AOL proxy - does your WAN IP address change for EBAY purposes? Not necessarily

DogFacedBoy · 07-31-2008, 04:30 PM

Was installing some new software and computer re-booted as a result. I went to go log into AOL so I could access my ebay account (I have been doing it this way successfully for eight months now) I go to check my IP in AOL and it comes up the same as my regular DSL.

I've shut down and restarted it like 3 or 4 times and the same results each time. Could it be that AOL has quit using a proxy?

I'm afraid to sign in any other way right now, I have like 70 FBs at 100% and I'm afraid to raise any red flags.

Just tried again and finally got AOL to sign on with the proxy. Anyone have any ideas of why it would take 4 or 5 tries? I used IP Burger and other IP sites and they all gave my regular ISP DSL IP. BTW I was actually logged in because I could compose new email, etc. This just has me a little confused this time

**aspkin** · 07-31-2008, 05:06 PM

Unknown DogFacedBoy, other users have reported something similar happening to them, but they eventually figured it out over a few tries. AOL has a history of 'sucking'.

doughboykilla · 07-31-2008, 09:47 PM

I just check my aol and it gives me a porxy

Modee · 08-02-2008, 01:08 PM

Editor's Note: READ this thread all the way through. Our latest research shows that the ONLY form of AOL that appears to protect your identity is AOL dial up. All other forms of AOL proxy may be transmitting your true IP address right on through.

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Switch to dial up AOL. The other one (back door, using your own broadband) doesn't always switch IP anymore, and it may even transmit your true IP address right on through.

trig · 08-02-2008, 03:48 PM

whats the problem with not using dial up?
has anyone gotten in trouble using the normal broadband?
seems to me like thousands of ebay users nationwide are using aol and broadband.

Modee · 08-02-2008, 11:53 PM

There is no issue with using AOL backdoor access, it's just that for people who want to switch their IP address, this does not happen. You usually maintain the same IP address as you would without the AOL.

Why? Simple - because you are using your own ISP for access. And because it is a FREE AOL product. The free AOL back door access does not always change your IP address.

adl0816 · 08-09-2008, 07:24 PM

I've tried using the AOL browser as a proxy. Everytime before I go on eBay I check my IP address with IPBurger and it shows up as something different. But when I make changes to my eBay account (such as changing the password,) eBay recognizes my original home IP address instead of the proxy one. Am I compromised?

ebayhateluv · 08-09-2008, 11:22 PM

HI:
I use aol all the time..
first-- I clear cookies, using cookie cleaner, then i clean in explorer,
then when aol opens, go to security/options, clear tracks..

adl0816 · 08-10-2008, 12:07 AM

Yeah I clear my Firefox private data, run CCleaner, and use Objective to clear my flash cookies. Then I log into AOL 9.1 and check my IP address with IPBurger before I proceed to logging into my eBay/PayPal accounts. Am I doing something wrong or using the wrong AOL browser?

Modee · 08-10-2008, 04:25 AM

Is this the form of AOL where you use your own ISP (forget it - provides uncertain protection for EBAY purposes), or AOl dial up or AOL-ISP.

Lyda · 08-10-2008, 09:01 AM

I have broadband and an AOL icon 9.0 already installed on my computer, so I opened new Aol email and signed into AOL as guest. Checked IP, always the same. I think that free AOL service does not work for changing the IPs. I believe I need to sign up for it at 9.95 a month via my cable service. I don't mind signing up if this will guarantee a new IP every time I use it. Does anyone know if that's the case?

victorrocks · 08-10-2008, 09:34 AM

I have an aol paid account, after getting the "abusing ebay policy" for using "hidemyip2008" that appears to be the proxy server that got me shut down, i decided to just use the aol browser. The only thing i noted was it was asking me to accept cookies in IE, which i have done but i do delete before and after every visit to ebay. I check my IP and it is different everytime.

I hope this keeps me on ebay for a while longer than 48 hours the last time round.

Modee · 08-10-2008, 03:52 PM

It really has nothing to do with whether you paid for the AOL or not. If you use AOL dial up or AOL as your actual ISP, your IP address will change.

If you simply use AOL as access for content while using your own ISP, your IP address will not necessarily change for EBAY purposes. This has been verified with a test we conducted on the forum today. A person who is using Verizon as his ISP logged into his AOL proxy. Even though his checking of IP address at his end with his AOL browser
What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more...
showed some new IP address, when he posted here on the forum the only WAN IP address that showed was his flow through one with Verizon.

adl0816 · 08-10-2008, 08:00 PM

So does that mean using AOL proxy is a dead end?

Modee · 08-11-2008, 05:11 PM

Seems like it sometimes did not work in the first place. People were checking their IP address with
What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more...
and the like, and thinking they were okay, when sometimes their ISP's WAN IP address was flowing through to EBAY and getting them busted.

adl0816 · 08-11-2008, 07:19 PM

Well I was able to change my home IP address using the old "unplug your modem and leave overnight" trick. Now I can finally get back on eBay without having to worry.

doughboykilla · 08-11-2008, 07:38 PM

im useing aol right now what is the ip posted?

dose it start with 70.178? if so then thats my home ip but if not then its a proxy

Modee · 08-11-2008, 07:53 PM

The proxy is working for you. Tell us please what form of AOL you are using, what plan, and so on. When we did this test for someone else yesterday, it did not work for him!

Lyda · 08-11-2008, 08:35 PM

Well, as it seems not to be certain, I may just subscribe to AOL broadband for 9.95 a month and see if it works for me or not. If I have to use dial up to initiate new IP, than I have to first sign up for land line, right? I have 2 cell phones, one from work and 1 my own,private. I did just fine without land line for almost 3 years now...

Lyda · 08-11-2008, 08:38 PM

Anyone else subscribed to AOL broadband and gets a new IP every time using it? Thanks..

07-31-2008, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
DogFacedBoy eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 741 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 71%	AOL proxy - does your WAN IP address change for EBAY purposes? Not necessarily Was installing some new software and computer re-booted as a result. I went to go log into AOL so I could access my ebay account (I have been doing it this way successfully for eight months now) I go to check my IP in AOL and it comes up the same as my regular DSL. I've shut down and restarted it like 3 or 4 times and the same results each time. Could it be that AOL has quit using a proxy? I'm afraid to sign in any other way right now, I have like 70 FBs at 100% and I'm afraid to raise any red flags. Just tried again and finally got AOL to sign on with the proxy. Anyone have any ideas of why it would take 4 or 5 tries? I used IP Burger and other IP sites and they all gave my regular ISP DSL IP. BTW I was actually logged in because I could compose new email, etc. This just has me a little confused this time Last edited by DogFacedBoy; 07-31-2008 at 04:47 PM.

07-31-2008, 05:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
aspkin Administrator iTrader: (4) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 4,009 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Activity: 81% Longevity: 100%	Unknown DogFacedBoy, other users have reported something similar happening to them, but they eventually figured it out over a few tries. AOL has a history of 'sucking'. __________________ Join the eBay Suspension Forums. Subscribe today! EBay Stealth - Get all the details for a stealthy eBay account! A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. — Einstein.

08-02-2008, 01:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	Editor's Note: READ this thread all the way through. Our latest research shows that the ONLY form of AOL that appears to protect your identity is AOL dial up. All other forms of AOL proxy may be transmitting your true IP address right on through. --- Switch to dial up AOL. The other one (back door, using your own broadband) doesn't always switch IP anymore, and it may even transmit your true IP address right on through. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 11-15-2008 at 04:48 PM.

08-02-2008, 11:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	There is no issue with using AOL backdoor access, it's just that for people who want to switch their IP address, this does not happen. You usually maintain the same IP address as you would without the AOL. Why? Simple - because you are using your own ISP for access. And because it is a FREE AOL product. The free AOL back door access does not always change your IP address. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 08-16-2008 at 01:05 AM.

08-09-2008, 07:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
adl0816 Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 25%	Using AOL Proxy I've tried using the AOL browser as a proxy. Everytime before I go on eBay I check my IP address with IPBurger and it shows up as something different. But when I make changes to my eBay account (such as changing the password,) eBay recognizes my original home IP address instead of the proxy one. Am I compromised?

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07-31-2008, 09:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
doughboykilla eBay Specialist iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 426 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 55% Longevity: 58%	I just check my aol and it gives me a porxy

08-02-2008, 03:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
trig Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 137 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 4% Longevity: 23%	whats the problem with not using dial up? has anyone gotten in trouble using the normal broadband? seems to me like thousands of ebay users nationwide are using aol and broadband.

08-09-2008, 11:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
ebayhateluv eBay Authority iTrader: (7) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Land of the Free, Home of the Brave Posts: 2,508 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 3% Longevity: 61%	HI: I use aol all the time.. first-- I clear cookies, using cookie cleaner, then i clean in explorer, then when aol opens, go to security/options, clear tracks.. __________________ *Always.. Be the BEST you can Be, at Whatever you do! Be Part of the Solution, rather than Part of the Problem.*

08-10-2008, 12:07 AM	#9 (permalink)
adl0816 Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 25%	Yeah I clear my Firefox private data, run CCleaner, and use Objective to clear my flash cookies. Then I log into AOL 9.1 and check my IP address with IPBurger before I proceed to logging into my eBay/PayPal accounts. Am I doing something wrong or using the wrong AOL browser? Last edited by Modee; 08-10-2008 at 04:24 AM.

08-10-2008, 04:25 AM	#10 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	Is this the form of AOL where you use your own ISP (forget it - provides uncertain protection for EBAY purposes), or AOl dial up or AOL-ISP. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 08-11-2008 at 08:09 PM.

08-10-2008, 09:01 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lyda eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 10% Longevity: 21%	I have broadband and an AOL icon 9.0 already installed on my computer, so I opened new Aol email and signed into AOL as guest. Checked IP, always the same. I think that free AOL service does not work for changing the IPs. I believe I need to sign up for it at 9.95 a month via my cable service. I don't mind signing up if this will guarantee a new IP every time I use it. Does anyone know if that's the case?

08-10-2008, 09:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
victorrocks eBay Newbie iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 17%	I have an aol paid account, after getting the "abusing ebay policy" for using "hidemyip2008" that appears to be the proxy server that got me shut down, i decided to just use the aol browser. The only thing i noted was it was asking me to accept cookies in IE, which i have done but i do delete before and after every visit to ebay. I check my IP and it is different everytime. I hope this keeps me on ebay for a while longer than 48 hours the last time round.

08-10-2008, 03:52 PM	#13 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	It really has nothing to do with whether you paid for the AOL or not. If you use AOL dial up or AOL as your actual ISP, your IP address will change. If you simply use AOL as access for content while using your own ISP, your IP address will not necessarily change for EBAY purposes. This has been verified with a test we conducted on the forum today. A person who is using Verizon as his ISP logged into his AOL proxy. Even though his checking of IP address at his end with his AOL browser What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more... showed some new IP address, when he posted here on the forum the only WAN IP address that showed was his flow through one with Verizon. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 08-11-2008 at 07:55 PM.

08-10-2008, 08:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
adl0816 Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 25%	So does that mean using AOL proxy is a dead end?

08-11-2008, 05:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	Seems like it sometimes did not work in the first place. People were checking their IP address with What Is My IP Address? - Lookup IP, Hide IP, Change IP, Trace IP and more... and the like, and thinking they were okay, when sometimes their ISP's WAN IP address was flowing through to EBAY and getting them busted. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 08-11-2008 at 07:54 PM.

08-11-2008, 07:19 PM	#16 (permalink)
adl0816 Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 25%	Well I was able to change my home IP address using the old "unplug your modem and leave overnight" trick. Now I can finally get back on eBay without having to worry.

08-11-2008, 07:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
doughboykilla eBay Specialist iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 426 My Mood: Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 55% Longevity: 58%	im useing aol right now what is the ip posted? dose it start with 70.178? if so then thats my home ip but if not then its a proxy

08-11-2008, 07:53 PM	#18 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (67) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,898 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts Activity: 95% Longevity: 99%	The proxy is working for you. Tell us please what form of AOL you are using, what plan, and so on. When we did this test for someone else yesterday, it did not work for him! __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly.

08-11-2008, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
Lyda eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 10% Longevity: 21%	Well, as it seems not to be certain, I may just subscribe to AOL broadband for 9.95 a month and see if it works for me or not. If I have to use dial up to initiate new IP, than I have to first sign up for land line, right? I have 2 cell phones, one from work and 1 my own,private. I did just fine without land line for almost 3 years now...

08-11-2008, 08:38 PM	#20 (permalink)
Lyda eBay Newbie iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 10% Longevity: 21%	Anyone else subscribed to AOL broadband and gets a new IP every time using it? Thanks..