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starengine 06-17-2021 08:53 AM

How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Bank details given.
Real name used.
All OK.

Then... they say they need photo ID.
Address used was real, but not address of name.

So... an alarm bell must have been set off at Ayden.
I wanted to know what checks they have to connect a name to an address?

Let's say someone moves to a new address where their name isn't connected.
Will this create an alarm?

Would love to know the inner workings of Ayden.
The more experiences us guys share, the more we can piece together the jigsaw.

slokor 06-17-2021 08:12 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
In the US that sort of info is easily accessible through any number of public info databases. Wouldn't surprise me if in the UK it is a similar situation.

Jigsaw 06-17-2021 08:55 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
They do a soft credit check, that is why. Name, address and DOB all must match.

starengine 06-18-2021 04:55 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
So what happens if one gives details that aren't in these databases?
Let's say DOB was 2 years out? And address, was a real address - but not for that name?
What then?

Bradd 06-23-2021 11:03 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
I think if the sofy credit check dont find anything to match your Ebay details they will ask for ID essentially you dont exist

murdered_by_ebay 06-23-2021 12:48 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
they don't do soft check , they verify name , address and DOB , it is not a credit check so you won't see it on your credit report. but if any information is stealth you will be suspended unless you provide real information and have not sent in any stealth ID. if you have already sent a stealth ID you don't need to bother changing details to real , you are 100% guaranteed to be suspended

yankee 06-23-2021 01:07 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
lexusnexus most likely is how. You should be able to freeze your lexusnexus BUT then they cant verify you at all and will ask for docs.

murdered_by_ebay 06-23-2021 01:29 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
it is more likely experian since their countries of operation seem identical to adyen verification countries

probably the below system or something similar

https://www.experian.co.uk/business/...boarding/index

I think the weak point of ebay verification is payoneer because payoneer has a much weaker verification where stealth is still possible , I think that is also the reason why Adyen does not verify in those countries. So it is likely we will soon see accounts for sale here where there will be stealth payoneer attached. payoneer verification has always been comparatively weak and most certainly a lot weaker than Adyen

richie2065 06-24-2021 03:29 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
They do not check/verify the address - name and DOB yes
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jigsaw (Post 1158654)
They do a soft credit check, that is why. Name, address and DOB all must match.


Pandoras_box 06-24-2021 05:02 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159428)
they don't do soft check , they verify name , address and DOB , it is not a credit check so you won't see it on your credit report.

Verify from where exactly?

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 05:32 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
read my post , it says from where

Pandoras_box 06-24-2021 05:35 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie2065 (Post 1159502)
They do not check/verify the address - name and DOB yes

Interesting. :rolleyes: I'm going to sit in a corner all day and crochet something that isn't there.

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 05:39 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by richie2065 (Post 1159502)
They do not check/verify the address - name and DOB yes

yes , they do check the address , if you state an address not present in your credit history you will not be verified

Pandoras_box 06-24-2021 05:54 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159514)
read my post , it says from where

Are you sure they use exactly what you said or are you speculating?

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 06:02 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
There are multiple credit agencies , could be a different one. I am also sure they will run the same kind of checks in all other countries where bank account is placed on ebay directly.

dune 06-24-2021 10:23 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159518)
yes , they do check the address , if you state an address not present in your credit history you will not be verified

Would you recommend to change the adress on file with the bank to the stealth one on eBay before linking it with the eBay M.P. registering process so it matches?. We could always change the bank adress to our real one when everything is well verified.

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 10:45 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aorcat (Post 1159565)
Would you recommend to change the adress on file with the bank to the stealth one on eBay before linking it with the eBay M.P. registering process so it matches?. We could always change the bank adress to our real one when everything is well verified.

it would not be a stealth address anymore but yes addresses can be added to credit history if it is needed , I just can't see the point , except maybe that someone would not like to have their main address on ebay for whatever reason

dune 06-24-2021 10:58 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159567)
it would not be a stealth address anymore but yes addresses can be added to credit history if it is needed , I just can't see the point , except maybe that someone would not like to have their main address on ebay for whatever reason

Does my "stealth adress" have to stay in the bank, previous opting in M.P., for a period of time in order to appear in the credit history?. Or a few days would be ok?

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 11:46 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aorcat (Post 1159568)
Does my "stealth adress" have to stay in the bank, previous opting in M.P., for a period of time in order to appear in the credit history?. Or a few days would be ok?

although you can add or remove addresses I can't see the point why it is needed. You would be identified by name and DOB anyway , even if you change many addresses

dune 06-24-2021 12:01 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159574)
although you can add or remove addresses I can't see the point why it is needed. You would be identified by name and DOB anyway , even if you change many addresses

Well got my own reasons can't post in open forums.
But are you sure the adress must be "not stealth"?. (It would be real, for example an apartment quite near the adress I live in and have with the bank)

In other words, In order to pass the credit check you must have (had) a bank with the "stealth" adress on it?

Could it take a couple of months for it to show up on your credit score if I change the adress in the bank right now?

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 12:26 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
address can be changed but I don't know how long it takes until all databases are updated

dune 06-24-2021 12:47 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159581)
address can be changed but I don't know how long it takes until all databases are updated

Ok, and what about if the person is real, never had a bank account before and now wants to open an eBay account to sell. The person opens a bank account and everything matches (even the adress). eBay won't allow that person to sell because they can't have a credit check of the person?. They won't allow personal accounts like this?, it can't be possible !

Ukseller1 06-24-2021 02:22 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Address is something that they cannot take 100% seriously?

People move house all the time. Surely that would be a problem for them verifying address identification.

Example - my wife chucks me out tomorrow and I open up an account at new address, but i move back in a few weeks/months. Or am I missing something?

murdered_by_ebay 06-24-2021 06:12 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukseller1 (Post 1159593)
Address is something that they cannot take 100% seriously?

People move house all the time. Surely that would be a problem for them verifying address identification.

Example - my wife chucks me out tomorrow and I open up an account at new address, but i move back in a few weeks/months. Or am I missing something?

banks take addresses seriously and it is not only banks , there is a bunch of financial companies doing exactly the same.

I personally know several people who opened stealth accounts with some well known companies , they all were shut down at some point. I happen to have accounts with some of the same companies as well but in my real name and they never asked me to send in any ID and I have been using them for a long time. so they must have a way to check who I am?

dune 06-25-2021 02:40 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159619)
banks take addresses seriously and it is not only banks , there is a bunch of financial companies doing exactly the same.

I personally know several people who opened stealth accounts with some well known companies , they all were shut down at some point. I happen to have accounts with some of the same companies as well but in my real name and they never asked me to send in any ID and I have been using them for a long time. so they must have a way to check who I am?

Sorry but I don't see it ... I can go on vacations tomorrow to an apartment in renting and once there open an online bank account on a major bank. It asks to upload your ID card, make a "video-selfie" for ID verification. But for the adress you can put the one of the "holiday rented apartment" to receive the credit card associated. No way the adress must match ...

What do you want to say is that eBay won't ask you to upload your ID card/ driver license if ID and ALSO adress matches?. Because I guess that it is more like PayPal, when you reach a certain amount of money they request uploading the ID doc like any bank would do (But banks do it from the 1st minute)

rsot 06-25-2021 04:57 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159619)
I personally know several people who opened stealth accounts with some well known companies , they all were shut down at some point. I happen to have accounts with some of the same companies as well but in my real name and they never asked me to send in any ID and I have been using them for a long time. so they must have a way to check who I am?

Or could be that you aren't tripping any security flags...yet

murdered_by_ebay 06-25-2021 08:18 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aorcat (Post 1159646)
Sorry but I don't see it ... I can go on vacations tomorrow to an apartment in renting and once there open an online bank account on a major bank. It asks to upload your ID card, make a "video-selfie" for ID verification. But for the adress you can put the one of the "holiday rented apartment" to receive the credit card associated. No way the adress must match ...

What do you want to say is that eBay won't ask you to upload your ID card/ driver license if ID and ALSO adress matches?. Because I guess that it is more like PayPal, when you reach a certain amount of money they request uploading the ID doc like any bank would do (But banks do it from the 1st minute)

I think they have ways to check people through databases , at least in some countries like here in the UK. I know that such checks exist , for example I have not been to any bank branch for many years , I don't even remember when I was in a bank branch the last time , nevertheless I easily open accounts with various banks online incl. those where I have never had an account before and they do not ask for any docs at all and those are not some small pseudo middlesmen but major banking corporations

RipeBanana 06-25-2021 03:30 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159708)
I think they have ways to check people through databases , at least in some countries like here in the UK. I know that such checks exist , for example I have not been to any bank branch for many years , I don't even remember when I was in a bank branch the last time , nevertheless I easily open accounts with various banks online incl. those where I have never had an account before and they do not ask for any docs at all and those are not some small pseudo middlesmen but major banking corporations

Are you on the electoral roll?

murdered_by_ebay 06-25-2021 05:07 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
I am not on the open register for sure

agent006140 06-26-2021 09:17 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
financial institutions know more about us than they would tell us-
once USPS misplaced my mail,it is an offer from my cc issuer with 2 drafts for me to spend ,total $900.
Someone used one of them to pay his Capital One credit card,my cc issuer called me to verify,I said it aint me,then they said we know,as you dont do business with Capital One,we will just cancel it and the next one as well when it shows up !
Then there are some who get calls from their cc issuer,someone charged his card in Cancun ,Mexico,how is it possible when he just charged for his Starbuck coffee 2 hours ago in NYC?
Yahoo shopping also have software which spots someone who makes rapid purchase across the venue,buying from different shops for items which can quickly turned into cash.
In Tex,landlords can tap into a database which shows deadbeats who moved out without paying rent.
I think TGT also uses facial recognition software like those Las Vegas casinos,just a guess

brassmonkey 06-28-2021 01:41 PM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Address does not matter; the address does not have to be linked to the name and the address does not have to be real.

I'm not sure what checks are done but the address is definitely not checked.

richie2065 06-30-2021 10:20 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
I have 6 MP stealth accounts running right now that beg to differ with this
Address is irrelevant
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1159518)
yes , they do check the address , if you state an address not present in your credit history you will not be verified


murdered_by_ebay 06-30-2021 10:28 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
so all stealths have real details on them except address?

brassmonkey 06-30-2021 10:54 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1160554)
so all stealths have real details on them except address?

Yes but you couldn't really call them stealth as most of the details are real.

Aguero 06-30-2021 10:59 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 1160557)
Yes but you couldn't really call them stealth as most of the details are real.

Yes, semi-stealth accounts :)

starengine 07-01-2021 10:19 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Guys... going back to the original question...
I have more experience now and can comment.

1. Address does matter. They have 'some' sort of check. I believe this would be the like a credit rating agency. So, if you use an address that is logged under your name, then all is OK. They don't even bother asking for ID or address proof docs.

2. If you use a new address, then they ask you to submit a photo ID.

As mentioned above, one could move to a new address and give this as the address for using with ebay. The problems you will have for opening a new bank account will be the same for ebay (I guess) - where they will make sure all is OK.

You can have a fully verified address with photo ID and still be banned from ebay for 'unknown' and unspecified reasons.

murdered_by_ebay 07-01-2021 11:43 AM

Re: How do ebay connect name and address?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by starengine (Post 1160738)
Guys... going back to the original question...
I have more experience now and can comment.

1. Address does matter. They have 'some' sort of check. I believe this would be the like a credit rating agency. So, if you use an address that is logged under your name, then all is OK. They don't even bother asking for ID or address proof docs.

2. If you use a new address, then they ask you to submit a photo ID.

As mentioned above, one could move to a new address and give this as the address for using with ebay. The problems you will have for opening a new bank account will be the same for ebay (I guess) - where they will make sure all is OK.

You can have a fully verified address with photo ID and still be banned from ebay for 'unknown' and unspecified reasons.

address is not a real issue , even if you need a new address for whatever reason you can ask your bank to add it as your main address and wait a little before adding it to ebay. you can be banned with real or stealth ID depending on the result of the background checks. obviously if those should say no one knows who you are you are more likely to be taken out for security reasons


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