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one person told me his stealth accounts are working as normal without the need to apply for eBay managed payments. Why is this possible well first of all we first sign up in other country and making the account fully verified then we change the item location by adding a dispatch address in the UK or USA. Now you don't need to worry about the eBay managed payments because we are using the system from the other country.Your customers will have no way of knowing this as the item always shows its located in the same country as yourself.

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That's a well discussed temporary workaround but isn't ideal for account creation for many.

Let's not forget it's only temporary, eventually all seller accounts new and old, will be MP, without exception.

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Many new accounts are managed payments as well. I made 2 that are managed payments in fact today while trying to get old paypals. I have yet to have ebay ask for an ID or bank statement for the MP I've made. So far so good i guess. knock on wood!

Soon once they stop all new account creations with Paypal, all accounts even stealth will have to be MP. The good news, the trick to make them work is the same thing the etsy "stealth" are using :) You just add a bank and you're off

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eventually all seller accounts new and old in USA but not in other country's.

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Wrong. ALL ebay seller accounts.

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there is no ssn numbers and other staff in other country's

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so they cant see name on bank on MP? you just add a bank and you are good?
they ask last 4 digits and date

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in my experiences lately yes.

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that's crazy. can you use bank that you used on some PayPal?

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Whatever..... :lol:

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MP in other countries don't rely on SSN. Canadian and UK accounts of mine getting hit up

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same here man

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what is your return shipping address?as registere with Ebay?

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Some countries may never use MP,thats what Ebay/MP said.It may have something t o do with transferring fund to the local bank

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Got a link because I've never seen one nor has any excluded countries been discussed here.

Given their operational agreement with Paypal has expired I wonder what those counties you claim wont go onto MP will do then?

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exactly that's what Im saying some of them don't use MP and the key is to know which ones. Read ebay policy is say Most of our accounts not all go to MP.

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Right...
And how exactly do you enroll in MP in the US without providing the SSN friend? What am I missing in your story?

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I think what he is saying he just type any last 4 digits of ssn and date of birth and any bank account and they don't chek sometimes it works maybe? thats only for accounts that start with MP.

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On etsy we have been able to use the same account more than once has anyone been able to use it for ebay on MP?

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Sorry but thats nonsense.
They VERIFY the SSN and DOB. On ALL accounts that enroll in MP. Its an automated system.
No way around that (other than some workaround involving business accts and EINs/LLCs - which I highly doubt hes providing).
So again the question is - how does he get his accts enrolled in MP without that particular information?

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I’d also be interested to hear confirmation from Moscutter that all the information entered is random and not somebody’s ssn.

Its all fine and dandy to use a DBA (doing business as) for a stealth account, thats completely legit. But stealing somebody’s ssn is completely unacceptable.

Usually I’d give the poster the benefit of the doubt. But this isn’t the first warning he has received regarding this

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No they don't. My 100% stealth MP account has been enrolled since 11/2020 and has had 2377 transactions and over $50k pumped through it and is still going strong.

100% stealth means ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address, ⊗⊗⊗⊗ dob, and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ssn

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He is crazy maybe?
can system see that bank account is on different name or cant see like with paypal?

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Depends on which verification process you use, which has been discussed ad nauseam on other threads.

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You mean fa*ke everything you use and it still goes through? Wouldn't everyone do that if that just worked? It can't be this simple.

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I enrolled 1 stealth account on MP and left the stealth info as it was and just made up the SSN last 4. I sold an item and got payout. I know at some point I will have a problem because ebay will ask for the full SSN and I assume they will verify. I just wanted to test it out and it worked

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come end of 2021,Ebay/AYDEN will need a valid SSN t o give you a 1099K.
IF THAT ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN is a valid number,that poor guy will hear from IRS why he did not declare his Ebay income in his tax return.

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No he won't, he will never here from the IRS because the IRS requires that the SSN, name, and DOB all match to form an identity. How do you think all the illegals in the US get away with using other people's SSNs? Also dead people can't complain.

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Which country did you sign up at? And don't you need a residential ip in that country in order for it to work since data center IP's don't work for creation?

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Any problems so far?

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Not so far its been a little over a month I am going to list more stuff and see what happens. Nothing crazy I am very conservative and spread my sales.

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Any nee updates?

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Any updates? Are you using an Individual or Business acct? I wonder if switching to Business and using an EIN will prevent them from asking for your full SSN, since a 1099 can be issued to an EIN.

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I have both individual and business. With EIN ebay still wants SSN

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With an EIN (biz account) did they ask for the full SSN or only the last-4?

I seriously hope there's a workaround for those who can't use their SSN or want more than one account. Ebay must have LOVED coming up with this little spin, to keep st**lth accounts away.:help:

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Eh, that wasn't their goal. Moving to their own payment system increases their control and most importantly their profits. Staying with PayPal in the past was only tolerated because it made sense at the time..

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Aye, but it certainly worked out in their favor. Here's hoping we can find a workaround and not need to use our SSN. Some of us cant :)

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READ THE THREADS.....Most sayin xxxx ss#, xxxx dob and bank account and you good so far...I open 10 accounts so far..I already got 2 with info and they good....play around with it..so far so good for me

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While playing with xxxx ssn# is illegal, ppl who don't have proper ssn will be experimenting with this to keep their usa accounts alive in all likelihood

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Thanks, guys. I appreciate the info. I hope it keeps working and that they (Ebay) either give up on requiring an SSN or DON'T pick up on that XXXX SS# workaround.

For those who've had this work, can you shoot us an update now and then? Curious to see how it pans out in the long-term.