Idiot buyers - Non paying buyers - Complaints - talk about your Bad Buyer experiences

CPUGEEK · #45 05-12-2007

So when did this happen?

whome · #46 05-13-2007

Signed up for another one yesterday and immediately posted a couple of listings. Took almost a full day but got suspended again. Message was a bit different than the first one a few days ago (being linked to my previously suspended account). Here is what I received today:

***DearXXX

Your eBay account has been suspended. eBay took this action after determining that your account was acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies.

You are prohibited from using eBay in any way. This includes using another existing account or registering a new account.

Any seller fees that are still owed are due to eBay immediately. eBay will charge any amounts that you have not previously disputed to the billing method that is currently on file.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety***

So what does this mean? Did I try to list too soon? No bids had even closed. Should I bid on something first? Used all different stuff than before...pp credit card, dial up, the whole nine.

I'm getting real sick of this crap.

whome · #47 05-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Jonas

You haven't read the old threads.

Yeah, that's their abusing ebay or whatever they call it now. It hits like 90% of all accounts that sell when they're new and hits them at random.

Try making your first auction a test auction with like just test as its subject and content. I'm thinking that once ebay lets the account get past its first auction this crap is gone and I think listing a test auction is kind of ignored by its bot. There seems to be a point where once you hit it, the auto-suspend bot just ignores you and that first listing is the largest hurdle.

Just try and report back what happens.

Maybe b/c it's late but I'm not following you on the test as subject content...can you run that by me again? Are you saying just list anything???

CPUGEEK · #48 05-13-2007

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Originally Posted by whome

Signed up for another one yesterday and immediately posted a couple of listings. Took almost a full day but got suspended again. Message was a bit different than the first one a few days ago (being linked to my previously suspended account). Here is what I received today:

***DearXXX

Your eBay account has been suspended. eBay took this action after determining that your account was acting inconsistently with the letter or spirit of our policies.

You are prohibited from using eBay in any way. This includes using another existing account or registering a new account.

Any seller fees that are still owed are due to eBay immediately. eBay will charge any amounts that you have not previously disputed to the billing method that is currently on file.

Sincerely,

eBay Trust & Safety***

So what does this mean? Did I try to list too soon? No bids had even closed. Should I bid on something first? Used all different stuff than before...pp credit card, dial up, the whole nine.

I'm getting real sick of this crap.

You can't just register a new account and right off the bat sell the same thing again. You got to work yourself into the system. I keep telling everyone to act like a new seller/buyer. Read the help sections and forums and browse for a minute before you list. Ebay assigns you points based on your history. I fyou just make a account and list you have no points and you are going to get the bot..

I made 10 accounts and on 5 of them I started selling and I never got the bot and it is still going strong 2 weeks later except for 1 account

CPUGEEK · #49 05-13-2007

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Originally Posted by Jonas

What browsings of things does ebay check you on and how do you know it does this and it's not just doing something else instead?

From one test, the bot is stupid. You can put the same address and phone as a mega seller so ebay would link you to them and say "oh it's a previous nonsuspended seller making a new account" but nope it suspends anyway and doesn't touch the mega seller account.

UHHHm, that would make the bot smart wouldn't it???

JackNoMore · #50 05-18-2007

So how are you able to open up 10 new accounts one after the other and not have to provide credit cards? Even applying for gift cards would get old and expensive after a while. Using actual debit/credit cards would take a long time I would think as you have to wait for approval, shipping, etc. Is there a trick to not needing a credit card to sell? Even to just register? I'm curious how some of you do it.

CPUGEEK · #51 05-18-2007

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Originally Posted by Jack

So how are you able to open up 10 new accounts one after the other and not have to provide credit cards? Even applying for gift cards would get old and expensive after a while. Using actual debit/credit cards would take a long time I would think as you have to wait for approval, shipping, etc. Is there a trick to not needing a credit card to sell? Even to just register? I'm curious how some of you do it.

well ever now and then they dont ask for a credit card. I buy precards anyway to pay bills and all and I just make sure I leave .20 cent on the card to use it to register with ebay.

Precards aren't expensive. They only cost about $1 or so?

stepia · #52 05-18-2007

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Originally Posted by CPUGEEK

well ever now and then they dont ask for a credit card. I buy precards anyway to pay bills and all and I just make sure I leave .20 cent on the card to use it to register with ebay.

Precards aren't expensive. They only cost about $1 or so?

What is a precard? Is it a prepaid credit card such as simon? Which of them does cost only $1 and can you reload it so you could pay ebay fees with it?

JackNoMore · #53 05-18-2007

I'd like to know that too. Most of them require at least $20-25 to start, and I found one with a limit of $50,000 That's a gift card too! LOL 20 cents to register?? How did you get that?

CPUGEEK · #54 05-18-2007

I dont pay ebay fees with the same card.....I usually just buy another one and pay ebay fees..

But you buy giftcards anywhere.. Grocery stores, malls, etc... and they cost next to nothing.

Of course you have to pay the money you want on the card but so what, just register the card with ebay and spend the money on gas or something when you need it...

CPUGEEK · #55 05-19-2007

I have two videos i want to show everyone. 1 video is on a seller getting scammed and another one is a buyer who took a seller to Judge Judy show because she got scammed. She bought a picture of a next tell phone for I think $500..lol

But all you have to do is type ebay scams/or paypal scams on youtube....

YouTube - The truth about Paypal Reverse Scams JOIN THE FIGHT!

YouTube - eBay Scammer on Judge Judy

CPUGEEK · #56 05-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Modee

I wonder if the gift cards you buy wherever can be used to verify address on EBAY. The reason I use the simon ones is they allow you to input and address which the EBAY AVS system then accesses.

Also I thought that the EBAY system requires a full dollar to verify. I know YHOO requires one dollar.

I use gift cards from my local &-11 store and Walgreens and rite aid...I always use dummy address on ebay with them cards and never had a problem

JackNoMore · #57 05-19-2007

Aren't the cards registered to an address that you have to give them to activate though? I always thought that was how it worked.

CPUGEEK · #58 05-19-2007

man, you dont activate them cards.. You just buy and go. No address no thing. Just cash!!!

There is no address or name tied to the card

Jonas · #59 05-22-2007

That first one, the video blog, would take a few seconds to download as text and about a minute to read. But he makes it a video so it's an hour to download.

loOp · #60 05-25-2007

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Originally Posted by CPUGEEK

yeah it sucks. Paypal didnt even ask him to send the item back yet. He opened an item not as described and paypal is asking for my response regarding this. I want to beat this bad! He even laughed and taunted me on MSN messenger saying how he do this all the time and that he will win the paypal dispute. I found out his home address by his cell phone. I paid for a records search. I hate buyers like this. Im glad im not using paypal anymore. I have already been thinking that I'm going to wait tell he sell something and Im going to buy it and then do the same thing he did to me..What should I do.

if your able to Escalate the claim itll give you like 5 windows to select from and one of the selectable windows says

"Buyer has to return merchandise for a full refund"

which gives them 10 days to provide paypal a tracking number or they will just shut the claim down and you keep the money! You win.

ifreewillie · #61 05-25-2007

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Originally Posted by loOp

if your able to Escalate the claim itll give you like 5 windows to select from and one of the selectable windows says

"Buyer has to return merchandise for a full refund"

which gives them 10 days to provide paypal a tracking number or they will just shut the claim down and you keep the money! You win.

Uhhh, no loop, you newb.

They can send you an empty box and stick a tracking number on that, and they will get the refund and you'll end up with an empty box.

Always do a "disagree with claim", therefore you'll be able to fight back (which gives you a chance at winning), yet still capable of having the item returned to you if you lose.

Oh, and just incase you got jacked with the empty box scam, you'll need to contact PP right away and hopefully get it resolved.

loOp · #62 05-25-2007

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Originally Posted by ifreewillie

Uhhh, no loop, you newb.

They can send you an empty box and stick a tracking number on that, and they will get the refund and you'll end up with an empty box.

Always do a "disagree with claim", therefore you'll be able to fight back (which gives you a chance at winning), yet still capable of having the item returned to you if you lose.

Oh, and just incase you got jacked with the empty box scam, you'll need to contact PP right away and hopefully get it resolved.

well that is sad that you think that way you think like a scammer. I am guessing you would do that to someone? because I wouldn't have the heart to. And your calling me a noob? heh that was kind of dumb.

ifreewillie · #63 05-25-2007

I didn't say I would do that to anyone, but I've heard it happened. You're simply making assumptions. You're a newb because most of us here have been suspended multiple times and are experienced to handle it. While you try to talk like you know your stuff, but really doesn't know a thing. Also getting caught shill bidding proves you're a newb.

Jonas · #64 05-25-2007

I had a not as described dispute once. The buyer was able to give a long speech. I put in that I disputed the dispute. It would not let me put in my side at all. I then had to wait 2 weeks for paypal to do anything. After that paypal sided with the buyer without letting me communicate my side at all.

So basically paypal always likes to side with the buyer no matter what.

ifreewillie · #65 05-26-2007

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Originally Posted by Jonas

I had a not as described dispute once. The buyer was able to give a long speech. I put in that I disputed the dispute. It would not let me put in my side at all. I then had to wait 2 weeks for paypal to do anything. After that paypal sided with the buyer without letting me communicate my side at all.

So basically paypal always likes to side with the buyer no matter what.

Jonas, that's your bad. Before esclating a dispute to a claim, input your side of the story before doing so. Nowadays, they give you a chance to explain whatever the dispute is for if you choose to disagree witht he claim. A small 300 word limit box for each issue (i.e. if dispute is opened for internal damage, counterfeit, incorrect item then it will have 3 different boxes for each).

I've encounted quite a few Paypal disputes, and out of 4 not as described cases, I've won two of them, which is a pretty good odds 50/50.

Jonas · #66 05-26-2007

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Originally Posted by ifreewillie

Jonas, that's your bad. Before esclating a dispute to a claim, input your side of the story before doing so. Nowadays, they give you a chance to explain whatever the dispute is for if you choose to disagree witht he claim. A small 300 word limit box for each issue (i.e. if dispute is opened for internal damage, counterfeit, incorrect item then it will have 3 different boxes for each).

I've encounted quite a few Paypal disputes, and out of 4 not as described cases, I've won two of them, which is a pretty good odds 50/50.

Did you hear what I said, they had no box or anything for me to respond. It was just paypal listening purely to the buyer. Not only that, the buyer was able to add more any time they liked while I couldn't say anything. This was back in early 2006.