, NOWADAYS, all ids are being 100% checked against the national database.
If you try and activate stealth now, you'll be banned INSTANTLY!!!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
All tested and confirmed through numerous eBay accounts, I've provided detailed updates in previous posts...

resilient 05-05-2021 02:13 PM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebabe (Post 1151842)
Have a legit ebay account with real details, got the may 31st invite to MP. Will switch over and submit docs about 3 weeks from now, my question is, is Ayden the one who is doing the checks?? when it comes to the documents

Yes, you'll be able to see the 'Adyen' entry in your credit report...
As another user stated above this is only an 'id check', basically them verifying you are a real person.
This is not a 'credit check' as you are not applying for a line of credit...so your credit history won't matter...you just need to 'exist'!

Also, if your details are 'legit' (a real person) you won't be asked to upload any docs.
The activation process for you will be seamless...

eusebio 05-19-2021 05:12 AM

Re: What approach have you guys taken with MP?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukseller1 (Post 1150910)
anyone else pass the mp checks with real name and dob, but with a f@ake address? I personally don't want my real address on mp. any help will be greatly appreciated :)

Did you pass through with random address?

Anyone?


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