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zamzam 08-29-2017 04:09 PM

Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Ok, so paypal are not releasing funds after 180 days on stealth account and have requested ID and proof of address. After sending in docs with the stealth account details they have failed them. Can anyone confirm if sending in genuine docs will resolve issue? Also can this cause further problems? Finally anyone else experienced this and managed to resolve? Would appreciate any advice...

bigboy 08-30-2017 06:39 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 868542)
Ok, so paypal are not releasing funds after 180 days on stealth account and have requested ID and proof of address. After sending in docs with the stealth account details they have failed them. Can anyone confirm if sending in genuine docs will resolve issue? Also can this cause further problems? Finally anyone else experienced this and managed to resolve? Would appreciate any advice...

why have they done this?

are they now verifying the documents through databases....?

James Brown 08-31-2017 07:49 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by bigboy (Post 868729)
why have they done this?

are they now verifying the documents through databases....?

Well, clearly they (paypal uk) are now verifying docs on accounts that have been limited to ensure id is genuine before releasing money after 180 days. I found this out the hard way earlier this year before finally getting my money released.

Only genuine docs with name and address matching those shown in the paypal account will be accepted. Don't forget you can easily change the address in the paypal account. You can also, I believe, change the name if id docs are supplied.

I suppose it all depends how much money they are holding, if a substantial amount then maybe someone will be brave enough attempt to change the account name and address to match their own genuine id and risk the *h*t storm that could result....

bigboy 08-31-2017 08:46 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 868816)
Well, clearly they (paypal uk) are now verifying docs on accounts that have been limited to ensure id is genuine before releasing money after 180 days. I found this out the hard way earlier this year before finally getting my money released.

Only genuine docs with name and address matching those shown in the paypal account will be accepted. Don't forget you can easily change the address in the paypal account. You can also, I believe, change the name if id docs are supplied.

I suppose it all depends how much money they are holding, if a substantial amount then maybe someone will be brave enough attempt to change the account name and address to match their own genuine id and risk the *h*t storm that could result....

isnt this a game changer then?

opaqueninja 08-31-2017 03:18 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
I sent my genuine docs in to get a release years ago when I was new this, got limited on a stealth account and they woulnd't accept the already accepted docs at 180 days.

Sent along with a solicitors letter (£150), money was released in literally twenty five minutes.

zamzam 08-31-2017 03:57 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 868921)
I sent my genuine docs in to get a release years ago when I was new this, got limited on a stealth account and they woulnd't accept the already accepted docs at 180 days.

Sent along with a solicitors letter (£150), money was released in literally twenty five minutes.

Thanks for the reply, what did the letter state? It's a fair amount of money and need to get this resolved. Would you still recommend doing this now?

opaqueninja 09-01-2017 08:23 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 868923)
Thanks for the reply, what did the letter state? It's a fair amount of money and need to get this resolved. Would you still recommend doing this now?

Letter stated what it needed to - Im not going to give you that information as it cost me 150quid!

I would recommend you doing that if the value outweighs a solicitors letter definitely, why wouldn't you?

You also have no option from what I have gathered from your posts - either let them steal your money or do this method. Then the only other option, albeit a LONG drawnout process is the Financial Ombudsman, which are poor at the best of time.

James Brown 09-01-2017 12:22 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
I understand your reluctance to disclose details of exactly what the letter said, but your cryptic post doesn't help the op much Lol. Can you be a little bit more forthcoming?

opaqueninja 09-01-2017 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 869058)
I understand your reluctance to disclose details of exactly what the letter said, but your cryptic post doesn't help the op much Lol. Can you be a little bit more forthcoming?

Go and see a Solicitor.

I cant make it anymore clearer.

Are you asking me to pay for it and hold your hand and come with you?

propofol 09-02-2017 01:05 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 868921)
I sent my genuine docs in to get a release years ago when I was new this, got limited on a stealth account and they woulnd't accept the already accepted docs at 180 days.

Sent along with a solicitors letter (£150), money was released in literally twenty five minutes.



Could you just enlight your words for me :

- You had a stealth account, then limited
They asked for docs
You tried «*stealth*» docs matching the name and they got refused

- then you sent YOUR genuine (and then with a different name..?) docs as well as a solicitor letter and they released the funds ?

opaqueninja 09-03-2017 02:56 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by propofol (Post 869229)
Could you just enlight your words for me :

- You had a stealth account, then limited
They asked for docs
You tried «*stealth*» docs matching the name and they got refused

- then you sent YOUR genuine (and then with a different name..?) docs as well as a solicitor letter and they released the funds ?

Yes. Variables obviously within that, but thats the general summary.

bigboy 09-03-2017 09:10 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zamzam (Post 868542)
Ok, so paypal are not releasing funds after 180 days on stealth account and have requested ID and proof of address. After sending in docs with the stealth account details they have failed them. Can anyone confirm if sending in genuine docs will resolve issue? Also can this cause further problems? Finally anyone else experienced this and managed to resolve? Would appreciate any advice...

how much is in the account? that might give us some idea why they are starting to do this even after 180 days.

propofol 09-04-2017 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 869384)
Yes. Variables obviously within that, but thats the general summary.



It’s very interesting.
You have balls Sir.
But it’s interesting to remember ..
Maybe worth the try.

James Brown 09-04-2017 11:05 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 869061)
Go and see a Solicitor.

I cant make it anymore clearer.

Are you asking me to pay for it and hold your hand and come with you?

No sir, I don't need you to hold my hand nor anything else. I worked out how to get my money released all on my own and I didn't need to pay a solicitor to write me a letter either :d

opaqueninja 09-04-2017 04:37 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by James Brown (Post 869566)
No sir, I don't need you to hold my hand nor anything else. I worked out how to get my money released all on my own and I didn't need to pay a solicitor to write me a letter either :d

Proof or it didn't happen.

propofol 09-05-2017 02:31 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Maybe those cryptics post could help us if they were shared, even by PM? Thanks by advance guys !

James Brown 09-05-2017 03:45 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 869601)
Proof or it didn't happen.

Exactly what I'm thinking about your mysterious solicitors letter Lol.

propofol 09-06-2017 03:23 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Very strange story

oompaloompa 09-06-2017 04:00 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by opaqueninja (Post 869601)
Proof or it didn't happen.

so you are asking for proof/details, when you would not say what were the points were made in the solicitors letter, because you paid a HUGE £150 for it.....would do you no harm to mention the legal points made....

I reckon a legal letter could work, maybe for a business account, eg. business name and business address, and worth it for a high balance at stake..

few wrong points here though, re being able to actually change the address and particularly the name on account once limited, no I doubt it...

this game changer has been reported on and off for a while now....it is a definite thing that is happening for UK.....

opaqueninja 09-06-2017 04:23 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
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Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 870001)
so you are asking for proof/details, when you would not say what were the points were made in the solicitors letter, because you paid a HUGE £150 for it.....would do you no harm to mention the legal points made....

I reckon a legal letter could work, maybe for a business account, eg. business name and business address, and worth it for a high balance at stake..

few wrong points here though, re being able to actually change the address and particularly the name on account once limited, no I doubt it...

this game changer has been reported on and off for a while now....it is a definite thing that is happening for UK.....

You don't get anything for free in life Ooompa apart from death.

James Brown 09-07-2017 03:54 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 870001)
so you are asking for proof/details, when you would not say what were the points were made in the solicitors letter, because you paid a HUGE £150 for it.....would do you no harm to mention the legal points made....

I reckon a legal letter could work, maybe for a business account, eg. business name and business address, and worth it for a high balance at stake..

few wrong points here though, re being able to actually change the address and particularly the name on account once limited, no I doubt it...

this game changer has been reported on and off for a while now....it is a definite thing that is happening for UK.....

I can confirm it was possible to change the address on a limited private paypal account because I did it earlier this year during the process of getting my money released. I doubt they could stop this as some people obviously move house whilst their accounts are limited. I assume you can also still change account name on a limited account if docs are provided to prove the name change - but I never needed to do that so cannot say for certain if possible or not on a limited account.

All this talk about the top secret solicitors letter is getting tedious now. I assume he is talking about having a solicitor draw up a deed poll so he could use his real id docs to release money. Search google for deed poll uk there is lots of info at the gov.uk website on this subject. Maybe he used a different method entirely or maybe it never happened at all though....

oompaloompa 09-07-2017 04:01 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
^^^ok, I suppose address is possible but for name was it docs for a slight change, or a deed poll for full change you mean?

Yes I was thinking the same, but deed poll is a pretty big step, would need to be 5 figure sum to even consider doing it....and I doubt these sums we are are discussing are any way near that...

James Brown 09-07-2017 09:56 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 870064)
^^^ok, I suppose address is possible but for name was it docs for a slight change, or a deed poll for full change you mean?

Yes I was thinking the same, but deed poll is a pretty big step, would need to be 5 figure sum to even consider doing it....and I doubt these sums we are are discussing are any way near that...

As stated I never needed to change name on my limited account, so cannot say what docs paypal request for name change. I was lucky in having a common first and last name - which matched bank account used - so only pp address needed changing to match the temporary mailing address used for bank statement. The bank statement and birth certificate enabled money to be released. It took awhile to arrange all the details but worth the wait Lol.

I was only guessing he was referring to a deed poll from his solicitor. As you say that may be way too much hassle unless a substantial sum was involved.

Morpheus 09-27-2017 01:31 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
Im a little late to the party on this one, but had a read through the thread, interesting stuff! I have sent genuine docs in myself on a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account to get monies released, but this was years ago, PayPal was very different back then..thankfully havent had to for a while touch wood

saadra 02-21-2019 05:05 PM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
This also happened to me, sent in docs, paypal wouldn't release funds. Kept calling for a few weeks until I got someone who assisted me with adding a bank account and then withdrawing the funds.

Had around 5 accounts, and all requesting ID. Got away with not sending ID for 1 account (they already had from money laundering limit) but I still have 1 account with a couple hundred quid and haven't been able to withdraw.

Will probably try again when i'm bored

Recently, I've just been refunding the largest orders which usually amount to more than what's in paypal and asking the buyer to resend payment to me - this will depend on what you sell, it may be more likely they will just ignore you and keep the refund

Sebecaa 02-23-2019 01:10 AM

Re: Sending in genuine docs on stealth account
 
I have same situation can someone help??? Paypal wants from me to send in a photocopy of my identity countersigned by a solicitor... account is stealth. Should i try send original documents with different name and address????

rsot 10-23-2023 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by T85 (Post 1228129)
thank you for all the replies !!!

last post was 2019 - wouldnt recommend unearthing these kind of posts


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