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rafiqbd007 11-20-2020 08:46 AM

MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
After successfully activation for MP payouts declined. Legit Santander bank just address changed on bank statement provided to Ebay. Today buyer sent me a message he tried to place an order but can not make payments. I think this account is going to suspend. Already lost 3 solid count after registering for MP.

richie2065 11-20-2020 09:43 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
its a common problem at the moment, ebay/adyen are performing some checks which are flagging back. this you would think points to a name and address issue with the bank however some people have passed these and are running MP with stealth details
so is it a check on the name and address at the address thats failed - doubtful
is it the bank rejecting the requests because the name/address doesnt match -??

brassmonkey 11-20-2020 10:59 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
The address does not matter - it will be the name and ID that are causing issues

james_112233 11-20-2020 12:01 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Looks like a name / ID thing to me. @rafiqbd you say it's a legit santander acc but what about the name, DOB and ID you submitted ? were they real or made up.

zamzam 11-20-2020 12:07 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126036)
After successfully activation for MP payouts declined. Legit Santander bank just address changed on bank statement provided to Ebay. Today buyer sent me a message he tried to place an order but can not make payments. I think this account is going to suspend. Already lost 3 solid count after registering for MP.

The address wont effect it

Its what ID is submitted that is the issue.

rafiqbd007 11-20-2020 03:07 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Address and date of birth is stealth do not match with my real dob. They sent me confirmation message on Ebay bank and I'd verified. But after activation funds pa outs declined. Today a customer message me he can not make a payment and I had no sale today. I am expecting soon account will be suspended. Already lost 4 solid stealth ebay accounts which i was running for 6 to 7 years. I have no courage anymore to try. No success for me so far.

rafiqbd007 11-20-2020 03:10 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
I have my legit Ebay account ruining solid with MP. Never needed to upload Id or bank statement. Stealt account is the problem I think.

rafiqbd007 11-20-2020 03:15 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
For me it's time to concentrate on my legit account and make it bigger. Until I get full confidence to register with MP again no more registration. For sake of experiment lost my 4 golden goose. No strenth left. Docs and ID was professionally make but I think the seupend because of no database match.

rafiqbd007 11-20-2020 03:16 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
If you guys have any advise please let me know. Thanks

james_112233 11-20-2020 03:43 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
This is exactly my worry, losing my stores "experimenting"

I am so tempted to just put in my real information but terrified they will take away my legit account as well with a mass ban.

Haven't been this stressed in a long time.

frustr8ed 11-21-2020 10:04 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Has anybody had a full stealth account pass MP and receive payments in the last month or so?

I had one pass in July, but with the latest one I submitted docs, and then 10 days later a full ban (usually the docs just get rejected if they are not right). I don’t think it was the docs themselves and Whilst they can do database checks, I don’t think they would reject on the basis of not passing an electronic check, as that is when they ask for ID.

I didn’t even get to the stage of accepting payments, but I don’t think a mismatch name is the issue, checking with my Bank I had the eBay direct debit already set up.

james_112233 11-21-2020 11:47 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frustr8ed (Post 1126324)
Has anybody had a full stealth account pass MP and receive payments in the last month or so?

I had one pass in July, but with the latest one I submitted docs, and then 10 days later a full ban (usually the docs just get rejected if they are not right). I don’t think it was the docs themselves and Whilst they can do database checks, I don’t think they would reject on the basis of not passing an electronic check, as that is when they ask for ID.

I didn’t even get to the stage of accepting payments, but I don’t think a mismatch name is the issue, checking with my Bank I had the eBay direct debit already set up.

But despite your most recent account getting banned you have one that's through, receiving payments just fine that is full stealth ?

So made up name, address, docs ?

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 12:00 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Just CHAT with Ebay about my customer can not make payments and my payouts declined...

They said: It looks like you'll need to verify you account details, there isn't a red banner that you need to do this with. I will be requesting for the banner to be populated.

I said: i already provided documents

They said: I can see those, they look good. It is another verification step that we have, it didn't populate correctly which is why your buyers can't pay and your payouts are sending.
It's a easy fix and we will get it handled for you.

HurricaneHuntr 11-21-2020 12:11 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Well good news, but never trust ebay reps.Wait and see!

james_112233 11-21-2020 12:15 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126346)
Just CHAT with Ebay about my customer can not make payments and my payouts declined...

They said: It looks like you'll need to verify you account details, there isn't a red banner that you need to do this with. I will be requesting for the banner to be populated.

I said: i already provided documents

They said: I can see those, they look good. It is another verification step that we have, it didn't populate correctly which is why your buyers can't pay and your payouts are sending.
It's a easy fix and we will get it handled for you.

Sounds promising. I have PM'd you, need some clarification.

james_112233 11-21-2020 12:16 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Why did you lose 4 other stores though ? what did you do differently with those ?

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 12:26 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Bank account verifies at first easily with every account. After uploading photo ID problem happens. I tried driver license and passport id and expected at least can save 2 accounts. Last try what they just said today: another kind of verification...

frustr8ed 11-21-2020 12:29 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1126342)
But despite your most recent account getting banned you have one that's through, receiving payments just fine that is full stealth ??


Yep. It was early I. The programme so may be an anomaly

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 12:36 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Time to come out from my comfort zone. Successfully run stealth account for 10 years all thanks to Aspkin forum. Now will spend most of my time with my legit account. Question is you never know when you make a mistake and they suspend your main and last one.

Few good stealth accounts left going to put them in: CRYOSLEEP

Until someone find the: Mirakuru

175tom 11-21-2020 12:37 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
So have you received any payment via MP yet? Or is it just a case of when you have sold an item a buyer cannot pay?

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 12:52 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Two payments received after activation. But two payouts was declined. Now customer can not make payments.

175tom 11-21-2020 12:57 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
When you say payout do you mean you have tried to withdraw the money to your bank and it has declined? I have received my first MP payment it is showing as pending so im waiting for that money to be free from any holds and then I will withdraw.

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 01:00 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
They automatically tried to withdraw to my bank. Payouts was set everyday.

mike75493245 11-21-2020 03:06 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126360)
They automatically tried to withdraw to my bank. Payouts was set everyday.

did ebay make any successful payouts before or was it the first payout that was declined?

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 04:23 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
No successful payouts. First two was declined. Waiting for a new verification which they will add to my Ebay by Monday or Tuesday.

mike75493245 11-21-2020 04:30 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126380)
No successful payouts. First two was declined. Waiting for a new verification which they will add to my Ebay by Monday or Tuesday.

it is likely an ID problem where they check each ID and seed out the ones that do not match their criteria , I guess the days of old stealth are over

agent006140 11-21-2020 04:36 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
customer cannot make payment,why should it be your problem?
could it be on his end?
it is your problem when AYdEN tries to deposit fund into your bank account

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 04:57 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Few customer contacted with me about this. I know its in my account. Ebay told i need to verify A NEW METHOD to receive payments and payouts. Will find out what they ask on Monday or Tuesday.

supernova 11-21-2020 05:02 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Op did you get a reference number of some sort?

You don't want Monday to come aound and you call and they have no idea what your talking about.

mike75493245 11-21-2020 05:28 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
in other words it is the same thing as a paypal limitation where they request additional information and do not allow to receive new payments in the meantime and of course do not allow to withdraw.

it looks more and more than the new managed payments system will be exactly the same thing as paypal previously only with very tough id verification and strong limitations on which withdrawal methods you can use. it will also be no better as far as "frozen funds" are concerned.

rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 06:14 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
No reference was given. They said a RED banner will pop up by next few day. Lets see what they ask.

richie2065 11-21-2020 06:14 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
are you using the option for them to sign into your bank when doing the sign up?

Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126352)
Time to come out from my comfort zone. Successfully run stealth account for 10 years all thanks to Aspkin forum. Now will spend most of my time with my legit account. Question is you never know when you make a mistake and they suspend your main and last one.

Few good stealth accounts left going to put them in: CRYOSLEEP

Until someone find the: Mirakuru


rafiqbd007 11-21-2020 06:17 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
I uploaded the bank statement. Did not log in through Ebay. I thought they may see my other bank account which is connected to other Ebay MP accounts.

sugarlaces 11-22-2020 06:08 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Has anyone experimented with creating ltd company , changing name to real name, dob, address on stealth and submitting ltd company bank account?

james_112233 11-22-2020 06:42 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mike75493245 (Post 1126394)
in other words it is the same thing as a paypal limitation where they request additional information and do not allow to receive new payments in the meantime and of course do not allow to withdraw.

it looks more and more than the new managed payments system will be exactly the same thing as paypal previously only with very tough id verification and strong limitations on which withdrawal methods you can use. it will also be no better as far as "frozen funds" are concerned.

Nah aydens checks are much more thorough. It's not as easy as the paypal checks where they just "glance" at the documents.

james_112233 11-22-2020 06:47 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Since OP has done pretty much what I was planning to do, I didn't want to risk losing this store so just submitted my real details.

mike75493245 11-22-2020 08:07 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1126468)
Nah aydens checks are much more thorough. It's not as easy as the paypal checks where they just "glance" at the documents.

the thing with paypal is that when the limitation is high level meaning that all operations are blocked on a well running account incl. receiving money then they usually ask for id and additional documents and after upload the account is almost always suspended indefinitely so I would not really see paypal as easy to deal with as far as a high level limitation is concerned

rafiqbd007 11-22-2020 11:58 AM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Eventually we will find a way. Everything at first is strict. Ebay is going loose a lot of money i think after all this suspension i think.

sugarlaces 11-22-2020 01:45 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rafiqbd007 (Post 1126518)
Eventually we will find a way. Everything at first is strict. Ebay is going loose a lot of money i think after all this suspension i think.

I don't think they will lose as much as we sellers lose and they know we will get back on even if that means starting again with your granny name.

james_112233 11-22-2020 02:19 PM

Re: MP payouts declined after successfully enrolled
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarlaces (Post 1126534)
I don't think they will lose as much as we sellers lose and they know we will get back on even if that means starting again with your granny name.

That would have been my final move. Should I find no way to get back on it's asking a family members permission to get back to business. Possibly my mother or father who have never used ebay or amazon in their life so I could potentially have fresh accounts.


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