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Algorithm 01-27-2021 02:30 PM

How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Please forgive me if this is already been answered I couldn’t find a response anywhere. US eBay has given me till February 1 to provide A Social Security or tax id number.
What are Stealth account holders to do?
This is a very lightly used account, less than $1000 in sales per month, But that doesn’t seem to prevent eBay’s managed payment system from still requiring an SS number or tax ID number.
Certainly a random number would not match the Stealth account holder’s name so please please advise thank you so so much in advance!

bytor3k 01-27-2021 04:41 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Algorithm (Post 1138843)
What are Stealth account holders to do?

Go "legit" and provide your valid SSN or stay "stealth".

ScottieBoi 01-27-2021 06:01 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytor3k (Post 1138866)
Go "legit" and provide your valid SSN or stay "stealth".

What does this mean? Please elaborate, because I have this same problem

HurricaneHuntr 01-27-2021 06:03 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
some accounts are getting quicker invites than others, if you can't provide the data, abandon the account and make another.

Algorithm 01-27-2021 07:31 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Once again please forgive me if I misunderstand. I thought the whole purpose of this forum was to help people who have gotten jammed up unfairly whether it be with eBay or PayPal.

Everybody who has a Stealth account has it under a name other than their own, right? The whole purpose of getting a Stealth account was because they cannot get back on “legit“ as their account was suspended.

I’m sure I’m missing something here because certainly a member of your standing wouldn’t be suggesting to throw out everything that we’ve been discussing here and that I’ve paid a lot of money for.’What exactly do you mean by “legit”, As it specifically applies to an eBay account that is not in a person’s legal name and that there is no associated US Social Security number or tax ID attached to it?
(Please I cannot stress enough how appreciative I am and I am legitimately losing sleep over this)
One might have a working paypal account (without PayPal’s debit card so no SS is required), That is linked to a bank in his/her real name.

Revenue generated on this account on eBay may flow rather nicely into PayPal at which time it can be withdrawn to the associated Bank either in three days for free or to the banks link debit card instantly for 1%.
eBay cannot legally dig up the specific name of the bank account is attached to, the most they can do is a couple of test deposits and withdrawals that one can verify rather easily.

This all boils down to eBay wanting to know their customer a little too much. So please what is the best way, or only way one can continue with this Stealth account?

It’s been suggested to put in random numbers, however wouldn’t that put the eBay account holder in extreme Jeopardy for identity theft if that number does belong to someone and very easily can be verified that it doesn’t belong to the name on the eBay account? Thanking you very much in advance.


PS: I tried answering a very nice fellow who answered me right away however apparently I don’t have enough points accumulated to respond.

bytor3k 01-27-2021 08:42 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
FACT: eBay REQUIRES a SSN number to register for MP.

Option 1: Convert the account to your real information and pray

Option 2: Form an LLC which is still going to require YOUR SSN and pray

Option 3: Cannot be discussed due to the morality police that patrol the forum, but you seem smart enough to figure it out.

HurricaneHuntr 01-27-2021 10:05 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytor3k (Post 1138894)
FACT: eBay REQUIRES a SSN number to register for MP.

Option 1: Convert the account to your real information and pray

Option 2: Form an LLC which is still going to require YOUR SSN and pray

Option 3: Cannot be discussed due to the morality police that patrol the forum, but you seem smart enough to figure it out.

This here is all you need to know.

#3 will never be discussed here. I doubt aspkin wants shut down.



However, doesn't mean it's the end of stealth for the immediate future. I don't expect it to be a problem for new accounts for quite some time.

Matce 01-28-2021 02:53 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Option 4: Ditch the account that got the MP request and open a new one. It takes all but 15minutes to get signed up for ebay/paypal.

I guess ebay will see a huge spike in account creation soon lol and lots of unpaid bills for accounts that they want to switch to MP.

agent006140 01-28-2021 06:49 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Algorithm (Post 1138843)
Please forgive me if this is already been answered I couldn’t find a response anywhere. US eBay has given me till February 1 to provide A Social Security or tax id number.
What are Stealth account holders to do?
This is a very lightly used account, less than $1000 in sales per month, But that doesn’t seem to prevent eBay’s managed payment system from still requiring an SS number or tax ID number.
Certainly a random number would not match the Stealth account holder’s name so please please advise thank you so so much in advance!

Prior to MP,Ebay never bother to ask for our SSN as Paypal took care of that.
Ebay may not know what is your SSN,so if you open a new account using your name and SSN,and ditch this one,may be it would work,try to make your address different.

eDay 01-29-2021 05:00 AM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matce (Post 1139046)
Option 4: Ditch the account that got the MP request and open a new one. It takes all but 15minutes to get signed up for ebay/paypal.

I guess ebay will see a huge spike in account creation soon lol and lots of unpaid bills for accounts that they want to switch to MP.

I have read there are some who have opened new accounts and are still required to register with MP, how can a new account be helpful in the short term?

rsot 01-29-2021 07:02 AM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

https://youtu.be/TLcuTISVs3s

tiredguy 02-04-2021 01:57 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Algorithm (Post 1138889)
Once again please forgive me if I misunderstand. I thought the whole purpose of this forum was to help people who have gotten jammed up unfairly whether it be with eBay or PayPal.

Everybody who has a Stealth account has it under a name other than their own, right? The whole purpose of getting a Stealth account was because they cannot get back on “legit“ as their account was suspended.

I’m sure I’m missing something here because certainly a member of your standing wouldn’t be suggesting to throw out everything that we’ve been discussing here and that I’ve paid a lot of money for.’What exactly do you mean by “legit”, As it specifically applies to an eBay account that is not in a person’s legal name and that there is no associated US Social Security number or tax ID attached to it?
(Please I cannot stress enough how appreciative I am and I am legitimately losing sleep over this)
One might have a working paypal account (without PayPal’s debit card so no SS is required), That is linked to a bank in his/her real name.

Revenue generated on this account on eBay may flow rather nicely into PayPal at which time it can be withdrawn to the associated Bank either in three days for free or to the banks link debit card instantly for 1%.
eBay cannot legally dig up the specific name of the bank account is attached to, the most they can do is a couple of test deposits and withdrawals that one can verify rather easily.

This all boils down to eBay wanting to know their customer a little too much. So please what is the best way, or only way one can continue with this Stealth account?

It’s been suggested to put in random numbers, however wouldn’t that put the eBay account holder in extreme Jeopardy for identity theft if that number does belong to someone and very easily can be verified that it doesn’t belong to the name on the eBay account? Thanking you very much in advance.


PS: I tried answering a very nice fellow who answered me right away however apparently I don’t have enough points accumulated to respond.

People on here dont give out their tricks regardless if it's amazon or ebay.

ditching the account comment is stupid.

you have 2 options..however, they're in the process of being tested.

1. you change info and provide them with a new name and ssn.. yours or someone elses. darkweb will do that for you.

2. this is the option i'm taking.. I'm switching from US to UK .... however once I changed the registered country, the manage payment stop asking for it and it keeps looping to (learn more).. deadline ended..so cannot list or revise. I contacted ebay and by tomorrow i can let you know how it goes.. but i received this

"I have looked into this for you and can advise that you will need to change your registration site to UK. Once that is done we can then look to get you registered for managed Payments and get the block removed.



To change your registration site I will need to speak to you so if you reply to this email with a time to call you tomorrow we can get the ball rolling on this. "
So even though I changed my registration in ebay and my profile says UK. they still see it as a US account.. so when i contact them tomorrow, i'll know more about what they require and will let you know.

but you'll need to provide them with a UK bank account. however, I did ask them if I could place a UK bank into a US account and vise versa but they didn't know.. I'll run it by them again tomorrow.

Finally, they stated that if they can't verify your ssn, then you'll need to provide them with a passport.. This is doable and I was going to go this route, but I didn't know if I could place a UK bank..

hope the helps

LEARNINGONLY 02-07-2021 03:16 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bytor3k (Post 1138894)
FACT: eBay REQUIRES a SSN number to register for MP.

Option 1: Convert the account to your real information and pray

Option 2: Form an LLC which is still going to require YOUR SSN and pray

Option 3: Cannot be discussed due to the morality police that patrol the forum, but you seem smart enough to figure it out.

Can option 3 be done if the bank has our name on it?

bytor3k 02-07-2021 05:45 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Been working for me since November, don't know for how much longer though...

tiredguy 02-09-2021 02:29 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
update: Transferred current US ebay account to UK. They removed block , i didn't provide them with anything and I can list items with paypal checkout... no prompt for manage payment...

vigilantex69 02-09-2021 04:00 PM

Re: How to avoid giving ebay my s.s. number
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LEARNINGONLY (Post 1140743)
Can option 3 be done if the bank has our name on it?

Option 3 is identity theft. Just don’t do it.

In 2021 you’ll wind up in federal prison for using someone’s SS number and making a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account. Just don’t do it. That stuff is tracked like crazy now and no matter what you think you can do with IP addresses and stuff, there’s no way to get around it with managed payments.

There’s nothing worth selling on eBay that is worth the eventual risk of that.


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