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Lifting 1900 limit
 

Hey Guys

Well i just have a new pp account about a week or so now and i have confirmed a bank account and everything else. I have not used the account yet and im trying to lift this £1900 limit before i start to sell anything with the account so i dont have a headache later.

They have asked for my personal details, phone number, dob, name and then i click confirm and it waits 30 seconds and then comes back wheather it was confirmed or not.

My was not so now it asks me for documents. I signed out and then back in and it doesnt ask me for documents anymore, strange.

I phoned them up and got through to limitation guy and he said there is a warning on my account but i have done everything i need to do and that my account is ok so i can go ahead and start using it. I asked him how long will it be untill this is sorted and he said about a week because there is a back log.

If i have to send in 2 documents can i send in my passport that has already been sent in for another pp account and is closed ? Will they link that ? Do they even check the documents now ? I can remember reading that they dont even check documents so i used to always ps stuff and it used to get through if i ever had a problem.

Another point to make is that my passport isnt even in my current address if they do check it, would that just kill the account do you think ? On the pp account i have my name down as Khris but on my passport is Chris do you think they could pull me up on that ? Maybe i should start ps up and change the C to a K to keep them happy if they ask for my passport.

Any thoughts are advice are all welcome

Chris

NO, this is a big LINK that (if discovered) is your doom for the account. Oh, they check...they have a lot of staff for that when we are talking about big $....

Passport not being in current address is not such a big deal but if you have used it with a banned account, it's too dangerous to use in my opinion.

... just a quick thought....

maybe they take the actual passort / driver license number and put that on their database not just the name and addy.

Just a passing thought and I can not confirm this.

Love your 'longevity'... thats hardcore man!

I am not certain but PP are either 'randomly' selecting accounts for this type of verificatiom in the UK or if you enter the info incorrectly then they go to ID verification instead.

:doh::rant:

They check the documents, yes!

What if PP keeps a record of the passport number from all the submitted passports. This would mean that you cannot use your 'real' passport again.

It would make a lot of sense if they did, because their wouldn't really be point doing and ID check otherwise. Two different names.

Here is a tip for you, you can call PP or submit a change of name, they allow it if you made a 'mistake' when opening your PayPal account.

Although it would make more sense to 'create' the 'C' on the passport to a 'K'. ;)

How can you use your real passport name if that is suspended. You can't. So change it.

:peace:

I cant see how you can get away with sending in your passport if you have already done this for a suspended account then. All they need to do is type the passport number into a computer and see if it comes up on any suspended account and then your screwed.

Lucky enough my passport needs renewed in a few months time and also my driving lic.

Yea i was here from the very beginning :D

Well, that scenario only applies if they do log passport numbers, I have know evidence that this is procedure at PP in the UK :noidea:

You shouldn't rely on having to have your passport renewed to be able to open a stealth PP account, that is not very efficient at all. :D

p.s. Yes your longevity is very inspiring, itz iz coolz manz! :thumb:

How many cards have you added to your paypal, how many phone numbers or how many addresses do you see in your paypal.


in the last couple of months i have been asked the same, ID on 1900 limit. the first time i removed my entropay card and it removed the limitation and request for ID (strange but true), then A couple of weeks i had it happen again. All the the items where confirmed with a green tick, anyway i was asked for id , i looked round my account for an anomalies and noticed that i had the same address added twice, i removed one logged out logged back in and the request for id was gone, really weired but I'm not complaining.

Haha, that is strange, I will keep an eye out for this. It must be to do with PP's automated system in the UK.

:peace:

Guys from my previous experience before finding this helpful forum is they do not log passport numbers as of yet ;)

But of course this is definatly going to link you to your old account. Go fresh with everything.

Nah, I don't personally think that they do log passport numbers...

...But if they don't log your passport number, why go fresh with a new one?

:peace:

Hi. Have you faxed in the same pass port number as to confirm they dont log.

Handy to know for obvious reasons. Thanks


was also wondering if they dont log as you mentioned how would it link and also then why go with fresh as its more effort?


If I was a business making a few bucks, I would log passport numbers and drivers numbers as standard really. They are pretty much unique and its an easy way for them to find freudsters - and as the seller is sending in the docs anyway, it only takes seconds to enter the numbers into database.

Therefor I am almost certain they log the numbers - I hope you say otherwise coz it makes life easier!

I dont think they log anything, im near sure they used to check the documents with a quick run over with there eyes to see if it all looks legit and then pass you on.

If they logged passport numbers and driving lic numbers why would they ask you to scan it through ? Do they really wana see what you look like lol

If they were keeping passport numbers etc i think they would just ask you for the numbers and then run it through a computer base or whatever but they dont ask for them.

Can anyone confirm what they do with the document after you have sent them in ? Im near sure one of pp's little soldiers told me they shred them.

The pp account is only a week and a few days old, it has 1 address and 1 bank account confirmed and 1 entro card on it, im actually waiting for them to take money outa my entro card so i can then confirm that with them aswell.

Im gonna give them a phone now and ask them a few questions about lifting the limit.

Don't understand this :confused:

Even if it is scanned, they could read the passport number and log it. It is a unique piece of information that they could use for if you sent the same passport in for another PP account.

I am not saying they do this, I am saying it is possible.

If you have ID such as a passport, if it is real, then it is a legal document that proves who you are.

Why does it have to have anything to do with PP wanting to know what you look like. It is for the purpose of knowing you are a real person and the person running the PP account.

They would need access to goverment databases for that and they don't.

What would stop them still taking a passport number down that has been used and just placing the passport number next to the account it was used to verify with.

So next time they received your ID or a different PP account, your limited account would pop up with the same passport number and they would link you.

They could possibly keep them on file, if banks can do this, then maybe PP can?! Or perhaps they have to destroy them, I do not know this either.

They will certainly not share them.

i think the simple answer is your passport and drivers license has a unique number has nothing to do with picture as we all change over time, and it is valid for 10 years minimun, unless you loose, renew, or you move home update your details, and that is enough time for them to keep you from ebay/paypal, if i am not mistaken your passport does not have your address on it

I can't read what you put to be honest.

If you are saying they won't keep your passport number because we can change our passport number, what does that even mean?

They keep other info such as phone numbers, names, addresses...so why can they not keep your passport number.

What has aging go to do with anything as well?

:peace:

when you apply for a passport your passport gets a number, no personal info is on there bar your name, it is only relevant to customs etc in out counrty, no matter how powerful paypal/ebay may be they will not share the info, when you apply for a new passport you get a new passport number making all that info new

You are completely missing my point.

Do PP keep your phone number? Your address? Your name? Your DOB? Answer...YES!

A passport number is more unique than them I just mentioned, it is unique to YOU only, yes you can get a new passport number but that is also unique to YOU only!!

People are not going to get a new passport everytime they get limited on PP to get a new passport number.

So if you get limited and try to open a new PP, are you going to use the same phone number? Same address? Same name? Same DOB? Answer...NO! So why use the same paspport number?

The theory is that when you give them your passport, they take the unique piece of information (passport number) and place it with your other account information. Then if you got suspended, opened a new PP account and sent in the same passport for ID. They would type in the passport number and BAM..up pops your old suspended account :yar:

Name me another single piece of your personal information they could do that with ^^?????? :noidea:

^^^I am not saying that PP do keep your passport number to link you to your other limited accounts, but it would be a god damn good idea! So what is stoping them.

:peace:

Your not going to change it that is why they ask for it, you can open up many bank accounts but how many times can you change your passport no. think about it!!!!

if they are logging passport no. and they then run them from the database to match to a name they will get you every time, i have sent my details in about 6-7 times the first 4-5 successful because it was a person verifying it by faxed details from then on the faxed details always linked me to a banned account it my real name and the only same detail i gave paypal was my passport number

Ahh so you are understanding what I am saying :thumb:

I thought you wasn't.

You made me write up a big post and you was on my side :doh:

:D

I was joking about them looking at your picture. Anyway 2nd pp account about 2 weeks old, confirmed bank account and passed the 1900 limit no problem. Did not have to put any more info into pp either so was good.

Ok, cool.

But what you said in your previous post still didn't make sense:

I must have missed the joke...I can see the 'lol'...just not the joke.

:peace:

Hi Guys,

I received this from paypal it clearly states they want photo clearly showing first last name, date of birth and date of expiry. I will send them my passport with ALL other details blacked out for security reasons. Paypal are not a bank they are a private company who are rich and greedy and have us all by the balls and they know it.

They track us via cookies, ip etc. They keep this information for god knows how long. There policies state they destroy all documents once used (this ill bet my life that is a pile of bull. I say this because there not based in UK but in Luxembourg.)

Anyway im ranting this is email:

Dear xxxx,

Thank you for responding to our requests to further verify your customer
information. As we cannot lift the EU-Receiving Limit on your PayPal
account until all requirements have been met, we would appreciate your help
with completing the steps below, so that we can review your account further.

> Update Business Info <
_________________________

• Please update the registered address of your business.

xxx xxxxx
xxx xxxx
xxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxxx
xxxx xxxx


Here’s how to update your Postal Address:

We’re introducing a new and improved Profile to some customers. Until all
customers are using the new Profile, there are 2 sets of instructions on
how to do this. Please follow the instructions that match what you see on
the site.


1. Go to www.paypal.co.uk and log in to your account.
2. Click ‘Profile’ near the top of the page.
3. Click ‘Postal Address’ under ‘Account Information’ and then click
‘Edit.’
4. Enter your address information and click ‘Save.’

Or

1. Go to www.paypal.co.uk and log in to your account.
2. Click ‘Profile’ near the top of the page.
3. Click 'Update' beside 'Address.'
4. Enter your address information and click ‘Save.'

Here’s how to add an address:

1. Go to www.paypal.co.uk and log in to your account.
2. Click ‘Profile’ near the top of the page.
3. Click ‘Postal Address’ under ‘Account Information,’ then click ‘Add
Address.’
4. Enter the new address and click ‘Save.’
5. If you have a credit card or a debit card on your PayPal account
associated with the new address, select it, then click ‘Save.’



> Proof of identity <
________________

PayPal is required to comply with the European Union anti-money laundering
and 'Know-Your-Customer' regulations. This regulation requires us to verify
your identity and address given to us. This sounds complicated, but it is
not!

All we need is a proof of identity.

What is a valid proof of identity?

We accept:
- Your driver's license (photo counterpart)
- Passport
- Other photo ID that was issued by a government body.

Please note that all the information below must be visible on the document:
- First and last name
- Date of birth
- Date of issue and/or expiry

Note: The document needs to be fully visible. Partial documents cannot be
accepted as a valid proof of identity.

You can easily upload the documents through the Resolution Centre in your
PayPal account, or fax it to 0044 (0) 8707-307-197.

Please note; if you fax the documents you must:
- Have a cover sheet
- On the cover sheet place the e-mail address registered on you PayPal
account
- On the cover sheet place the Case ID number


> Complete Name Change <
_____________________________


After reviewing your PayPal account, we noticed that you have registered
initials for your first name. Please note that at least one of your first
names as stated on your passport/driver’s licence needs to be registered in
full on your PayPal account. Therefore we ask you to complete a name
change. All we need is the following information/documentation:

• A photo ID showing your full name. (Not needed if previously provided)

• Please send us an email stating the reason for the name change request
and, also, indicating how your name should appear on your PayPal account:

1. Go to the PayPal website and log in to your account.
2. Click the "Contact Us" link.
3. Click "Send us" under Email us.
4. In the "Choose a Topic" box, select "My Account". In the "Choose a
Subtopic" box, select "Name Change".
5. Click "Continue".
6. Select the type of name change you would like to make and click
"Continue".
7. Follow the online instructions.



We will need you to update your business name as well from xxxxxx
to xxxxxxxxxx based on Companies House.

We will gladly help you to update the business name on your PayPal account.

Please follow the steps below:

1. Log in to your PayPal account
2. Click ‘Profile’ near the top of the page.
3. Select ‘Business Information’ in the Account Information column.
4. Click the ‘Change name’ link (next to Business Contact Name).
5. Select ‘Business Name Change (business name)’.
6. Enter your new business name and click Continue. The name of your
business will be changed instantly.

Note:
The name on your bank account(s) will still appear in your old business’
name, so it may be necessary for you to remove your bank account and then
re-add it to your PayPal account. By doing this, the name listed on your
bank account will be automatically updated with your new business name.

If the name on the bank account(s) is not consistent with the information
on file at your bank and you attempt to make a withdrawal from your PayPal
account, the transaction may fail. The funds may then be returned to your
PayPal account.

If your bank account is in your personal name, you should downgrade your
PayPal account from a Business account to a Premier account. The only
distinction is that Business accounts allow you to conduct transactions
under a company or business name, whereas Premier accounts use your
individual name on transactions.

We appreciate your patience and understanding regarding this matter and
regret any inconvenience it may cause you.

Sincerely,
Daniel
Compliance Department
PayPal, an eBay Company

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So like I said i will send them Phone bill for correct address and passport for ID as no address is on it. With passport number and other secure details blacked out. As for the phone bill they legally cant check it or they would break data protection laws. So again ill have the secure details blocked out. I also wonder if the passport office would be able to tell you what they are legally allowed to view on the passport, and what they can really get from the government :-) Maybe we should call them first.

@Irishman, you sound like a man on a mission :thumb:

Make sure you post back your findings if you do call or send it in blanked out, would be good info to know.

you can blank out passport number so stop going on about it, I have been told this on phone and submitted blacked and not blacked and it was passed............