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Questions about Banks and Cards
 

Hi guys,

I was thinking about going back to eBay and I see that a lot has changed with MP, I'm throwing some questions to you:

Does the Wise vcc's for eBay still works?, I tried to enter one and I get an error that the address doesn't match. I'm sure that Revolut vcc's doesn't work, any suggestion of VCCs for paying fees?.

If I pay eBay fees from my bank account, will they see my real name and ban me? I know that mismatch for receiving is fine but for paying the fees?

I was thinking of opening a LTD company with Tide but I have read horror stories on trustpilot, my other option would be to register it with another registrar and add Revolut Business.

is a business account better than a personal account for stealth accounts?

Thank you

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Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:


Marketplace sellers have VCCs that should work.

They can see the real name but ban will depend on other issues such as what you sell, other links, etc.

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Thanks for the welcome @rsot.

My personal account was suspended (due to a previous ban in another country) and I was selling low profile and low value items.

All I did was register with my real UK details, I thought maybe the database wasn't linked to the different countries, and after selling 2 items under £10 I got the message "your account has been suspended... your account has been permanently suspended due to activity that we believe put the eBay community at risk". I guess I got flagged for putting in real bank and credit card details.

Do you guys think a LTD will work, or when they see I'm the director will they ban me again?

I have to think hard about how to set up new accounts.

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How quickly were you suspended? Seems quick - likely way too much overlapping info - what info did you reuse?

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It was very weird, I didn't sell items on eBay for several years. And I decided to get rid of some low cost products I had at home. I didn't have an eBay UK account, so I registered, placed the 2 ads, auctions at 1.99. Within a week both listings were sold and paid for, I sent them off, put in the shipping tracking details and forgot about it.

Within days I received that message (maybe 2 or 3 weeks from account registration), and a few weeks later I received the payment from eBay/Ayden.

The only reused information I put was my name, DOB and ID. The phone number, address and bank account were new, I had never sold on eBay UK nor cashed in pounds, nor used that bank account.

I was banned, maybe 18 years ago, but this people never forget.

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low cost products were branded?

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I think so, it were two toys for kids, one was branded. But I didn't receive any warning of VERO or anything, just a few days after the end of the auction, BAN.

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Revolut works perfectly for paying fees and printing postage labels off through PayPal check out as a guest to get funds quicker.

No they won’t see your name when paying fees. When you make a sale through eBay the fees are automatically deducting from your sale. If you list a buy it now and it doesn’t sell then it’s 0.35 I pay using revolut. But my item sells anyway I just pay if it says negative 35p

I was thinking of opening a LTD company with Tide but I have read horror stories on trustpilot, my other option would be to register it with another registrar and add Revolut Business.

is a business account better than a personal account for stealth accounts?

I prefer personal accounts because you don’t have to worry about a seller dashboard late delivery rate etc or cancelling an order if you need to. It’s just an easier life for me.

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Could be the brand name e.g. Lego...if used

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Could be, I never thought about that but today I made a new account un UK, and got banned in 30 minutes after the first advert.

I use ipburger residential proxies, a multilogin browser, a real data of a friend, new account, I put an advert of a non brand cheap item, I didn't add the bank account first, I selected I will add later.

And after 30 minutes, I receive the email "permanently suspended because of activity that we believe was putting the eBay community at risk".

Any idea of what I'm doing wrong? it's very frustrating.

The only weird thing was the phone number (burner phone number textme), all the other set up was premium (ipburger, multilogin).

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What was the phone number you used? How much did you list the cheap item for?

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It was an UK "textme" phone number (virtual). I listed the item for 1.99 pounds.

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Your better off creating an account with a 99p SIM card and free phone number on the back.

Also the item you listed was too cheap. I would list an item £30+ with paid shipping as well.

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Yes, the virtual phone number can be a problem. I Will use a prepaid SIM card next time.

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samspalace is right - if your account has too many random "issues" e.g. cheap listing, virtual phone number, etc - the security flags can add up leading to a quick ban

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Thanks for your help guys, these days I will try again with a regular SIM card + a 30 pounds item. I'll share my progress.

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Maybe there is something new going on at ebay? Sounds a bit like what happened to me except for the fact I was never banned before, I got a 30 days restriction on my account which I waited out, when the restriction was lifted I decided to open a new account not to risk suspension, listed one unbranded no risk item and ironically I got suspended permanently with no appeal and for no reason, waited a few days, opened a new account and listed 1 item and the new account was banned in 30 minutes.... seems weird and it seems more people than usual is having trouble this days, judging by the amount of new posts with similar issues.

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YOu can't use a textme or voip ... textme is known for the longest time to be problematic.

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A lot of newbies will have problems because the stealth guide is not up to date so it all comes down to trial and error.

Took me 16 accounts to finally get 1 account working right. Once you know how the bots and system works it’s very predictable and you can work around it. Just keep trying and you will conquer it.

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I'm sure now that the problem were the voip numbers. I use websites that give you a temporary number for verification purposes, I understand now why my accounts were banned at the moment of start selling despite of using good proxies.

I bought some SIM cards for testing purposes, I hope this time works.

Thanks again for all your advices.

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We’re here to help let us know how you get on :)

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So what would be your tips? Obviously if you are inclined to share?

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Yes of course I will share my tips I want everyone to be back on eBay. My method for creation is below

1) new user account
2) new ip (using my own router turning it off/on for new ip)
3) my real name and date of birth
4) previous address lived at which is on my credit report. If you only lived at one address you can change address through online banking it will appear on your credit report when you change address back to your home address the new address will still stay on your credit report which is good for eBay.
5) EE SIM card 99p free phone number on the back (don’t have to top up either)
6) savings account Santander, Halifax, Lloyds, Bank of Scotland and TSB savings accounts is what I use
7) revolut disposable cards for printing labels off through paypal check out as a guest. This way you get your funds when customer receives order.
8) yahoo or gmail account both are good

That’s my set up. Once you have a set up you need to test the account to make sure it’s strong.

I list straight away on the account. I type in random item in eBay search box example would be car part, drill, tv stand. I then put items sold between £50 and £100 used items.

I scroll to last page which is roughly 3 months old listing. I copy image, title, description and list it around £30+ with paid postage. I list it for 7 days auction.

Once the item sells 2 hours later I will cancel order. I wait 2 hours because in this time frame you can get 3 emails.

Email 1) reactivate your eBay account
Email 2) we couldn’t verify your identity
Email 3) your account is suspended

These are normally triggered between 30 mins and 2 hours. If you don’t get these emails after 2 hours you know your account is good.

After the item is sold 3 days later eBay will send deposits to your bank account. Once you receive the deposits to your bank account input them into eBay.

Once you have confirmed your bank account your ready to list your own item.

Btw I only create personal accounts and not business accounts. Personal accounts are more relaxed with cancelling an order and you don’t have seller dashboard or metrics to worry about.

I’m sure this will help you out :)

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Are you saying that You are able to register several times with 3&4?

I thought it's mandatory to use different data for stealth accounts. My real 3&4 account was banned without reason. Can I use my real data again in a new account?

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I guess you live outside of the US too. How did you get a non-VOIP phone number?

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well I did that, I created a new account with real details (reused from a previous ban account), new real phone number, IPBurger, Multilogin, item between 30 - 40 pounds and after 32 minutes "Your account has been suspended ... permanently suspended because of activity that we believe was putting the eBay community at risk".

I'm lost.

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Yes you can create an account using your name date of birth and previous address on your credit report.

Don’t use the same address which got previously banned with managed payments it won’t work.

Maybe try using a dongle or changing ip on your router. It works perfectly for me every single time.

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Thanks for the tips Samspalace, I'll try again without proxies. I hope it works.

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you can easily use your address which was banned on MP if it was not for heavy violations. for example suspension for failed verification is not a problem you can just reuse similar details on another account if they are correct , and if you pass verification you will not be suspended

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As far as I am aware, and can be confirmed by reading the stealth guide, your real name and DOB can not be reused, not sure how sam got away with it.

I created an account in my dads name with his real details apart from the address, on a brand new device, IP sim etc, but I made the mistake of putting my real name on managed payments where it asks for name of the bank holder. The account was banned within 30 minutes of listing a generic toy.

I personally believe everything should be new and no previous details should be reused.

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What do CS ask you when you contact them to reactivate your account?

what about

Email 4) Important information regarding your payouts

?

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Your name and date of birth can be re used I have multiple accounts in my real name date of birth and address on my credit report.

I created another account last Thursday with my name and previous address lived at. If you think of it the only thing is the same is your name and date of birth everything else is different.

You can do this with PayPal as well but PayPal is be lenient where you can use any real address.

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Yes this is 100% correct! This happened on 3 of my accounts I created on 3 different phones all got suspended with in 30 mins.

A month later I created the accounts on my laptop new user with router and these accounts same details as last accounts are still active now.

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They will ask you what are your goals on eBay? Where do you get your stock from? What do you plan on selling? How much will you be selling for? This email is only hit on an account with in 30 mins if eBay can’t verify you. You can pass it by answering questions but you can also be suspended.

Email 4: I’ve not received this message and the reason why is because I don’t rely on one account I have multiple accounts and all accounts are verified. If your eBay account is not verified then this is when you will get this email. It’s normally down to your bank not being verified.

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The account you created with your dads permission. Was the address a real address? Was it an address which was not suspended before?

How much did you list the toy for? If you listed it to cheap your account will be suspended.

Also if you think about it. You moved to a different address and used your name date of birth and new address you moved to you wouldn’t have any issues creating a new account it’s the same if you re use an address on your credit report which was not suspended.

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random suspension of new accounts do not count as real suspensions at all. you can use the same details again without problems. they just suspend people randomly and do not blacklist details. in my previous post I meant other suspensions that are not random

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Nice feature of MP

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Yep real address, not suspended before, toy was around 19.99 a lego set.
My name and address was previously suspended and i believe is blacklisted.

On a separate note, are we allowed to ask Ebay to give us all info they have on us under GDPR regulations?

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I've received this email a couple of times even before the bank has been added

"Once the item sells 2 hours later I will cancel order. I wait 2 hours because in this time frame you can get 3 emails. "

Also, what does this mean? How do you know you will sell 2 hours later?

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I think he means that 2 hours is enough time to see if you are ban or not. In my case 32 minutes are enough.

At the moment I have one account live thanks to samspalace's advices, i Will see in a couple of days if I can sell some items everyday without ban.