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Default Trying to make sure I do everything correct. Advice?

So thus far I have a decent plan of action so far.

First I am going to buy a mailbox for business at the UPS store, so that is gonna be 300$ for 6 months.

Then I will be forming an LLC, maybe an SP through legalzoom, I am figuring that I will use the location that is on the mailbox for where legalzoom will send the info to. Please advise if that is wrong.

As for the IP issues, I have a couple of ideas when it comes to this, first of all I will be buying a new computer possibly, and buy a router that I can install dd-wrt on, and then probably pay for a proxy that I will input on the router opposed to running it on the computer. I had my router that I currently have off for a bit so I could get a new IP, and only signed in with my buyer account.

The other option would be to to just buy a vps, through I am not sure how well that will work out.

How does my plan of action look to you guys so far?

In the event that I get linked for any reason what would I do? Form an entirely new business? What would I do with the other one? Can you have multiple EINs?
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Wow, 6 months mailbox for $300??????
I got my for $36 for a whole year at the post office
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Mines at the ups store doesnt cost that much.
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As it was suggested to me by experienced forum members, I wouldn't open the LLC just yet. Just open the account and then add the EIN # after it is required which is 50 sales, I think. This way you can have the account open today. Also, you can get the EIN # from IRS for Free without having the LLC opened. But, you would eventually need to open the LLC afterwards but this buys you time. As far as multiple EIN's yes it is possible but you'll need a new LLC for each. Good luck
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Oh also, I just opened my amazon account and used a stealth address and name. I just made up a name and chose a hotel address that is a few blocks from my house. Since I'm planning on doing FBA with Amazon anyways, I thought I wouldn't need an actual return address.
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Default Re: Trying to make sure I do everything correct. Advice?

Also you should never use a proxy, get a VPN or VPS from a reliable company

and you dont need a new computer can just make a new user account or use vmware
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Mines at the ups store doesnt cost that much.
Thats probably because you didnt tell them it was for a business and are using just a normal box
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Also you should never use a proxy, get a VPN or VPS from a reliable company

and you dont need a new computer can just make a new user account or use vmware
A new user account doesnt sound like it would be too safe, I am just trying to get this right the first time so that I dont screw up and have to make another account. I may consider a vm but in the same token a vm with a VPN sounds like it would be slow as all hell, do many people do that and it works out?
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Oh also, I just opened my amazon account and used a stealth address and name. I just made up a name and chose a hotel address that is a few blocks from my house. Since I'm planning on doing FBA with Amazon anyways, I thought I wouldn't need an actual return address.
That sounds like a fine solution for something short term, but I am trying to go for long term.
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A new user account doesnt sound like it would be too safe, I am just trying to get this right the first time so that I dont screw up and have to make another account. I may consider a vm but in the same token a vm with a VPN sounds like it would be slow as all hell, do many people do that and it works out?
New user account is very safe tons of people do that, and no as long as your computer is decent a VM with a VPN should be about the same speed as when operating normally. I dont notice any deterioration in speed while using VM with VPN
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New user account is very safe tons of people do that, and no as long as your computer is decent a VM with a VPN should be about the same speed as when operating normally. I dont notice any deterioration in speed while using VM with VPN
So okay we have that addressed that part, as for the other parts of this, do you have an suggestions?
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Is there anyone else knowledgeable about this?
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First I am going to buy a mailbox for business at the UPS store, so that is gonna be 300$ for 6 months.
Waste of $300. Buy an account from the forum and save the cash. It would be better spent. I use a regular PO Box that runs me $40 every 6 months, and my accounts have been going strong for 6 months.

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Then I will be forming an LLC, maybe an SP through legalzoom, I am figuring that I will use the location that is on the mailbox for where legalzoom will send the info to. Please advise if that is wrong.
Unnecessary.

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As for the IP issues, I have a couple of ideas when it comes to this, first of all I will be buying a new computer possibly, and buy a router that I can install dd-wrt on, and then probably pay for a proxy that I will input on the router opposed to running it on the computer. I had my router that I currently have off for a bit so I could get a new IP, and only signed in with my buyer account.
Did you just inherit a mansion or something? Why are you intent on wasting all this money? VMWare or User Accounts work just fine.....new IP can be accessed by changing your MAC address....or you can just tether with your phone, or buy a MiFi...

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The other option would be to to just buy a vps, through I am not sure how well that will work out.
Works just fine. I bought one from Jeff Weico (of this forum) works great.

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How does my plan of action look to you guys so far?
Looks like a rich man wants to blow a lot of money.

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In the event that I get linked for any reason what would I do? Form an entirely new business? What would I do with the other one? Can you have multiple EINs?
First, you don't spend a bunch of cash on a brand new account. Only invest in an LLC etc once you start coming close to your tax threshold (20,000 and 200 sales in one calendar year). Until that time, you're just spinning your tires.

Yes, you can create one new EIN per day online via irs.gov
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Waste of $300. Buy an account from the forum and save the cash. It would be better spent. I use a regular PO Box that runs me $40 every 6 months, and my accounts have been going strong for 6 months.



Unnecessary.



Did you just inherit a mansion or something? Why are you intent on wasting all this money? VMWare or User Accounts work just fine.....new IP can be accessed by changing your MAC address....or you can just tether with your phone, or buy a MiFi...



Works just fine. I bought one from Jeff Weico (of this forum) works great.



Looks like a rich man wants to blow a lot of money.



First, you don't spend a bunch of cash on a brand new account. Only invest in an LLC etc once you start coming close to your tax threshold (20,000 and 200 sales in one calendar year). Until that time, you're just spinning your tires.

Yes, you can create one new EIN per day online via irs.gov
I am trying to do this without having to go through the process of screwing up anything at all.

The 300 was for the fact that in the guide it says to NOT use a mailbox that has a P.O box number, the 300 is for a business private mailbox, so are you meaning to tell me that you are just using regular old p.o boxes that aren't for business?

Its not about "wasting money" its just about me trying to get this **** done right. Not wasting time figuring things out, having linked accounts and such, I am just trying to build a stable account where things wont get screwed up. I am not interested in making a bunch of throw away accounts.

As for the new IP ive decided to go with a dedicated vpn with a new user account, as people have said that works.

I dont know how it would work buying an account from the forum for a mailbox, I do not know what that person may have done with it and such. Not to mention if I actually received mail, it kinda defeats the purpose if the place isnt really close to me.

The forming of the business is more or less for the resale certificate, cant really buy from the places I want to buy from if I do not have one.

If you have an idea of how to do this without screwing it up my ears are open. I hope I didnt sound to aggressive in my reply. I am just taking getting this started very seriously.
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I am trying to do this without having to go through the process of screwing up anything at all.
That's a good mindset!
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The 300 was for the fact that in the guide it says to NOT use a mailbox that has a P.O box number, the 300 is for a business private mailbox, so are you meaning to tell me that you are just using regular old p.o boxes that aren't for business?
My local PO lets me use the street address. The address looks like this:

123 Main Street
Suite 45
Anytown, USA,
67890

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Its not about "wasting money" its just about me trying to get this **** done right. Not wasting time figuring things out, having linked accounts and such, I am just trying to build a stable account where things wont get screwed up. I am not interested in making a bunch of throw away accounts.
Did I suggest you "make a bunch of throw away accounts"?

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As for the new IP ive decided to go with a dedicated vpn with a new user account, as people have said that works.
Good call.

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I dont know how it would work buying an account from the forum for a mailbox, I do not know what that person may have done with it and such. Not to mention if I actually received mail, it kinda defeats the purpose if the place isnt really close to me.
Was not referring to purchasing a mailbox, my suggestion was simply to avoid throwing money out the window, you'd be better of buying a pre-made account.

The address your account is "registered" to is irrelevant.

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The forming of the business is more or less for the resale certificate, cant really buy from the places I want to buy from if I do not have one.
Get incorporated in Delaware or another business friendly state. Your state of residence is irrelevant when filing for a corporation.

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If you have an idea of how to do this without screwing it up my ears are open. I hope I didnt sound to aggressive in my reply. I am just taking getting this started very seriously.
I gave you quite a bit of advice. If you have any specific question, I'm here.
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That's a good mindset!


My local PO lets me use the street address. The address looks like this:

123 Main Street
Suite 45
Anytown, USA,
67890



Did I suggest you "make a bunch of throw away accounts"?



Good call.



Was not referring to purchasing a mailbox, my suggestion was simply to avoid throwing money out the window, you'd be better of buying a pre-made account.

The address your account is "registered" to is irrelevant.



Get incorporated in Delaware or another business friendly state. Your state of residence is irrelevant when filing for a corporation.



I gave you quite a bit of advice. If you have any specific question, I'm here.
Ahh see I was under the impression that all p.o boxes included that in their address. So then you just have the account under the address of the p.o box. So then I am assuming you have the business registered at your home address somewhere else. But then that begs the question of what name you have under the account.

With the info from what we talked about, The plan is looking like new user account, dedicated vpn on user account, would probably use first and last name of business, and use the address of the p.o box, then probably just have the location of the business with legalzoom to be your home address? Or do you just file it wherever, going that route sounds somewhat shady, and sounds like it could cause problems during tax season lol

And my apologies I didnt know you where talking about buying an amazon seller account. I suppose I may consider that in the worst case scenarios. But for me that raises more questions that what it answers.

Once again I am sorry, I probably sound incredibly ignorant and stupid.
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Ahh see I was under the impression that all p.o boxes included that in their address. So then you just have the account under the address of the p.o box. So then I am assuming you have the business registered at your home address somewhere else. But then that begs the question of what name you have under the account.

With the info from what we talked about, The plan is looking like new user account, dedicated vpn on user account, would probably use first and last name of business, and use the address of the p.o box, then probably just have the location of the business with legalzoom to be your home address? Or do you just file it wherever, going that route sounds somewhat shady, and sounds like it could cause problems during tax season lol

And my apologies I didnt know you where talking about buying an amazon seller account. I suppose I may consider that in the worst case scenarios. But for me that raises more questions that what it answers.

Once again I am sorry, I probably sound incredibly ignorant and stupid.
You can register your account under Mary Jane or Santa Claus....in the USA, Amazon doesn't verify any of this info. (Note: I don't recommend testing this regardless, just in case...)

Address is the same...the only way it matters is for returns. If you use a shipping manager application (I like Teaplixx) you can use whatever address you want, and your real address will be on the return section of the label, and only you and the buyer will know.
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You can register your account under Mary Jane or Santa Claus....in the USA, Amazon doesn't verify any of this info. (Note: I don't recommend testing this regardless, just in case...)

Address is the same...the only way it matters is for returns. If you use a shipping manager application (I like Teaplixx) you can use whatever address you want, and your real address will be on the return section of the label, and only you and the buyer will know.
That sounds a bit odd, I would figure they would check this information and cross reference it for the payment info, you know the cc number and such. I guess in this case it would just be looking at the EIN number and not see a reason to do anything further.

So, and feel free to criticize this the newer plan looks like

>New user
>24c Dedicated IP
>P.O box, hopefully with address
>Use p.o box address with amazon
>Create EIN for use with amazon
>Legal Zoom for the business(for mostly the resale license figure since I am using the p.o box with amazon then I can use my real adress with legal zoom)
>Username as business name with amazon
>Create small business bank account for use for payment/ debit card to attach to account

Am I forgetting anything? Anything else you would add? I also believe I should wait 30 days before I start going hard so my account can pass verification. Additionally I am wondering what I should put for my bank info, would it create problems if the billing location and such didnt match the general info on my account?
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@Kenji, what's your phone number provider that you decided to use?
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@Kenji, what's your phone number provider that you decided to use?
I completely forgot about that. I suppose if I needed it I can use google voice, but then I also have a spare freedom pop phone that could work.
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Would using a vcc, and vba work for the verification? Then I could add my info later on?
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Would using a vcc, and vba work for the verification? Then I could add my info later on?
Just use a real debit card and a real bank account. Don't over-complicate it. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid!
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