Questions about Banks and Cards

Evander · #1 10-01-2022

Hi guys,

I was thinking about going back to eBay and I see that a lot has changed with MP, I'm throwing some questions to you:

Does the Wise vcc's for eBay still works?, I tried to enter one and I get an error that the address doesn't match. I'm sure that Revolut vcc's doesn't work, any suggestion of VCCs for paying fees?.

If I pay eBay fees from my bank account, will they see my real name and ban me? I know that mismatch for receiving is fine but for paying the fees?

I was thinking of opening a LTD company with Tide but I have read horror stories on trustpilot, my other option would be to register it with another registrar and add Revolut Business.

is a business account better than a personal account for stealth accounts?

Thank you

rsot · #2 10-01-2022

Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth

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Marketplace sellers have VCCs that should work.

They can see the real name but ban will depend on other issues such as what you sell, other links, etc.

Evander · #3 10-01-2022

Thanks for the welcome @rsot.

My personal account was suspended (due to a previous ban in another country) and I was selling low profile and low value items.

All I did was register with my real UK details, I thought maybe the database wasn't linked to the different countries, and after selling 2 items under £10 I got the message "your account has been suspended... your account has been permanently suspended due to activity that we believe put the eBay community at risk". I guess I got flagged for putting in real bank and credit card details.

Do you guys think a LTD will work, or when they see I'm the director will they ban me again?

I have to think hard about how to set up new accounts.

rsot · #4 10-01-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

All I did was register with my real UK details, I thought maybe the database wasn't linked to the different countries, and after selling 2 items under £10 I got the message "your account has been suspended... your account has been permanently suspended due to activity that we believe put the eBay community at risk". I guess I got flagged for putting in real bank and credit card details.

How quickly were you suspended? Seems quick - likely way too much overlapping info - what info did you reuse?

Evander · #5 10-01-2022

It was very weird, I didn't sell items on eBay for several years. And I decided to get rid of some low cost products I had at home. I didn't have an eBay UK account, so I registered, placed the 2 ads, auctions at 1.99. Within a week both listings were sold and paid for, I sent them off, put in the shipping tracking details and forgot about it.

Within days I received that message (maybe 2 or 3 weeks from account registration), and a few weeks later I received the payment from eBay/Ayden.

The only reused information I put was my name, DOB and ID. The phone number, address and bank account were new, I had never sold on eBay UK nor cashed in pounds, nor used that bank account.

I was banned, maybe 18 years ago, but this people never forget.

rsot · #6 10-01-2022

low cost products were branded?

Evander · #7 10-01-2022

I think so, it were two toys for kids, one was branded. But I didn't receive any warning of VERO or anything, just a few days after the end of the auction, BAN.

samspalace · #8 10-01-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

Hi guys,

I was thinking about going back to eBay and I see that a lot has changed with MP, I'm throwing some questions to you:

Does the Wise vcc's for eBay still works?, I tried to enter one and I get an error that the address doesn't match. I'm sure that Revolut vcc's doesn't work, any suggestion of VCCs for paying fees?.

If I pay eBay fees from my bank account, will they see my real name and ban me? I know that mismatch for receiving is fine but for paying the fees?

I was thinking of opening a LTD company with Tide but I have read horror stories on trustpilot, my other option would be to register it with another registrar and add Revolut Business.

is a business account better than a personal account for stealth accounts?

Thank you

Revolut works perfectly for paying fees and printing postage labels off through PayPal check out as a guest to get funds quicker.

No they won’t see your name when paying fees. When you make a sale through eBay the fees are automatically deducting from your sale. If you list a buy it now and it doesn’t sell then it’s 0.35 I pay using revolut. But my item sells anyway I just pay if it says negative 35p

I was thinking of opening a LTD company with Tide but I have read horror stories on trustpilot, my other option would be to register it with another registrar and add Revolut Business.

is a business account better than a personal account for stealth accounts?

I prefer personal accounts because you don’t have to worry about a seller dashboard late delivery rate etc or cancelling an order if you need to. It’s just an easier life for me.

rsot · #9 10-02-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

I think so, it were two toys for kids, one was branded. But I didn't receive any warning of VERO or anything, just a few days after the end of the auction, BAN.

Could be the brand name e.g. Lego...if used

Evander · #10 10-02-2022

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Originally Posted by rsot

Could be the brand name e.g. Lego...if used

Could be, I never thought about that but today I made a new account un UK, and got banned in 30 minutes after the first advert.

I use IPBurger residential proxies, a multilogin browser, a real data of a friend, new account, I put an advert of a non brand cheap item, I didn't add the bank account first, I selected I will add later.

And after 30 minutes, I receive the email "permanently suspended because of activity that we believe was putting the eBay community at risk".

Any idea of what I'm doing wrong? it's very frustrating.

The only weird thing was the phone number (burner phone number textme), all the other set up was premium (IPBurger, multilogin).

samspalace · #11 10-02-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

Could be, I never thought about that but today I made a new account un UK, and got banned in 30 minutes after the first advert.

I use IPBurger residential proxies, a multilogin browser, a real data of a friend, new account, I put an advert of a non brand cheap item, I didn't add the bank account first, I selected I will add later.

And after 30 minutes, I receive the email "permanently suspended because of activity that we believe was putting the eBay community at risk".

Any idea of what I'm doing wrong? it's very frustrating.

The only weird thing was the phone number (burner phone number textme), all the other set up was premium (IPBurger, multilogin).

What was the phone number you used? How much did you list the cheap item for?

Evander · #12 10-02-2022

It was an UK "textme" phone number (virtual). I listed the item for 1.99 pounds.

samspalace · #13 10-02-2022

Your better off creating an account with a 99p SIM card and free phone number on the back.

Also the item you listed was too cheap. I would list an item £30+ with paid shipping as well.

Evander · #14 10-03-2022

Yes, the virtual phone number can be a problem. I Will use a prepaid SIM card next time.

rsot · #15 10-03-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

Yes, the virtual phone number can be a problem. I Will use a prepaid SIM card next time.

samspalace is right - if your account has too many random "issues" e.g. cheap listing, virtual phone number, etc - the security flags can add up leading to a quick ban

Evander · #16 10-03-2022

Thanks for your help guys, these days I will try again with a regular SIM card + a 30 pounds item. I'll share my progress.

angryatebay · #17 10-03-2022

Maybe there is something new going on at ebay? Sounds a bit like what happened to me except for the fact I was never banned before, I got a 30 days restriction on my account which I waited out, when the restriction was lifted I decided to open a new account not to risk suspension, listed one unbranded no risk item and ironically I got suspended permanently with no appeal and for no reason, waited a few days, opened a new account and listed 1 item and the new account was banned in 30 minutes.... seems weird and it seems more people than usual is having trouble this days, judging by the amount of new posts with similar issues.

**SaiJin** · #18 10-03-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

It was an UK "textme" phone number (virtual). I listed the item for 1.99 pounds.

YOu can't use a textme or voip ... textme is known for the longest time to be problematic.

samspalace · #19 10-03-2022

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Originally Posted by angryatebay

Maybe there is something new going on at ebay? Sounds a bit like what happened to me except for the fact I was never banned before, I got a 30 days restriction on my account which I waited out, when the restriction was lifted I decided to open a new account not to risk suspension, listed one unbranded no risk item and ironically I got suspended permanently with no appeal and for no reason, waited a few days, opened a new account and listed 1 item and the new account was banned in 30 minutes.... seems weird and it seems more people than usual is having trouble this days, judging by the amount of new posts with similar issues.

A lot of newbies will have problems because the stealth guide is not up to date so it all comes down to trial and error.

Took me 16 accounts to finally get 1 account working right. Once you know how the bots and system works it’s very predictable and you can work around it. Just keep trying and you will conquer it.

Evander · #20 10-03-2022

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Originally Posted by SaiJin

YOu can't use a textme or voip ... textme is known for the longest time to be problematic.

I'm sure now that the problem were the voip numbers. I use websites that give you a temporary number for verification purposes, I understand now why my accounts were banned at the moment of start selling despite of using good proxies.

I bought some SIM cards for testing purposes, I hope this time works.

Thanks again for all your advices.

samspalace · #21 10-03-2022

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Originally Posted by Evander

I'm sure now that the problem were the voip numbers. I use websites that give you a temporary number for verification purposes, I understand now why my accounts were banned at the moment of start selling despite of using good proxies.

I bought some SIM cards for testing purposes, I hope this time works.

Thanks again for all your advices.

We’re here to help let us know how you get on

Nimble · #22 10-04-2022

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Originally Posted by samspalace

A lot of newbies will have problems because the stealth guide is not up to date so it all comes down to trial and error.

Took me 16 accounts to finally get 1 account working right. Once you know how the bots and system works it’s very predictable and you can work around it. Just keep trying and you will conquer it.

So what would be your tips? Obviously if you are inclined to share?