AOL proxy - does your WAN IP address change for EBAY purposes? Not necessarily - Page 2

doughboykilla · 08-11-2008, 08:44 PM

i use aol 9.0VR

and its free the one i use i dont have a aol account just a aol email thats it

doughboykilla · 08-11-2008, 08:49 PM

ok im posting from IE right now it should have my real ip

doughboykilla · 08-11-2008, 08:50 PM

Now im on aol 9.0VR the ip should say 64.12.116.77 which is the aol proxy

becca073 · 08-15-2008, 03:09 PM

I stick with AOL dial up cause I get the different IP address everytime. Too bad the other way doesn't still change your IP cause dial-up is soo slow. But I go with what is safest for me.

Exeneva · 08-16-2008, 12:57 AM

I've personally had bad experiences with AOL, especially broadband.

Modee · 08-16-2008, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doughboykilla

Now im on aol 9.0VR the ip should say 64.12.116.77 which is the aol proxy

Yes it does seem to be working for you.

becca073 · 08-18-2008, 05:55 PM

Okay this is very strange..I just went onto AOL dialup and checked my IP address. Its now giving me my regular IP address, no proxy? I just noticed this today. Yesterday I got a proxy.

NowWhat · 08-20-2008, 10:54 PM

Modee said: "Seems like it sometimes did not work in the first place. People were checking their IP address with What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more...
and the like, and thinking they were okay, when sometimes their ISP's WAN IP address was flowing through to EBAY and getting them busted."

So, is there any way for us to get a correct check on our IP, other than asking you what is coming through at your end?

Thanks, Modee

DogFacedBoy · 09-05-2008, 07:51 PM

Okay, posting this message via AOL Browser with sign in for an AOL account. It is possible to use the AOL browser without signing in. If you do this you WILL show the same IP address as you IE

DogFacedBoy · 09-05-2008, 07:57 PM

Now posting via IE.
Interesting when I switched from AOL to IE the cookie stayed and I was already signed in. It is always advisable to clear cookies when going from one account to the other even if switching browsers

Modee · 09-05-2008, 09:22 PM

IP on post #29 is 205.188.XXX.XX
On #30 71.158.XXX.XXX

So it would seem that proxy is WORKING for you. Can you let us know more about what exactly you are doing in each case? I mean the browser you are using has nothing much to do with it.

DogFacedBoy · 09-05-2008, 11:17 PM

Obviously I do nothing different when using IE. As for AOL I have an email account and have downloaded the AOL browser.
If I access the web using the Aol browser it does nothing to change the IP address. In order for it to work you have to actually sign in to AOL and I do so by checking my email by using the AOL icon on the top of the browser. This will then log you in using your AOL ID and password. You will then be accessing the web via the AOL proxy.
I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS verify my IP address through one of the site listed here in the forums to make sure that I am accessing everything through the AOL proxy and not my regular IP.

SheerGold · 10-15-2008, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DogFacedBoy

In order for it to work you have to actually sign in to AOL and I do so by checking my email by using the AOL icon on the top of the browser. This will then log you in using your AOL ID and password. You will then be accessing the web via the AOL proxy.

Hi DogFacedBoy,

Thank you for the advice.

But I don't see a AOL icon on the top of my browser.

Please advise how I obtain that icon.

BTW: I use an Apple Mac. So what works for a PC may not work for a Mac.

Thanks.

SheerGold · 10-15-2008, 12:13 PM

I did as is advised. Signed into my AOL account. I had cleared cookies, etc before doing so.

Yes, for sure I find I have a different IP address.

BUT, HERE'S THE CATCH!!

That IP address is MERELY a WEAK CLOAK of my real IP address.

Simply doing an IP reverse lookup I identified the location of that IP address as EXACTLY the same as my internet provider!!

Doing this repeatedly. i.e. logging out. deleting cookies, etc. logging in. repeating the procedure. EVERY TIME there was the same problem. Every time the new IP address was transparent as far as reverse look-up software was concerned and it identified my isp.

Thus eBay will easily be able find your real IP address by using some sophisticated reverse software.

Whether they go to that length all the time is not known. But maybe they do when there is excess computing power available, like at quiet times.

Modee · 10-15-2008, 12:45 PM

Dial Up AOL is the only form of AOL "proxy" I recommend. People are getting busted right and left using AOL bring your own access proxy, and maybe this is why.

laslunas · 10-15-2008, 05:31 PM

I am also trying to run throug AOL version 7.0. Can someone tell me what my IP address is with this post? Are the first two numbers 63.?

laslunas · 10-15-2008, 05:32 PM

and now my IP address in this post not using AOL?

GreenBean · 10-15-2008, 05:39 PM

laslunas:
in your first post start no* is 205
in your second post start no* is 63

laslunas · 10-15-2008, 05:45 PM

so that mean I am good to go using AOL? Ebay & Paypal do not like my 63 IP address!

Modee · 10-20-2008, 03:24 PM

My latest research shows that the reason AOL will not work for EBAY, Google Checkout, and others, even if the WhatIsMyIPAddress.com type sites show you at a completely different IP address, is that sites can blow right through that proxy AOL IP to your real originating IP address.

I can't post details of this in public, very sensitive information, but I am now understanding how and why proxies, VPN, TOR, etc. do not work. Also consider the post above about "reverse lookup" that may be another factor.

More here:
PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP

08-20-2008, 10:54 PM	#28 (permalink)
NowWhat eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tucson/Mexico Posts: 98 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 36%	Modee: is there a way to check? Modee said: "Seems like it sometimes did not work in the first place. People were checking their IP address with What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more... and the like, and thinking they were okay, when sometimes their ISP's WAN IP address was flowing through to EBAY and getting them busted." So, is there any way for us to get a correct check on our IP, other than asking you what is coming through at your end? Thanks, Modee

09-05-2008, 09:22 PM	#31 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	IP on post #29 is 205.188.XXX.XX On #30 71.158.XXX.XXX So it would seem that proxy is WORKING for you. Can you let us know more about what exactly you are doing in each case? I mean the browser you are using has nothing much to do with it. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly.

09-05-2008, 11:17 PM	#32 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 71%	Obviously I do nothing different when using IE. As for AOL I have an email account and have downloaded the AOL browser. If I access the web using the Aol browser it does nothing to change the IP address. In order for it to work you have to actually sign in to AOL and I do so by checking my email by using the AOL icon on the top of the browser. This will then log you in using your AOL ID and password. You will then be accessing the web via the AOL proxy. I ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS verify my IP address through one of the site listed here in the forums to make sure that I am accessing everything through the AOL proxy and not my regular IP. Last edited by DogFacedBoy; 09-05-2008 at 11:50 PM.

10-15-2008, 12:13 PM	#34 (permalink)
SheerGold Subscribed Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: UK Posts: 40 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 5% Longevity: 46%	AOL does NOT hide your IP address from eBay. THAT'S NOW PROVEN I did as is advised. Signed into my AOL account. I had cleared cookies, etc before doing so. Yes, for sure I find I have a different IP address. BUT, HERE'S THE CATCH!! That IP address is MERELY a WEAK CLOAK of my real IP address. Simply doing an IP reverse lookup I identified the location of that IP address as EXACTLY the same as my internet provider!! Doing this repeatedly. i.e. logging out. deleting cookies, etc. logging in. repeating the procedure. EVERY TIME there was the same problem. Every time the new IP address was transparent as far as reverse look-up software was concerned and it identified my isp. Thus eBay will easily be able find your real IP address by using some sophisticated reverse software. Whether they go to that length all the time is not known. But maybe they do when there is excess computing power available, like at quiet times. Last edited by SheerGold; 10-15-2008 at 12:25 PM.

10-15-2008, 12:45 PM	#35 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	Dial Up AOL is the only form of AOL "proxy" I recommend. People are getting busted right and left using AOL bring your own access proxy, and maybe this is why. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly.

08-11-2008, 08:44 PM	#21 (permalink)
doughboykilla eBay Specialist iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 426 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 55% Longevity: 58%	i use aol 9.0VR and its free the one i use i dont have a aol account just a aol email thats it

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08-11-2008, 08:49 PM	#22 (permalink)
doughboykilla eBay Specialist iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 426 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 55% Longevity: 58%	ok im posting from IE right now it should have my real ip

08-11-2008, 08:50 PM	#23 (permalink)
doughboykilla eBay Specialist iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 426 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 55% Longevity: 58%	Now im on aol 9.0VR the ip should say 64.12.116.77 which is the aol proxy

08-15-2008, 03:09 PM	#24 (permalink)
becca073 eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 2% Longevity: 47%	I stick with AOL dial up cause I get the different IP address everytime. Too bad the other way doesn't still change your IP cause dial-up is soo slow. But I go with what is safest for me.

08-16-2008, 12:57 AM	#25 (permalink)
Exeneva Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 239 My Mood: Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 32% Longevity: 33%	I've personally had bad experiences with AOL, especially broadband.

08-18-2008, 05:55 PM	#27 (permalink)
becca073 eBay Enthusiast iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 132 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 2% Longevity: 47%	Okay this is very strange..I just went onto AOL dialup and checked my IP address. Its now giving me my regular IP address, no proxy? I just noticed this today. Yesterday I got a proxy.

09-05-2008, 07:51 PM	#29 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 71%	Okay, posting this message via AOL Browser with sign in for an AOL account. It is possible to use the AOL browser without signing in. If you do this you WILL show the same IP address as you IE

09-05-2008, 07:57 PM	#30 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 71%	Now posting via IE. Interesting when I switched from AOL to IE the cookie stayed and I was already signed in. It is always advisable to clear cookies when going from one account to the other even if switching browsers

10-15-2008, 05:31 PM	#36 (permalink)
laslunas eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 11 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 0% Longevity: 7%	I am also trying to run throug AOL version 7.0. Can someone tell me what my IP address is with this post? Are the first two numbers 63.?

10-15-2008, 05:32 PM	#37 (permalink)
laslunas eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 11 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 0% Longevity: 7%	and now my IP address in this post not using AOL?

10-15-2008, 05:39 PM	#38 (permalink)
GreenBean eBay Authority iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: HADES Posts: 1,868 Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 10 Posts Activity: 54% Longevity: 67%	laslunas: in your first post start no* is 205 in your second post start no* is 63 __________________ Rien De Crainte

10-15-2008, 05:45 PM	#39 (permalink)
laslunas eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: California, USA Posts: 11 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 0% Longevity: 7%	so that mean I am good to go using AOL? Ebay & Paypal do not like my 63 IP address!

10-20-2008, 03:24 PM	#40 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	My latest research shows that the reason AOL will not work for EBAY, Google Checkout, and others, even if the WhatIsMyIPAddress.com type sites show you at a completely different IP address, is that sites can blow right through that proxy AOL IP to your real originating IP address. I can't post details of this in public, very sensitive information, but I am now understanding how and why proxies, VPN, TOR, etc. do not work. Also consider the post above about "reverse lookup" that may be another factor. More here: PROXY servers (proxies) and VPN , TOR - Hiding your IP __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 10-28-2008 at 12:26 PM.